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mircea_popescu: i'll tell you : he's heard some things, and what i say seems similar. in that sense, guess what ? it is.
diana_coman: myeah; I meant that I don't quite see the basis on which this guy "sees" the similarity; but I'll admit I was being harsh
mircea_popescu: and in #trilema better homes and gardens, today's breakfast idea : cut open aguacate (green plox, not the black jewishabomination), remove seed, replace with thinly sliced blue cheese (aoc, plox, not argentinisms) and balsamic vinegar in some proportion. yum!
mircea_popescu: prior, evidently, to autodafe.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman reference to john bradford quote.
diana_coman: well, at least there's so much more ridicule patiently waiting for him to notice it...
diana_coman: what grace? what think? what...I??? where?!! lol
mircea_popescu: "but for the grace of god, there think i"
mircea_popescu: but why ? he, alex softcheese, a rotten reed just like milord bacon, has thought just like anyone ever thinks.
diana_coman has trouble getting herself to read past the title even, given the...vibes of the whole thing
mircea_popescu: the thinnest of ice on the signification river.
mircea_popescu: in nucet, the argument is that the empirical measure described is reliable until relied upon, at which point it is unreliable immediately and without remainder.
mircea_popescu: fellow identieis me as you know, "scenariul pesedisto-antenist". right ? on the basis of something he's read, or w/e, encountered in his daily lyf.
diana_coman: might; or the EU ...mhm, dunno, peace; or whatever in between; at the other end one... is ahead of it so can see already where the future is
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> orcs are slow. <- from my personal experience this is actually a rather reliable empirical measure of how much someone groks reality as is; the analogy would be as to how far away they are from it, hence how much it takes for the "light" to travel aka them to see it; for some the splendours of Rome are visible only now so they still hold today's Rome to be the greatest thing; others are still seeing the Habsburg
asciilifeform: then you couldn't find the signal about noise floor, lol
mircea_popescu: o yeah ? you should see when asciilifeform is not asciilifeform but female 20 years his junior. WITH TITS!
asciilifeform: asciilifeform confessed to a cabbie that he wants to move, and cabbie looked as if asciilifeform grew a cock on his forehead ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for centuries large open air garbage dumps, yet the call of the blood calls on.
mircea_popescu: you know they're STILL visiting rome ? or venice ?
asciilifeform: sorta why they put the resources into bonsaikittenization
mircea_popescu: you never know what the kids will do. this is the definition.
asciilifeform: what, exactly, they'll do ? 'he'll email you his fist...'
mircea_popescu: the reason it is vehehehery important for the kids to keep being distracted by "technology" aka bimbophones is that ... well... if they ever were to look up from zee angry birds...
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet many times remarked 'they knew, they watched own neighbourhoods turn into darkest africa. but never said anything to me and siblings growing up'
asciilifeform: they knew. they sat on arse.
asciilifeform: this 'sanitization' btw is how they wrecked the cities, why larger part of bmore looks like dresden '45
mircea_popescu: turns out there's a lot of interesting us history "nobody ever knew".
mircea_popescu: the situation where manhattan may well be run by goldman sach's own boss tweed but five points is run by will poole and dontcha forget it is well anathema to the democrat corruption machine.
asciilifeform: this is the exact colonization algo, tho, applied domestically
mircea_popescu: "clean the slums" very specifically means -- an effort by the early pantsuit to remove local autonomy from the poor. yes they'll be just as poor -- the important point is to make sure the landlord is one of us not one of them.
mircea_popescu: ok, well, there was once a place in new york worth going to. meanwhile...
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 15:31 asciilifeform: 'well ~i~! know now that i'm not an acorn. but do THE SQUIRRELS know??????'
asciilifeform: i dun think anyone remembered to tell the slums they've been 'sanitized'
mircea_popescu: but... meanwhile "they sanitized the slums", resulting in social sterility.
mircea_popescu: it did. including for the feminist (ugly tomboyis streetwalker that hates men) and for the woman in tech (pickpocket distracting the mark by playing the whore) and so on.
asciilifeform: another poverty of englisch, it dun have a rich set of names for types of thief ( if it did ? long forgotten ? )
mircea_popescu: ah ok then. basically young gypsy's pons asinorum
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 03:27 mircea_popescu: amusingly -- the chicken stealer (ro gainar, each language that saw them has its own word) is the lowest level of gypsy male qualification. a sort of transient baccalaureat if you will.
asciilifeform was floored by the abundance of free-ranging chickens, of high apparent quality, walking around in timis
mircea_popescu: or the arab approach at that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it works fucking admirably though, compared to the soviet approach...
mircea_popescu: the rest of the "balance sheet", two bit gainarii / trading of stolen phones and classmates' inept sexwork is entirely spurious nonsense bolted on
asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp the middle kingdom's 'feed the enemy until he dies of old age' philosophy, so cannot comment ☟︎
mircea_popescu: actually, that only works because the chinese are playing the role of romanian student's mother, sending over lunchboxes fulla pork and beans without economic counterprestation, accepting self-issued "certificates" in lieu of payment.
asciilifeform: if usg 'borrows' something from me, i dun expect to see it again 'like own ears without mirror', because mother did not drop me as a child
asciilifeform: this only worx because they've dressed ordinary tribute collection as 'borrowing', and ordinary mongol rape as 'lending'
mircea_popescu: the whole "western world" is built on the hope that nope.
asciilifeform: ( approx 'the beautiful thing about debt, is that it WILL be paid' )
mircea_popescu: because if problem they'll change "discharged" with "deferred" and nyah nyah.
mircea_popescu: yes but the pantsuitistan theory is that poverty is an absolute bar to cash repayment and "human rights" are an absolute bar to фуфло repayment and consequently repayment obligation discharged, problem ?!
asciilifeform: seems to me that it is exactly same item.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-25 21:01 asciilifeform: borrowed -> has to be repaid. in cash, or фуфло.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:14 mircea_popescu: the specific item here discussed is an EXACT rehash of say ttp://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/#selection-55.0-57.87 ; which while 5 years old is nevertheless entirely identical ; which is the problem here -- that a specific sort of "mind" keeps making a specific sort of mistake. which is why all the discussions about http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/ and so on and so fo
shinohai: Buttfunex not a corral full of thieves ? Am I in the wrong place?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:08 mircea_popescu: yes futures exist, as a financial derivative. no the millenials' meat isn't worth money "because human rights and democrcy" ; nor has argentina's masfuturo a financiable value.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732302 << speaking of 'mas futuro' , the 'btc in ar' scamola apparently back from the grave, https://archive.is/LUSVz ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this can only come to grief ; and the name of the griefbox is "why is mp so arrogant ; we don't yet know whether it was a scam ; this looks like a serious business because aeron chairs" and other such nonsense amply and insistently documented years ago back when i still vaguely gave a shit about what idiots say and how the idiot brainbox works.
mircea_popescu: ens in the first place) back in 2012.
mircea_popescu: the problem, however, seems to be that your mind is actually regressing to the mean, and you find yourself in 2017 making the type of arguments you'd have readily recognized as an idiot's (not even a scammer's ; some people are too dumb to actually scam in that they have not the intelligence required to create a space between themselves and their victims, so they're just fucking everyone over without mens rea for lack of a m
mircea_popescu: now -- it's fine for you to sorta-kinda keep up with the logs, now and again, and trade off the credit you built historically. nobody gives a shit, per se, people have been failing to keep up and getting shedded off like so much dead skin ever since day 1.
mircea_popescu: the specific item here discussed is an EXACT rehash of say ttp://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/#selection-55.0-57.87 ; which while 5 years old is nevertheless entirely identical ; which is the problem here -- that a specific sort of "mind" keeps making a specific sort of mistake. which is why all the discussions about http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/ and so on and so fo ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes futures exist, as a financial derivative. no the millenials' meat isn't worth money "because human rights and democrcy" ; nor has argentina's masfuturo a financiable value. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "stuff that doesn't exist yet" in the sense of the milking of tomorrow when you own a cow is not "stuff that doesn't exist yet" in the sense of davout's isp that davout neither owns nor will but for 0 reasons feels within himself a swelling indicating that he's just as good as one who does, and therefore in a small manner, as if by contagion, he also will. because he "could". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: davout you're confusing things.
davout: bottom line being, i do think buttfinex is fraudlent, but for different reasons than this particular one
davout: aka promises aren't in themselves fraudulent because they are promises, failure to deliver on the promise is fraudulent
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:11 asciilifeform: davout: no problem with selling items that may or may not exist or have any connection whatsoever to reality ?!
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731791 <<< i missed that, and no i see no problem with that. selling stuff that doesn't exist yet happens all the time in the regular course of business ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 21:23 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732246 << because one day the $item-I-am-excepting will be $no-longer-the-item-I-should-be-excepting?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732274 << not exactly. exception becomes semantically meaningful, then others end up building applications on the meaning, then you're stuck supporting unintended downstreams. ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/macedonia-visual-quesos-de-turrialba-rios-de-costa-rica-el-volcan-irazu-la-tarantula-vial-otras-temas-y-mas/ << Trilema - Macedonia visual : Quesos de Turrialba ; Rios de Costa Rica ; El Volcan Irazu ; La Tarantula Vial ; Otras Temas ; y mas!
mircea_popescu: aw damn i thought logotron gets the utf points whatever
ben_vulpes: yeah i forgot about that
lobbes: And if that is the case, couldn't it be mitigated through not having the exceptions baked into code, but rather in a separate 'exception list' that can be altered easily?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 20:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1731848 << a word to the wise, don't bake exceptions in.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732246 << because one day the $item-I-am-excepting will be $no-longer-the-item-I-should-be-excepting? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 18:36 mircea_popescu: whole fucking point of intelligence is not to miss.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732242 << shit. So it is. Looks like I fail the intelligence test, as per: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732028 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: fwiw su illegals in 1950s all had burst encoders ( punched tape ) , song starts and finishes in few sec. but otoh they did not need to shout across ocean, but only to nearest sovembassy.
asciilifeform: ( how much suffices, is open to question )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 19:46 asciilifeform: another is to mimic a common source of crapola, e.g. defective electric motors.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732153 << ideal is to not use the mw for anything. ☝︎
asciilifeform: logs in , at any rate, from chernogolovka, the su mega-mecca
mircea_popescu: i thought maffs.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 19:43 apeloyee: you will have to deal with multipath . narrow spectrum modes is just pretending problem doesn't exist, they just stop working on destructive interference
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732148 << check it out, he understands radio too. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 19:33 asciilifeform: ^ per asciilifeform's current understanding, thing is untriangulable unless enemy knows the freq keying pattern, or is standing in the near field of your transmitter.
asciilifeform: ( and the infamous kakotoyota could buy the whole orchestra )
asciilifeform: notbad, castle-mircea_popescustein in timis costs not so much moar than what asciilifeform lost on bbet, lol
mircea_popescu: i should travel more often.
mircea_popescu: you'll come to regret them.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 02:46 lobbes: anyways, for the wotpastes specifically, I plan to download and store those myself from the get-go (and NOT route them through archive.is), seeing as those are easily 'flagged' due to the predictable url. To alf's point, even if archive.is stays up, diddling is always a threat. Any bits I can do without it now is +ev imo
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1731848 << a word to the wise, don't bake exceptions in. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 02:41 trinque: archiver process breaks, can fix, restart, keep munching on work queue
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1731843 << yup, it's the correct approach. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 02:31 lobbes: while probably elementary to most here, I just discovered that I can send POST requests with curl. One single line! The simple joys of n00bdom.
asciilifeform: incidentally the spreadspectrumtron popularly attributed to h. lamar ( the hot chix ) was skitale principle but turning ~freq~ knob
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, huh, not that clear in my text, is it; will update; specifically: with 12 iterations probability that M-R falsely returns prime on a non-prime is less than (1/4)^12
apeloyee: i find it worth noting that doppler reappeared immediately after asciilifeform unrated for inactivity << perharps notification in IRC client on mention