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asciilifeform: as is uncle al's www ( also back, was gone for month+ 0
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'reasons' being that 'scams on honest men' do not, as a rule, produce 'free radicals'
mircea_popescu: chief among the list -- the notion that useless 20something dicklet is ever going to repay six figure debts, as if he's some kind of fucking aeroplane or something.
asciilifeform: ( why shouldn't it ? same logic as 'give EVERYONE PHREEMONEYZ' )
mircea_popescu: man can make own vtron as man pleases and thassat.
mircea_popescu: mod6 eh, user can just read the v as god meant, know what it does, etc.
shinohai: Covale` missed the golden opportunity to register as Covfefe
mircea_popescu: Covale so used to come by as what nick then ?
ben_vulpes: Covale: tard alarms should have fired at unqualified use of "blockchain" as a noun
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 17:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm.
mircea_popescu: but as far as single individual is concerned, well, they can forego profits for all sorta reasons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm. ☟︎
shinohai: Sooner is better than later, as mp says .... the reward used to be 10 whole bitcents
asciilifeform: in that it is a resident infection in chump's head. rather than a 'nyahaha, i sold you a cutting board painted as ipad, and i'ma run faster than you can catch'
mircea_popescu: since the chip you discuss could be made out of extant bitcoin miner + yubikey arrangement, they must both be just as linear
mircea_popescu: (formerly known as electrum wallet)
mircea_popescu: yup, as epic as could be had.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 01:23 mircea_popescu: a very strong ideal property of this is given in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-245.1-238.5 ; which is a large part of the problem and also serves as illustration -- who the fuck knew that random whore story from 2014 is actually an expose on generative grammar.
mircea_popescu: just as "will take over bitcoin" as mit's later identical insanities.
asciilifeform: coins as our block height increases. This setup will ensure that interest payments are always available for those that choose to participate in parking their BCI coins.'
asciilifeform: as opposed to , say, the rest of gcc
mircea_popescu: as opposed to which portion of the "gnu ecosystem"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'gcc' fork of gnat isn't even a gnu product in the usual sense. as far as i can tell , it is made lock stock and barrel of the adacore gnat , but with some dr.mengele treatments
asciilifeform: the latter, in so far as i can tell, is ~complete rubbish
mircea_popescu: just as xool.
TomServo: As far as failures go, this one is pretty great: https://archive.is/FueB0 .
mircea_popescu: ave1 there were some complaints/discussion of this, such as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766187 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (yes they have a cvasi-alphabet, but a) it has 500 "letters" or some shit and b) it was invented about at the same time as emacs split)
mircea_popescu: note however the evident egyptian relation : same process, just as small, accompanying feats of reason, and died of old age.
asciilifeform: greek advantage, as far as i can tell, is 'die reasonably young, leave good-looking corpse'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768313 << approx same 'trying to' as tor. it was exactly same type of pkitronic nonsense, and fooled nobody with even basic degree of literacy ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 14:24 mircea_popescu: "James’s encyclopedic knowledge of computer and network security was a key reason why newsrooms were comfortable adopting SecureDrop when it was still seen as something relatively new and unknown." what THE FUCK are we talking about, am i in some kind of reality distortion field ?
mircea_popescu: ie, between approach 1, where 2012 assange'd have told anders perkelev he's a retarded cuck and should be ashamed of himself in fromt of teh HD, ended up ~maybe~ convicted of the swedish equivalent of http://trilema.com/2011/americanii-au-disperata-nevoie-de-un-sut-in-cur/ and told same anders perkelev in 2015ish that a) he's still just as much of a retarded cuck as he was in 2012 and b) meanwhile he's also a retarded cuck wh
BingoBoingo: As far as I can tell, SecureDrop was some sorta pantsuit thing Gawker and a couple other derpedias advertised accepting
mircea_popescu: "James’s encyclopedic knowledge of computer and network security was a key reason why newsrooms were comfortable adopting SecureDrop when it was still seen as something relatively new and unknown." what THE FUCK are we talking about, am i in some kind of reality distortion field ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as it must. but god DAYUM!
mircea_popescu: there was a time (not so long ago!) when EVERY mark was known by ~everyone ; and not knowing one was perceived as a subjective lack not as an objective deffect ; and the whole shebang paid well. today i couldn't even order more of "his stuff" if i wanted to, putting in question the very possibility of "his" in "his stuff" and moreover the justification of labour or economic activity generally.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, leaving the talent aside, as who the fuck even cares, grass for the scythe : the ~entrepreneurial young & coming photographer~! which the fuck one of the numerous "mista photographies" expended the resources to produce this artefact.
mircea_popescu: (fwiw i always suspected that's the deep core of the pantsuit fascination with "eastern philosophy" : "o look, a cultural space fundamentally as self-alienated as we ourselves feel inside! THIS IS THE RIGHT BRAND OF EMO FOR MY NEEDS!".)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 01:11 phf: i think somehow lisp symbols tie into this, i'd call it sanskrit thinking, because you also see that a lot in sanskrit. let's attach as much meaning to this symbol as we possibly can, but when we speak the correct meaning will be communicated because the other person is also a vedic god
mircea_popescu: human society ~exists since the dawn of time as "men finding text in images of women"
mircea_popescu: let all porn i put in the chan be preserved forever as a matter of "national security" by all teh national-whatevers, why not.
mircea_popescu: as tumblr.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as wat, performanceart?
phf: now if only they applied same principles to dog sales as well
mircea_popescu: (in the story it's just used to characterize the male character as omnipotent ; but as literature is never divorced from ideology...)
mircea_popescu: a very strong ideal property of this is given in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-245.1-238.5 ; which is a large part of the problem and also serves as illustration -- who the fuck knew that random whore story from 2014 is actually an expose on generative grammar. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the PROBLEM with this constructive view of hermeneutics is that a) often G fails in its function and that b) just as often people fail to correctly apply it, impredictably and unreasonably.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the doctrine that "alternative interpretations fall off as the tree is built" has two major weaknesses : a) you'd be surprised how often there's an unexpected fault in the dielectric and b) you'd be surprised how often people get caught in emo insanity.
phf: i think somehow lisp symbols tie into this, i'd call it sanskrit thinking, because you also see that a lot in sanskrit. let's attach as much meaning to this symbol as we possibly can, but when we speak the correct meaning will be communicated because the other person is also a vedic god ☟︎
mircea_popescu: jesus that phrase came out hard to parse. let's parens : (well, (it's not clear to me ((his position) was ((ever pro-unicode) (outside of a (platonic object (unicode (was about as much (as smgl was)))))
mircea_popescu: anyway, jwz's own history, self-serving as it is, nevertheless seems accurate to me : mule is what was left once all the inept
mircea_popescu: well, it's not clear to me his position was ever pro-unicode outside of a platonic object unicode was about as much as smgl was.
asciilifeform: as supported as now.
mircea_popescu: and rms saw ~no value in supporting x, especially if that was going to break any more of the thoroughly broken bag of fractures they were tending as emacs 18
mircea_popescu: this i judge as the right move, otherwise might've hanged self in despair years prior to republic.
asciilifeform: what period. emacs today ( genuine emacs, that is ) worx exactly same as 18
mircea_popescu: either that or the "dumb as a brick" comment.
trinque: as to that, americans love making up titles.
mircea_popescu: btw, in pantsuit distillate terminology is "legacy" as to the future or as to the past ?
asciilifeform: all kindsa weird. ( and not so hard to think of some reasons as to why. )
asciilifeform: found) only consumes roughly as many random bits as the size of the output primes, but we can show that its output distribution, even if it can be shown to have high entropy if the prime r-tuple conjecture holds, is also provably quite far from uniform... It is likely that most algorithms that proceed deterministically beyond an initial random choice, including those of Joye, Paillier and Vaudenay... ...or Maurer... exhibit similar d
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, yes, that's what i'm, saying, kinda interesting to see if this may actually work as that.
mircea_popescu: it could be good as in-chan prng.
mircea_popescu: anyway, friendly reminder : many people run this chan as a main/major part of their tty arrangement, read all the lines, you do NOT wish to advertise yourself as an annoyance.
asciilifeform: thermal tape dun burn quite as well as ordinary paper ( heat treated ) but it burns ok in a propane or butane flame, or with other accelerant
mircea_popescu: "just burn the roll as you use it"
shinohai: http://archive.is/SUV5O <<< I know it is Kruds on Security, but nonetheless lulzy "Snyder discovered that Overstock’s site just as happily accepted bitcoin cash as payment,....." to any old regular Bitcoin address
asciilifeform: about as practical as iteration from 1 to sqrt(n).
shinohai: Now you make me think of it, the crocodiles were just as entertaining to watch as the birds when I was in Florida. My trip was strictly for birds!
mircea_popescu: it's somewhat a pity internet culture settled on "troll" as the mythological beast. crocodile perhaps much better on cool examination.
mircea_popescu: ie what is informally referred to as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766620 ☝︎
shinohai: I am pondering that mircea_popescu ... as hanbot said it would be tedious to dump a bunch of links directly to chan, so I was thinking maybe to a paste.
mircea_popescu: in short, i don't want to read what sort of code apple wrote ; i want apple to never write any code again as long as any of them live.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767465 << this also serves as a better statement of naggum's "free software failed" argument. it is ~worthless to obtain access to insanity mechanized. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: also re "epicycles", should prolly link http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1487207 (or the other one, iirc we had a better discussion somewhewre as to how actual clocks were "hacked" over time to catch up with the moving solar function, resulting in these cvasi-organic piles of patches upon patches making the original mechanism barely comprehensible). imo the better example ; anyone who's seen a medieval clock can't help but b ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in fact all code is first and foremost literary work. that (some of it) machines can run is about as interesting as which kinds of smoothies flies favour.
mircea_popescu: (tbh, i think it's somewhat shameful the item doesn't come preloaded as a default in wordpress ; it SHOULD by rights, that's what fucking culture is about in the first place, offer the classes preloaded ffs.)
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's admittedly distant perch, loox as if cn knew the seekret of 'eternal '80s'
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if it is a total mystery what current-day machinery produced in the ludovic-13 cannon style look like. looks like lockheed et al
mircea_popescu: they're distinct threads in human civilisation (as opposed to human culture). textile was mass produced long before it was industrialized also.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "easy" and "miner" goes trogether about as well as "sexy" and "fat" pair.
asciilifeform: lol except for the ones disguised as bauxite refineries
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda hard not to know ; sensitive to the same process of discovery as "hydroponic" pot farm
mircea_popescu: let's make this point plain, as apparently somehow it's not self-evident : acting like a mongoloid does not get you "suave" brownie points. it gets you mongoloid points.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: no precedent gets set. and since the 'double jeopardy' restriction in usa is as good as gone, the same d00dz can be re-accused and re-tried later by obummer-II or whoever
Swant: Well I'm just a normal freenode staffer and wanted to check in on what this channel is as it was brought to my attention
asciilifeform: this is almost as preeecious as alice_
btcvixen: i did what you asked for, why not extend yourself as promised. I told you who I am. I know who I am.
mircea_popescu: your government is about as interesting as one instance of dorks playing monopoly.
btcvixen: Yes it does, as my government id says "Sex: F"
btcvixen: just because your personal philosophy doesn't accept who i am as a person doesn't invalidate me or my identity.
mircea_popescu: as in what, not huge tits ? chromosomally xy ? which ?
shinohai: indiancandy came by as sofiababy last night while I was afk mircea_popescu .... still need a voice for the pr thing ?
asciilifeform: and finding not-all is as good as finding none.
asciilifeform: ( it makes a kochtronic (i.e. variable-width) arithmetron exponentiate faster. but answer is same , as far as i can tell, as if it were not done )
asciilifeform: diana_coman, apeloyee : it does make d smaller. but as far as i can see it doesn't do anything interesting rsatronically
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> basically, technocucks so fucking petrified of their emotions and the structure of power, they will retreat into bikeshedding as a comfortable substitute for sanity. << Could not be more evident than in Microshit/Ubuntu "User Interface must change every major release"
asciilifeform: and gotta point out, gcd and lcm not the same, gcd(x,y)*lcm(x,y)=x*y (proof left as exercise)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 02:02 mircea_popescu: 5. client proceeds to build what it can (if set to, and as per signatures again) and present the pile.