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http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799861 <-- I dun fully grasp this, so bear with me for a moment. suppose the following (imho no-nonsense) thought experiment: say we have an os, NOP-OS, that works as follows: after initialization, the os loads a (user-provided) program P; the NOP-OS interface exposes to P exactly one system call, "no-op", which does nothing and returns. is then NOP-OS a general-purpose OS? say we add another system
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mircea_popescu: douchebag, somewhat suspicious, as it told me "
<deedbot> mircea_popescu paid Melissalmao 0.02". is their key no good or something ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to the 2nd fold of the error : the NOTION of translation is pernicious, and stuff like the protestant lulz of "church of self-esteem" or "we choose to emphasize
<bla>" are not unbound errors.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 21:22 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799029 << anyway, i wouldn't simplify it quite to that point. obviously there's a pull and there's a push way to make money, and if i propose to some guy, "do x, get y" it's my push not his pull, and obviously if he wants to pull instead of waiting to b pushed aroundhe gotta do pull-y sorta things. but anyways.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 14:45 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799724 << this is the equivalent of "designing" a caveroom. tell you what : if your approach is substractive, no systems engineering took place. the guy hacking a motorcycle out of two broken cars isn't an industrialist, he's a scavenger. these are fundamentally, and radically, different things.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799833 <-- but! the a, b examples I gave were *not* in any sense subtractive, read again. and by "eliminate" I mean, the words from vocabulary, unlearn them, throw to trash bin (hence "systematically"!), *not* "take monolith and prod it with toothpick"
☝︎ mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799724 << this is the equivalent of "designing" a caveroom. tell you what : if your approach is substractive, no systems engineering took place. the guy hacking a motorcycle out of two broken cars isn't an industrialist, he's a scavenger. these are fundamentally, and radically, different things.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 21:22 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799029 << anyway, i wouldn't simplify it quite to that point. obviously there's a pull and there's a push way to make money, and if i propose to some guy, "do x, get y" it's my push not his pull, and obviously if he wants to pull instead of waiting to b pushed aroundhe gotta do pull-y sorta things. but anyways.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 21:12 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799018 << the notion that there's such a thing or could be such a thing as "resonable expectation" of pre-existing userland on the basis of os is not unlike young women expecting fucking them means they get to reorganize your bathroom.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799116 <-- no "pre-existing $thing" was contemplated at any point. lemme exemplify: a. you wanna implement bitcoin-node-os and determine that it requires crypto primitives, bitcoin db/fs, text editor for config files and so on up to a set of components C and *nothing else*; b. you audit the system at [a] and find out that idem, all components present in the systems are in C, and if not, then out the
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<ascii_lander> plox to gpggram the coords , i fell asleep before writing'em down and lost. presently off to breakfast, then will look.
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mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799029 << anyway, i wouldn't simplify it quite to that point. obviously there's a pull and there's a push way to make money, and if i propose to some guy, "do x, get y" it's my push not his pull, and obviously if he wants to pull instead of waiting to b pushed aroundhe gotta do pull-y sorta things. but anyways.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 10:06 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798435 <-- not sure it's my place to comment on this, but it sounds a lot like the "academic grant" trap that I've fallen into at some point. consider this: the abstraction of money exists so that humans can attribute economic value to things. on the other side of the problem, "creating valuable things for humanity" or for "no concrete labour obligations" are not economically quantifiable (any value,
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 09:49 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798160 <-- I can definitely see this angle. my point is that by giving up the "general-purpose" pretense altogether, the system designer can qualitatively reduce the implicit trust in code running in the system. so yes,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798161 but moreover, one would not expect to find e.g. a pdf processing library in bitcoin node os, as "bitcoin node" can be specced all the way from
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798435 <-- not sure it's my place to comment on this, but it sounds a lot like the "academic grant" trap that I've fallen into at some point. consider this: the abstraction of money exists so that humans can attribute economic value to things. on the other side of the problem, "creating valuable things for humanity" or for "no concrete labour obligations" are not economically quantifiable (any value,
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