asciilifeform: but can tell ~direction~

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-15#1483006 ☝︎

asciilifeform: (sandy hook)

asciilifeform: similar to the day care where 2 men in camo went in, machine gunned, left, leaving autistic tard in their place with empty rifle, then caught in the woods, 'questioned', let go.

asciilifeform: aha. that one.

asciilifeform: and then fired into ?

asciilifeform: the one they blew a hole in the back of ?

asciilifeform: incidentally rumours of a good chunk of the gay bar corpses having 9mm police holes in'em continue to circulate.

asciilifeform: in 1776.

asciilifeform: the terrorists won.

asciilifeform: zhe.

asciilifeform: i asked amoeba once if he minded, he didn't say nuffin.

asciilifeform: surely not.

asciilifeform: the cows sometimes - rarely - birth people. or they would still be living in trees, in strictly ecologically sustainable with bare hands sort of numbers.

asciilifeform: works in the strict biological sense.

asciilifeform: truly.

asciilifeform: 'easy going' like shit floating down a river.

asciilifeform: ^ the example of opposite of what i was describing.

asciilifeform: nm found, http://trilema.com/2013/ive-found-her

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have the 'karla from california' article link handy ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a good bit of aptitude in, e.g., weight lifting, i suspect, is simply having a dull sense of the pain involved in effort

asciilifeform: having spine will do that

asciilifeform: or aiming not to be a slug

asciilifeform: but here we are

asciilifeform: on the surface jwz also 'aren't'

asciilifeform: and other monstrosities

asciilifeform: e.g., jwz 'family man'

asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu had a number of pretty clear not-wants-to-be.

asciilifeform: and making effort over own pig-brain

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488354 << imho this is one of the things that distinguishes actual people from the cow folk - actual people have a concrete conception of ~wanting to be a specific thing~ ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463317 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do we need the winnie pooh quote again

asciilifeform: what was it, the 'maybe my REAL LIFE will start!111' thing

asciilifeform: there was even a spiffy mircea_popescu article re same

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'under any circumstances' thing comes precisely from chump's illusion of 'maybe next year i escape'

asciilifeform: the bias is from this ignorance.

asciilifeform: same as if he ~knew~ for certain that he will do 50 years of rubyschwitz without parole.

asciilifeform: if chump ~knew~ this, he would eat nagant

asciilifeform: people have this bias, where being vaporized by nuke is somehow obviously terrible but wasting 50 yrs on ruby is not

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would have had to trigger full-blown ww3 on all sides to even compare roughly with the damage from microshit alone.

asciilifeform: (and notice that folks only mostly gave up cutting ol' william s. quite recently.)

asciilifeform: all the cuttable 'shakespeares' got cut.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488295 and this actually resolves http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488036 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: $s the feeling of power

asciilifeform: ah, ~that~ 'understand'.

asciilifeform: and everything to do with cancerous pile of rubbish with 'creates jeeeerbs'

asciilifeform: has NOTHING to do with 'easy to understand'

asciilifeform: nobody

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who 'understands' rails etc. ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: bad program ~shrinks design space~

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is what i was trying to get across with the 'bad flying only kills a busful, bad program - potentially everyone' example ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, he'd be one of the 9,999 failed everettescus ☟︎

asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu still be having a ball if he were spending his life cleaning up ruby garbage ?

asciilifeform: the i have nfi

asciilifeform: so what happened, pistol jammed ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480777 << ☝︎

asciilifeform: recall the ruby thread ?

asciilifeform: but everyone who actually sees through this glass has already eaten pistol.

asciilifeform: is one possible perspective.

asciilifeform: 'good cake, bad cake, all turns to shit'

asciilifeform: yeah, but somebody has to do it. and you don't get the wasted people back.

asciilifeform: my point was that bad programming has just as permanent an effect as bad flying. more so, in fact, as badly flown machine can only kill a busfull of folks, while bad design of program (or machine) can enstupidate generations.

asciilifeform: precisely, the 'result before $time t at minimal cost' give you layers upon layers of braindamage.

asciilifeform: the illusion that 'live and learn, there is endless retakes' is an illusion, just that

asciilifeform: speaking of the eater.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not reversible from food's pov.

asciilifeform: bad program can be just as lethal, if more slowly, than dud pilot.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do we buy a new you, when you spent your whole life buying computers instead of $solving.

asciilifeform: in that the mistakes are not guaranteed to be reversible.

asciilifeform: which, it turns out, has more in common with flying than anyone is willing to admit

asciilifeform: or - imho - programming.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488220 << this is a workable way to teach cooking, or perhaps music, but not, say, flying ☝︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: bear the costs? or double-entendre intentional

asciilifeform: phf: upcasing utf8 is a heavy op, so i suspect that it will be gnarly

asciilifeform: anyway..

asciilifeform: why why why can't we have grep -i "string".

asciilifeform: i think it dun like urls.

asciilifeform: ^ but not findable

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-14#1482806 ☝︎

asciilifeform: $s http://lib.ru/ZELQZNY/TheGreatSlowKings.txt

asciilifeform: phf's search dun find it.

asciilifeform: june 14.

asciilifeform: so it ~is~ in the logz

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. not the space. and the link is literally a repost

asciilifeform: anyway, http://lib.ru/ZELQZNY/TheGreatSlowKings.txt

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by default

asciilifeform: grep -i "foo" compliance plox

asciilifeform: phf ?

asciilifeform: can we ditch the case-sensitive bullshit plox ?

asciilifeform: IT IS IN THE FUCKING LOGS

asciilifeform: motherfucker

asciilifeform: $s great slow kings

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the difficult bit is not merely in machine lasting millenium, but in the problem it is solving lasting anywhere near...

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if your gurl had to figure out how to grow and harvest wheat, from first principles, you will have no pastry in this millenium

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: optimization problem, where the solver already has very good approximate values for all the params.

asciilifeform: ^ satisfied? or too many turds floating in the sea? or wut

asciilifeform: $google how to bake pastry

asciilifeform: where ? in the zygote ?

asciilifeform: the whole point of programming is to drive home the idea that 'i need prime p, with p-1 and p+1 having large composites, and q.... ' etc to the box.