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mircea_popescu: now then. the russian bride is a peculiar variant of this scam, where the value transferred is not pecuniary, and thus encounters "troubles".
mircea_popescu: but they all reduce to "more fluff to make it easier for C to swallow the faux identity painted over a difference"
mircea_popescu: so S sends C you a check ; thereby transferring to you the form of some money ; but not their substance. C proceeds to send S a wire, thereby transferring the form and the substance ; C is out some money.
mircea_popescu: not all these dts are exploitable in practice ; but all are exploitable in principle.
mircea_popescu: the way the scam works is that the settlement of substance.money does not in fact coincide with the settlement of form.money. this because there's an absolute thermodynamic taboo against coincidence.
mircea_popescu: the form of money is obvious, in the sense of the taste of food being obvious. it produces expected reactions in the senses.
mircea_popescu: the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let us study this problem together, working on the basis of a 419/russian bride scam.
mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing! you don't fucking top me from the bottom ffs!
mircea_popescu: what's next ? i'm going to show online sub why i should be her master ? am i under the influence of brain parasitosis ?
mircea_popescu: ah, the readers. why do they read there ? they could read here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you perhaps still entertain this delusional hope that man is what he wishes to be / sees self as.
mircea_popescu: and i would estimate absolutely none of the people there should be here.
mircea_popescu: no, it is not. it is popular among a certain brand of castrato. i don't appreciate castrato opera.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that even if you put the effort into bowdlerization, you will not obtain a result better than i do ; because the "formal test" is actually devoid of substance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
mircea_popescu: the best policy is to fucking decide if you're gonna or not gonna ; and then do or not do. doing sorta halfway is painful. even to watch.
mircea_popescu: you know, you can be trained to do this right ; you're intelligent enough. but it's a slog, and it's also a lot like learning to play an instrument.
mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
☟︎ mircea_popescu: all analysis seems to point to the whole substance of that thing being based on a very tooth-and-nail neoprotestant stubbornness of collective action.
mircea_popescu: but what happened to their home island of caspiar ? it fucking sunk ?
mircea_popescu: private banks have been using keys for over a decade you know.
mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f
☟︎ mircea_popescu: he usual crap] ; it doesn't occur to him that while this is true, the expectation that "all the people" are a sort of given, and polyamory must be applied TO them, as they are, warts and all, as opposed to THEM being applied to it, through an extrudation process which substantially changes THEM, as just so happens to be the absolute historical norm both in theory and in practice - but hey, he needn't know this anymore than th
mircea_popescu:
http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9p9/open_thread_february_114_2012/5v6g << i followed this link off the guy's page ; turned out to be exactly as worthless as expected (take the most glaringly obvious point - he protests that polyamory practitioners are rich powerful valuable people [which he can't confront so he has to mangle up in terms of skin color etc, which doesn't make him a racist because rationalism or whatever, t
mircea_popescu: i guess more or less like waking with a headache in a dirty bed with a woman you don't recall meeting.
mircea_popescu: ah, and obviously - fully dedicated to "safety in tor"
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind, what nonsense people can sell themselves on, for lack of friends and anything useful to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's not JUST into lesswrong, wikipedia, bla bla. he's also convinced "darknet" is relevant in general, that a bunch of inept shitheads were "a cryptoanarchist revolution" and, wonder of wonders, that the pill poppers had some sort of impact in bitcoin whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: i almost prefer the vapid floozies. to hear these schmucks " I feel like this post deserves a montage or a slideshow with music. So much reminiscing and joyful sadness. ", makes my skin fucking crawl.
mircea_popescu: i guess a bunch of weirdos have the usg to thank for their wholly delusional belief that child porn is "big business", somehiw.
mircea_popescu: "Pedofunding A crowdfunding site for child pornography, “Pedofunding”, was launched in November 2014. It seemed like possibly the birth of a new black-market business model so I set up a logged-out scrape to archive its beginnings (sans any images), collecting 20 scrapes from 2014-11-13 to 2014-12-02, after which it shut down, apparently having found no traction."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, they're propping him something fierce. fun times.
mircea_popescu: jurov ^ feel free to extract as such and it'll be imported later on.
mircea_popescu: right. so the new standard for a rsa key is (e, N, userstring), and everyone's expected to produce THAT.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so is the logical thing here to just proclaim "rsa key, as per the republic, is a e, N, string tripled" and then, jurov can dump to THAT format and you'll import from that format later ?
mircea_popescu: there wouldn't really be anything to throw in the box for ssl keys tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more's the point : is phuctor happy with a e, n, userstring csv ?
mircea_popescu: even base64(csv of e,N,string) would be better than the current shit.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this really ends up in a discussion of "we need a new format for rsa keys", doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: put the github url or w/e it is instead of the normal comment field
mircea_popescu: jurov we want the key data anyway, you know, so as to publish the pages nicely.
mircea_popescu: that a liar claims something doth not mean it is also worth investigating.
mircea_popescu: can pretty much ignore him from here out, for all the difference his miserable existence will ever make to anyone.
mircea_popescu: really, not worth the effort. the entire thing exists simply to waste your time.
mircea_popescu: he has more lines, 500 bytes worth of primes, and supposedly more factored moduli
mircea_popescu: ie, we have composites, yes, but about 12kb of primes.
mircea_popescu: and he simply does not have enough DATA in that file to account for more than maybe 1/5 or so of the factors phuctor found
mircea_popescu: if you look through the list. 5f0000005f is not distinct from 50000005, even if wc -l will count them each
mircea_popescu: (in fact MOST of his "factors" are that, mirror bs, 19, 35, 65, etc)
mircea_popescu: i took some of the factors we found, converted them to hex, and looked for them in his list. not there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then why doesn't his factor list list the factors ?