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mircea_popescu: might actually be an interesting approach
to
the whole "hash evaluation" problem.
mircea_popescu: in fact,
the return 4; hash is
the ~only hash function about which we can say with certainty
that no inverse exists.
mircea_popescu: apeloyee great hash. always yields 4. unbreakable. what's
the problem ?
apeloyee: return 4;//guaranteed
to be random
mircea_popescu: in fact imo
the "prime hash" is a
textbook example of "worst hash ever".
apeloyee: some primes have many composites before
them and
thus are more likely
mircea_popescu: a hash where output x is y
times more likely
than output z is not a hash. it's a fash.
apeloyee: I didn't claim prime constructer, just an improved method
to generate candidates for miller-rabin
mircea_popescu: we're still not clear on "The needs
this wrench helps". so far very much blender-toilet. "maybe someone somewhere needs
to make
turd batidos"
mircea_popescu: nevertheless,
the correct solution
to
this "quickly, prime
this many bits long" is a n, k
tuple which contains n as
the bitsize and k as
the "oddness". if you want
the n - 396 k = 5 prime you get 2^396- 1229
mircea_popescu: there is no such correspondence.
there's more n
than log n
mircea_popescu: if you want an n bit prime calculate 2^n and substract
the correct small integer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's much faster ways, such as
the 2^x - y method.
mircea_popescu: enlighten me, what does
this wrench perfectly legitimately ever do ?
mircea_popescu: "but mp, rats don't reproduce by eggs" "And why do you have
to
thank for
that ?"
mircea_popescu: there are some primitives you don't wanrt
to keep around,
mircea_popescu: and i just appointed a new crown provider of chocolate. you should see
this
thing, so endearingly evidently hand-made copy of "how a chocolate looks" when hershey makes it...
apeloyee: the amount of computation
that you must do ,<<
the same as for any packet: 1 mod-exp and check padding. >> and bits you must buffer,
to do friend-or-foe, is considerably larger. <<
twice as much. might be acceptable, depending on circumstances.
mircea_popescu: in other domestic
tranquility news, just finished stuffing a mason jar with baked peppers.
they have some FABULOUS kapja peppers here.
jurov: a111: strings are sequences, not lists. cons/car/cdr does not apply,
there's different set of functions for
these
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for exactly asciilifeform 's reason : shorter
this way
apeloyee: of course, must check
that e/=1
mircea_popescu: so your model is, i have your pubkey, and encounter an item signed by
that N, with a specific e
that's included in
the signed
text ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 23:10 asciilifeform: returning
to
the exponent
thing, seems
that mircea_popescu is right, nothing particularly interesting can be done by distributing a pub with e' . ( other
than 'believe me , his e is 3' and
then messages ~to
that pub~ are breakable if padding is broken. but
that' sit . )
apeloyee: I
thought you said modulus _is_
the identity, and here I presume
the modulus is known
mircea_popescu: but a signature signed by a pubexp i didn't have PRIOR
to
the receiving of
the signature is definitionally worthless.
apeloyee: can attach your pubexp in plaintext,
to
the signature
apeloyee: u can use
these
to verify
that purported pub-exp is validly signed
apeloyee: well,
that means
the enemy can drown you even if we kave pub.exps, by simply flooding
apeloyee: I don't see how you can extend
to
this case
apeloyee:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737542 <<
that's just DoS. but, if you have computational capacity, you check
the padding. may also require
that it's signed with my key, with
the pubexp attached if you don't know it.
Thus,
the modulus is in principle sufficient
to _initiate_
the converstaion
☝︎ phf: for example your Symbol_EqualP should just be a pointer comparison, rather
than string comparison. (the whole point of a ~symbol~ over a string is
that it's interned, i.e. same sequence of characters always map
to
the identical Symbol object)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 11:25 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737264 <-- strings are (lisp) lists-of-characters. which, as it is, unfortunately makes parsing and evaluating builtin functions (e.g. cons, car, cdr) a pain in
the ass. can be structured cleanly
though. also,
this makes it not a simple matter of find+replace in shithub scheme.adb.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737529 <<
that doesn't sound right, read and eval are distinct phases, by
the
time you get
to eval you shouldn't be operating with strings when but instead with interned symbols (i.e.
things
that can be eq'd in lisp and pointer equivalent on c machine level)
☝︎☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: In other news, apparently
Tower 4 of
the world
trade center is not actually inside
the world
trade center free zone.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 15:30 asciilifeform:
there was a '90s american film where
there is a scene, where an airplane lands in africa and in fast motion gets stripped for parts, like elephant carcass by hyenas
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 16:54 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I asked him for
the "how do we get a corporation fast" answer. His answer is off
the shelf.
This isn't
the first
time I've heard "bank reference" being bandied aboutwith respect
to opening a corporate account.
davout:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737789 <<< needed
the same when opening a bank account in .mu, reference letter didn't need any particular judgement about whether i'd be able
to meet a financial committment, but just something along
the lines of "had bizns with
this gentleman for X years, didn't leave with unpaid debts, isn't a fucking gypsy"
☝︎ mircea_popescu: "oh
the numbers are wrong". yeah, im sure
they are. and
the
tractors invented, and
the working
the fields with oxen and horses and wives pre 1940 calumny, perhaps. hurr.
mircea_popescu: and he has
the numbers : right here, where we happen
to be, i ~know
the name of
the local lord~, and his numbers : 600
to 2209, he says. and what is
teh retort ?
mircea_popescu: dude has
the audacity
to ask for "a ballet on
the
topic of having finished
the kolohoz-isation". you know ? at least asks
the right fucking questions, even if nobody in audience has
the mettle
to make answer.
mircea_popescu: the 1965 and 1968 items absent, but pars pro
toto
this shall have
to do.
mircea_popescu: im
totally finding
this, motherfucker, im sure i saved copies on
trilema somehwere PRECISELY for
this conversation
mircea_popescu: i read piles of ceausescu
transcripts,
they're all exactly nowhere. 1968 meeting with
the writer's union ? really, NOT EVEN
THAT ? 1965 may 19th "who wants a seat in helicopter" one ? nope ?
mircea_popescu: dude it's incredible how fucking useless
the internet is.
mircea_popescu: humiliation is definitionally "in
the
terms of
the idiot"
mircea_popescu: see,
this is
the problem : selection and education are different.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz
that's what
the mediocre intellect has decided upon.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hung with ~nobody. didn't even fuck around, married a 25yo whore 9-year whore, stuck
to her 50 years.
mircea_popescu: ideally, it's a "hey, check out how your stupidity #1 contradicts your stupidity #2, what do you have
to say for your stupidity
that isn't
throwing a hissy fit ?"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> entirely oral
thinker. << Ah, hung out with
too many Frenchies did he
mircea_popescu: it has
to be "mrs pantsuit, where's your having won
the presidency nao ?" at
the lowest.