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mircea_popescu: all this because they really wanted to be as cool as the euros and didn't comprehend that faking it till you make it just gives you saturnism
mircea_popescu: and lest you think such a thing is "impossible" : ustards ate off lead plates for many years, and even blamed tomatoes for hallucinated poisonousness.
mircea_popescu: except if everyone had plutonium induced braindamage from the fashion of eating plutonium pills
mircea_popescu: even if he may or may not believe any particular building is the result of some people who did some calculations in private for money.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't believe, eg, math, is "something created at mit"
mircea_popescu: i kinda wonder if naggum had lived to see b-a, whethger it'd have been passionate love or some sort of weird hate thing.
mircea_popescu: that may well be so. "with dirty hands no clean pages will be written".
mircea_popescu: we had a few threads about this. i suppose it's still an open q.
mircea_popescu: that the concept is poorly implemented is a separable and in fact separate problem from that the concept is broken
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the sufficient and necessary concrete is readily available and of an abstract kind. i needn't any actual calcium carbonate to say various things about various bits of code.
mircea_popescu: currently our substance is drawn specifically from the fact that for the past 2-3 decades, these twerps approached the problem of functionality ("the software doesn't do enough") with nary a clue about the problem of feedback ("the software does too much")
mircea_popescu: how so. how the fuck are you EVER going to sign off on any code when it is not possible to say what function call will never do ?
mircea_popescu: what he's talking about it is fractal they shall be delivered thing
mircea_popescu: the principal specification of any machine, not JUST computers, not just software stacks, not just lines of code, is to specify what it can never do.
mircea_popescu: i do not WISH to run an "open" which may acquire unspecified powers in the future if the caller rubs its belly just right.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the "solution" he contemplates is of the level of "because inept us-style corporatism displays all the sechelae you'd expect if you got a bunch of farmers to say how cars should look, let's everyone run in traffic!"
mircea_popescu: he is correct in that foss is mostly a problem unto itself, making the previous situation worse rather than better.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record this " the reason that source access is needed is the same as the cause of the problem: the inability to modify system behavior non-intrusively. if one could modify OPEN on any given system to acquire new behavior _without_ compiling a new OPEN or, even if you did, without re-linking the entire system (thus the need for dynamic linking and similar solutions, too), source code access would
mircea_popescu: sounds like perhaps an actual buffer hole or something.
mircea_popescu is not terribly fond of hot springs, for some reason they attract old folks.
mircea_popescu: i would suspect as far as alf is concerned, javascript is cpp.
mircea_popescu: moreover, it's marked for replacement. just, iffy thing to replace, the crypto lib.
mircea_popescu: Jacmet tmsr doth not believe in upgrades. on the contrary, the versions here count towards 0.
mircea_popescu: Jacmet give a looksee at how buildroot is currently used
mircea_popescu: x.org just recently lost their only asset because of inept "non profit" shenanigans.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: pick a strong leader in the form of a person, build your thing atop pgp sigs and forget the nonsense fiat.
mircea_popescu: that's a horrible idea if the wya such things work out in practice is any guide.
mircea_popescu: so get that sane key made, reg it and sign an address, i'll send you a coin.
mircea_popescu: and in unrelated news, do you take bitcoin donations Jacmet ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where was the line/dpaste ? dja recall ?
mircea_popescu: make a 4kb key and use it rather than the strange md5 lists or what's that.
mircea_popescu: that would be the one problem - the thing is a very valuable security asset, should be better protected.
mircea_popescu: and buildroot with musl prevented us from bathing in the same humiliation EVERYONE else ended up in with the recent gethostbyaddr thing
mircea_popescu: we are : it's become the replacement harness for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i mean to convey my surprise and giddy excitement as to how it's not wrong.
mircea_popescu: is it supposed to say "stolen plutonium dick" ? possibly only better thing.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "i want a whaleoctopusdeerkitten" because you dunno how to say girlfriend
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now stop calling it "tc" and confusing people. concept needs a new name.
mircea_popescu: "arbitrary text transformations" but only between these two sets we carefully curated.
mircea_popescu: jurov> someone inewitably will try it anyway. and i wish to see your face upon seeing vpatch with embedded cpptron <<< abhahaha win
mircea_popescu: he's bound to run into a shitton of resistance of the medium in short order with that thing.
mircea_popescu: which is why one'd expect a lot more alma matering of stuff like polarbeard's.
mircea_popescu: which is what the first pass of this convo actually exactly was, iirc.
mircea_popescu: ok, you know, say that! "i want a homoiconic thing with lambda", rather than "tc"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what other than regexp do you hate in awk ? and being gnucpp, of course.\
mircea_popescu: in this sense cunt is turing complete, it can express all proteins.