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spyked: mccarthy's "up to 30 characters" (ref. Lisp manual Appendix F)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:38 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741759 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-22#1741862 <-- string not a primitive, but -- "string" datatype aside -- symbol names are (conceptually) strings, so they (the symbol names) require an internal representation etc. cons'ing characters upon reading was simplest approach I found to storing and structuring them. con: list cells introduce memory overhead; pros: avoids arrays and magic numbers like ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:35 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741176 << i don't need to consider that, i grok metacircularity, i.e. there's no such thing as builtin symbols. bytecode or not is lateral to that point.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741755 <-- crap. sorry for the confusion! I was thinking about builtin functions, not symbols. need a meaningful way to point symbols to those things, and meaningful way revealed itself once I finally grasped your point. /me proceeds to rewrite symbols+builtin pieces. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: good example of tmsr as antireddit: nothing in the "nollij of crowds", but if yr lucky some sages will come by with a set of koans to set you rethinkin priors
ben_vulpes: solid thread phf, asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: ^ The update
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/11/22/and-the-arrangements-continue/ << Bingo Blog - And The Arrangements Continue
BingoBoingo: OMG Crashing, this is bullish for SegCrash
mircea_popescu: for that exact reason.
asciilifeform: always seemed like ripoff, 10-20x the cost of normal film
asciilifeform: can't comment, i never in entire life owned the actual camera for them
mircea_popescu: ~only utility for those is "baby's first naked pic" back when they didn't shave, didn't suck cock and didn't habitually strip naked in company.
asciilifeform: hm, interestingly, the crapola inside polaroid is quite nasty, picture alkaline battery that's been rotting for 20 yrs
asciilifeform: ( prolly was the right item actually. that sack, with the arm sleeves )
asciilifeform: unless using one of those field darkroom sacks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lolwat do you mean 'have roof' ? indeed whole thing would be quite impossible outdoors
asciilifeform: electrical tape for the idjit green led in the mains socket...
asciilifeform: doorway was ok, simply cut the lights in the rest of the house.
mircea_popescu: holy shit turns out i know a lot about field developing.
mircea_popescu: also, shaving foam on the inside of doorway.
mircea_popescu: duct tape.
asciilifeform: yea stuck doing sumthing with the window.
asciilifeform: other find : 'scotch' tape is not usable in darkroom experiment : it triboluminesces
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cut up cardboard, coupla inches larger than window, duct-tape on.
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform discovered that his bathroom makes an almost worthless dark room -- has window. and after eyes dilate can see that somewhere far away, faint headlights etc
BingoBoingo to sober time, will likely blog update progress upon return
asciilifeform: lol! loox like i picked the winning horse...
mircea_popescu: (to keep form it has to be always feminine anyway, so this works surprisingly well)
mircea_popescu: (all the proposed definitions are at least somewhat reasonable)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-22#1741925 << ooh neato ty ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i thought you had it exposed.
mircea_popescu: dja know how to calc teh distance ?
mircea_popescu: mind how you calc the distance.
asciilifeform: i'ma try it with b&w iso film next, because with what else.
mircea_popescu: that's not a film, that's a print.
asciilifeform: polaroid actually is known to make ~decent adhoc ~beta~ ( the relevant particle, gamma goes ~right through without any useful effect ) film
mircea_popescu: roll some rexona on the chip and throw it against the wall.
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna do it like this, why not use a fridge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what reasoning would impel a sane fellow to use fucking polaroids auto-paper, when a bit of film would have about 9k x resolution ?
asciilifeform: btw this is approx same as what they look like if burst unexposed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform used to be reactives were expensive. no more. proper bath, listen to me.
mircea_popescu: bathroom in most us places works as dark room, screw in red light plug the window if it exists.
asciilifeform: meeeaanwhile in failed experiments, asciilifeform tried to take an xray of the bolix-ivory die, so as to get moar realistic microscopy quote at some point. method : ra-226 capsule (commercial geiger test src), b&w 'polaroid' film. weakness turns out to be the latter : when developed using rolling pin, fixer pouch bursts, and result is liquishit
mod6: spare time deal
BingoBoingo: "How did he make his money?" "Communism fell, there was money running porn studios in the 1990's, and now he alternately builds and unbuilds empires"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo *you would if you could import the fresh tuna.
BingoBoingo: "He's a Romanian living in Costa Rica" "Why? Because he can. You would if you could too."
mircea_popescu: oh, in other lulz : costa rica failed to send anyone to miss universe competition (some indian midget won in china). on the basis of observed data... this is correct.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, explaining to normal ordinary people in meatspace who Mircea Popescu is, is surprisingly simple. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: cafe trebol sa. would shrimp there again!
mircea_popescu: so i go into shop that has you know, coffee toaster and a buncha nuts etc, and go "camarron ?" and the woman looks at me befuddled, so i'm like "semillas de camarron!" and she's eyeing me like wtf then realises. "maranon ?"
BingoBoingo: The co working space is a block still further. The mall is a block to the north. The Pocitos and Buceo playas are equidistant.
BingoBoingo: Next nearest place with similar setup is on other side of Pocitos neightborhood, while this one is across street and around block from World Trade Center
mircea_popescu: i forget the rest.
mircea_popescu: and all the world were new!
BingoBoingo: Right. This arrangement comes with roommates through accident of having booked bed at same place. Also comes with breakfast.
mircea_popescu: "rent is 100 but i don't have to spend 150 to get language lessons, o noes, im 50 in the green here"
mircea_popescu: not bad start. find a shared apt deal among the students after, will be cheaper in the sense of paying for itself via roommates.
BingoBoingo: Sometime late february to March price goes down substantially
BingoBoingo: Just about, in a hostel, during high tourist season.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 23:05 BingoBoingo has today acquired place to office through December $311 bezzel bucks and place to sleep $400 through December 26th.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741804 << what's that, like 400 a month to lay down your head ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: eventually late 70s incarnations looked exactly like the early nissan suvs. of the 90s.
mircea_popescu: then the romanians added 10% hp / 10% speed etc five years later. then added 15% more five years later. and so on
asciilifeform: and that thing looks quite drivable. something like a willis.
mircea_popescu: they keep gaining majorities at the ballots.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz head of the reds, ie, vaguely left-centrists. but rather, because somewhat opposite to usg party.
mircea_popescu: ^ there, suv.
mircea_popescu: so i do feel an inclination to just drive them over.
asciilifeform: which one is this, ro's eltsin ?
mircea_popescu: people did that sort of thing, back then. and all the fuckbook tards who paint the dude (rightfully or not, i don't give a shit) as the summum malum never as much as put together a fucking lego box. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but take this forinstance : thorouyghly hated politician active these days MADE his own fucking ARO (70s romanian SUV). OUT OF PARTS. WHICH HE BOUGTH. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: depends. 80s were insufferable (but, according to eg stanculescu, still better than ru). 70s were supposedly great. 60s ro was ahead of the post-war pack, but still... europe. even the french had malnutrition. ☟︎
asciilifeform: quite civilized compared to current-day monkeylandia
asciilifeform: and while i'd hesitate to time travel to 'golden age' su, i'd almost happily move to shoemaker-era ro
mircea_popescu: (mostly 70s tech, no robotics, no etc.)
mircea_popescu: made to the tune of 1,5k a day or such, respectable altogether.
mircea_popescu: proportionally 10x than the ru things, because smaller pop.
asciilifeform: holyfuq that's fast
mircea_popescu: and you showed up like for the draft, paper in hand and specified comcast-style times. "between 8 and 17". people fucking camped at the plant.
mircea_popescu: i tell the girls stories, you know, "to get a car in the 80s you had to deposit 80k lei in this so and so account, and then 8 to 18 months later they'd call you TO THE PLANT and you'd get, mostly, a car. of whatever color they had available and maybe with all the parts. there were no fucking showrooms or anything, people drove the car home 500 kms.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 22:50 ben_vulpes: > the founders series roadster will cost buyers a 250K down payment even though it's not coming for more than two years
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741801 << this inept socialist empire's vehicular nonsense is starting to sound a lot like the fabled stories of teh romanian socialist republic. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 20:17 phf: tits
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 20:03 phf: trinque: the point is about exchange standard, rather than effect. we can also follow eran gatt's approach and specify a *safe-readtable*
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741773 << i thought this was the idea. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:38 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741759 << this is actually a good point. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( ditches the gnumake dependency, and much shorter and more makessensical process )
asciilifeform: also moved from make to gprbuild
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-21#1741741 << this is pretty good tbh. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: trinque> I just beat his face in << better strategy. "bitch, by the time i'm done with you, your mom's gonna be begging to bring me my hat in her snatch every weekend after nine."
asciilifeform: set up the necessary blathers, 'movements', etc.
asciilifeform: the actual reason is the one described in 'death of the american city' -- j00z & puritans allied to nuke the irish and polish catholics in usa
mircea_popescu: the most amusing example being that in 1817, back when "miscegenation" was a serious offence, and in 2017, when "bbc" is kinda fashionable, the prevalence of black-white mixed kids born was ~same. cuz exogamy is a behaviour and society is a blather, guess which comes later.
mircea_popescu: trinque the theory isn't that it actually does anything ; the idea is that the ~reason~ they thought they're doing it was pretty dumb.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lifetime vaccine against equalism. << AHA, I ad to get vaccinated later at college for that
trinque: I guess in the movie, kid goes and runs to friend to get the hat