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yang:
I browsed to the website of bitcoin-assets, but there is no explanation what an asset is, can someone clarify it for me ?
BingoBoingo: Is that what
I'm missing on the day 2 tour?
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 05:33:17; ben_vulpes: stahp ascii_lander
i cannot spare the time for learning russian
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:17:25; Citizenfive: Right now, too few users of the WoT know how to use it *properly*, so it's not super important to me at this time. When that changes,
I will use it.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 04:56:33; Citizenfive:
I'd bet on Bitcoin's security (code-wise) over Tor or anything else, just because of that
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 04:02:31; ben_vulpes: Citizenfive:
i've barely scratched the surface of gpg, and otr has no lineage in my wot so
i describe the tools
i'd use were
i to think PFS useful for me
ben_vulpes:
i imagine its to capture more of 'action'
ascii_lander: '
I've liv'd a life of sturt and strife; /
I die by treacherie: / It burns my heart
I must depart, / And not avenged be. / There's some come here tae see me hanged / And some to buy my fiddle. / But before
I do part wi' her /
I'll brak her thro' the middle./ He took the fiddle in both of his hands/ And he broke it o'er a stone./ Says,"There's nae ither hand shall play on thee/ When
I am dead and gone."'
ben_vulpes: stahp ascii_lander
i cannot spare the time for learning russian
☟︎ Citizenfive: hang on,
I'm gen'ing a keypair so
I don't contribute to you fags' carpal tunnel every 30 minutes
ascii_lander: ^ there is a top-octane ru translation of this
i was taught as a boy
ben_vulpes:
i don't even know what opsec means either
ben_vulpes: "Dear God, please don't use Pond for anything real yet.
I've hammered out nearly 20K lines of code that have never been reviewed. Unless you're looking to experiment you should go use something that actually works."
ben_vulpes: give up, surrender to obab, commit seppuku
i suppose
Citizenfive:
I'd bet on Bitcoin's security (code-wise) over Tor or anything else, just because of that
☟︎ Citizenfive: Well those are among the most widely used and studied things in all of cryptoland. Vs. everything else,
i.e. some arbitrary piece of FOSS something. Stuff like Tor is what gives everyone a false sense that everyone is all over everything in FOSSland
ben_vulpes: Windows is currently the most secure mainstream OS.
I mean, we can’t stand _using_ it, but that doesn’t change the facts. The kernel is golden, the userland protections
ben_vulpes: pgp: * Signed message? More like “cryptographic proof that
I wrote this incriminating statement” << myeah
ben_vulpes:
i'm too much of a derp to really grok the implication of the statement, though, having failed all of my tradecraft classes.
ben_vulpes: As
I write this, the prosecution has showed that DPR’s private PGP key was on Ross Ulbricht’s laptop. How’s that strong proof of identity looking now? << funnily, it's more or less common knowledge that they shared the key around
ben_vulpes: heh just as
i was thinking "omg this log"
i stumble across me own lines
mod6:
i'll probably wake up at 9, but cant be sure since
i hvaen't slept in like... 36 hours
mod6: yeah no worries.
i'll get an adapter tomorrow
ben_vulpes: "
i guess
i'll try to sleep with light leaking out from underneath the OHHHHHHH"
mod6:
i nearly unscrewed the bulb.e
mod6: im like waaay to tired to search hard. but
i did actually search 3 times.
ben_vulpes: <Citizenfive> ... whatever system of governance the US has ... isn't a good system << awh but
i love it it's going to burn itself out so much more quickly than other more reasonable alternatives
Citizenfive: then
I expect you will greatly enjoy the illustrations in that slide deck
ben_vulpes: !up Citizenfive anyways, welcome. don't mind me,
i'm just the court clown.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:57] we actually ran out of dock, five miles later. <<
i whet their appetite for you
ben_vulpes: also
i've been drinking with the cult so please forgive
ben_vulpes: "give me six words of an innocent man, and
i will find something in them with which to hang him"
Citizenfive: oh
I don't care if it's _the_ "OTR" but that sort of key architecture is desirable
ben_vulpes: but
i'm bound for the gasenwagen anyways, why bovver
i ask
ben_vulpes: Citizenfive:
i've barely scratched the surface of gpg, and otr has no lineage in my wot so
i describe the tools
i'd use were
i to think PFS useful for me
☟︎ Citizenfive: If we used titles that's what
I'd be, anyway
Citizenfive:
I like PFS by default, and OTR makes that happen in a fairly frictionless way. You are of course welcome to use whatever cryptosuites you feel work best for you.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 23:37:04; Citizenfive:
I'll reconsider joining your super-secret boy band. Maybe. Depends on MP.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 20:27:29; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes but what if
i wanna advertise my pgp version and its implied affiliations ? also, sorry for skipping your scoop mention in the cavirtex article, it just seemed a little tardy to have mentioned it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, more about this tomorro
i guess, it's been a long day. tada.
mircea_popescu: eh in the sense of "
i think
i might have been raped" fits most modern descriptions of rape.
mircea_popescu: Citizenfive
i was just discussing a snipped from the thing he linked
Citizenfive:
I seem to have improperly conveyed the degree of importance
I place on this "word" stuff. It's not particularly important; don't worry about it.
mircea_popescu:
i was kinda rooting for simpleminded psychopath, myself.
Citizenfive: That'd be interesting, as
I don't believe either of those.
mircea_popescu: just because
i do not wish to be part of something this trivial to attack, nor do
i see merit in its continued existence.
mircea_popescu: you can't seriously contemplate a system so easy t oattack.
i will attack it.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:17:25; Citizenfive: Right now, too few users of the WoT know how to use it *properly*, so it's not super important to me at this time. When that changes,
I will use it.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu:
I wonder what was said internally at the SEC about your offer to govern the world of BTC assets?
Citizenfive: The trick is how to discuss democracy, then, when everyone has their own idea of what it means. Or any topic.
I've found most arguments can be traced to the arguers somewhere having slightly different internal definitions for something.
trinque: Citizenfive | What
I'm saying, if
I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. <<
I used to think this; lately
I consider it an autoimmune disorder caused by lifetime immersion in symbolic shit
☟︎☟︎☟︎ Citizenfive: What
I'm saying, if
I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. And as a word, democracy seems to have too many contradictory definitions to be especially useful as a descriptor. If US = democracy, well, that's not good. If Switzerland = democracy, that's a bit better, though the consensus is that beast is a "DIRECT democracy".
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:00:47; trinque: williamdunne:
I think the idea is eventually to have a full stack within the WoT
Citizenfive: anyway
I don't want to get lost into semantics;
I think most here understand whatever system of governance the US has, it manages to masquerade as a democracy, and isn't a good system. Whatever that says about the word is less important to me.
williamdunne: Citizenfive:
I completely agree; but
I will assume they were going with the definition of diluting power to all, something along the lines of direct democracy
williamdunne: Citizenfive:
I'm probably one of the younger people here, and from my experience the biggest complaints are that any sort of discourse from rhetoric is largely discouraged, and you are given almost no freedom as to move outside the syllabus.
Citizenfive: Anyway
I might as well register a key so you can quit voicing me manually.
Citizenfive:
I believe there are few good English-speaking minds; those countries do too thorough a job of taking children with potential and delivering batteries (as in, the Matrix sort) into adulthood. There are few Ender Wiggin minds left by the age of 18.
Citizenfive: mircea_popescu: small world. Extremely so, though
I guess bell curves and the size of the developed physical world explain most of it.
Citizenfive: williamdunne:
I've known of it and lurked periodically over the years. This marks the second time MP has personally invited me, and it'd be rude to not see why, at the least.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: "you're the twitter chick ?" -
I'm assuming this was addressed at you
Citizenfive:
I will consider it the compliment that it is, in this "country", and am grateful for it.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 23:32:14; Citizenfive: Yeah. Seemed to have a specific reason, too.
I don't expect
I'm a regular conversation topic.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu:
I was just pointing out that its quite rare, they can go at their own pace;)
Citizenfive: For politeness and the convenience of the asseteers,
I will register if
I stick around.
Citizenfive: Trinique wins, with bonus points.
I usually use the bit about knowing the name of a bird.
Citizenfive: It automates collecting and remembering-correctly certain things. These actions were previously done in one's own head, usually with less fidelity and in ways that required more effort or energy or whatever. Idk,
I call it automation, but it doesn't really matter.
Citizenfive:
I'm not prepared to type enough to really explain my thinking at the moment
trinque: gossipd as
I understand it readily supports that
Citizenfive:
I guess that, and more critically, amoung its users,
I see too much overreliance on it (which is to say, people who don't fully grip the CAPS&LIMS of it as a tool)
trinque: why in hell would
I communicate with you using something that requires
I create a (for all reasonable measures) permanent identity
trinque: danielpbarron: say, oh
I don't know,
I'm deep within the NSA... and
I want to leak some documents
Citizenfive: Without searching, if he tells me [user X] also uses it properly,
I would probably trust that. All subject to the extent that
I trust MP's intentions and motivations, which is sorta the point of a WoT
trinque: Citizenfive:
I'm asking for my own information, not as part of an implicit debate
Citizenfive: Right now, too few users of the WoT know how to use it *properly*, so it's not super important to me at this time. When that changes,
I will use it.
☟︎☟︎ Citizenfive: The visual breaks down, but
I'm amenable to a solution that uses both pegs in some way.