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assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 17:36:44; asciilifeform: funkenstein_: since you apparently missed the whole thread, the reason is TO HAVE
A PORTABLE UNIX BOX THAT EVEN SORT-OF WORKS
mircea_popescu: arguably in the same circumstances : usg derpiong finally crashed
a local power sturcture, waves of ro/bg/polish/east german etc came crashing down
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 23:14:41; mircea_popescu: (the other thing is that while the audience is struggly to follow [some appear to merely struggle to appear to be struggling to follow], or to even see, brin has this very clearly cut disapproving disappointment on his face, like
a major stupidity was just uttered and well... they'll never know.
mircea_popescu: apparently it has
a long tradition in hosting weirdos :D
pete_dushenski: "
a cohort of what I would like to call the “black digital intelligentsia” has emerged. They wrestle with ideas, stake out political territory, and lead, very much in the same way that my generation did, only without needing, or necessarily wanting,
a home in the Ivy League—and by making their name online."
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 19:20:34; asciilifeform: if you ask for
a closing door, or to work remotely, it is usually seen as
a demand to play tetris instead of work.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Never thought I'd see my hometown mentioned on #b-
a..
cazalla: lemme check, might need
a space or something
mircea_popescu: "To get Heaviside away from Newton Abbot, his brother Charles arranged for him to live with his sister-in-law, Mary Way, at her home in Devon. Since Mary lived alone, having the eccentric Heaviside live upstairs from her seemed like
a good idea. Unfortunately, things got even more bizarre at that point. Heaviside insisted on treating Mary as
a slave despite her being the owner of the house. Not only did he order
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but anyway,
a better question, who's the hottie in the gray shirt.
mircea_popescu: (the other thing is that while the audience is struggly to follow [some appear to merely struggle to appear to be struggling to follow], or to even see, brin has this very clearly cut disapproving disappointment on his face, like
a major stupidity was just uttered and well... they'll never know.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 19:09:30; asciilifeform: i, for instance, can't think about any deep problem when in
a place where human speech is happening, or bodies are in motion.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 18:20:42; asciilifeform: trinque: there is not
a handy answer to 'what should culture man stuck in
a dying civilization do'
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 18:17:58; asciilifeform: then they lost
a war and got culturally annihilated and enslaved by the anglos.
phf: i remember that we were actually taught how to properly treat teachers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcZgoOyalaI amusingly i'd never seen that short on tv, it would always play during "entertainment break" when they would send us to
a school movie hall to watch random stuff
cazalla: some students earn
A's while others can only earn C's type of thing we have here, whereas in public high school - all must strive to earn
A's while none actually can
trinque: I once found
a trivial flaw in
a java applet some idiot put together for
a "mock 2004 presidential election"
mircea_popescu: ah such great country names for
a book these'd be. checkoslavia. yugoslovakia. austrogermany.
kakobrekla: >throwing those into teachers from the top of
a entrance < o yeah i did that too. only in elementary.
cazalla: trinque, i threatened to shoot
a bunch of kids at my school via icq.. made front page of local rag and blurred out face on local tv, no name though :\ probably get 10 years like that isis kid these days
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suppose the only people in
a similar position are the ex terrorist israelis.
cazalla: flogged.. took
a while for me to figure out my father did that not for anything related to taking the screwdriver to school
trinque: my friend was busted for precisely that, some kind of "cyber terrorism" for sending
a joke threat email with the headers changed to look like it came from faculty
cazalla: i brought
a screwdriver in the early 90s.. confiscated, parents called
trinque: not
a terrorist charge eh?
mircea_popescu:
a) nobody cared and b) this really was more in line with "chemistry experiment" than whatever orc derpage goes on in us ghetto.
mircea_popescu: brought an airgun to school, and shot
a nutsized hole in the blackboard.
mircea_popescu: for instance :
a guy i've recently talked to again after many years, who is now
a reasonably respected thinker in his field,
mircea_popescu: but the real difficulty, is explaining the actual reality to people who already have been suplied
a falsificating convention to misinterpret it with. like the case above discussed with the purpose of the railcar pushing face.
trinque: we got into some fun of that nature in the last two years. one can learn
a lot about computers bored as hell in TX public school, if he's awake
trinque: I was barely mentally present, near-perfect marks and
a free ride into college
mircea_popescu: trinque throughout my hs i was what you'd call
a honors student with ~1/3 attendance.
trinque: I went to
a "magnet school" in TX, was bored out of my mind except for various acts of resistance through adolescence
shinohai drinks
a toast to pete_dushenski
cazalla: mircea_popescu, perhaps, mine was
a shitty public school, missus was exclusive private and seems to be that is just another type of bezzle (all students must go to uni to get loaded up on debt type thing)
phf: quitting school? that's
a paddling
☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf and there's nothing wrong with the process per se, as
a distraction. but you have to admit the only way it was an acceptable behaviour when you were 16 was because YOU ALSO WENT OT SCHOOL.
phf: i've realized that
a lot of my systems anxiety comes from trying to be "filthy casual" with
a lot of technology i have no business in. in my case comes from 90s tradition of buying all manner of pirated software on the way home from school. "today i'll learn 3ds max and tomorrow autocad"
mircea_popescu: yes, it's true that for
a majority of people out there, the existence of the sandwich would stay
a mystery lest they saw it drawn on
a key on their cash register.
mircea_popescu: than to derp around in
a labirinth of ps "features" that aren't even exposed properly (you want me to... click ? seriously ?) and with
a cvasi-guarantee you will not be able to do it, but have to settle on "this is how we do it in ps".
mircea_popescu: it doesn't work for "filthy casual" that wishes to pretend like he's doing serious work while really not doing much of anything. but otherwise, if you are actually goin gto do serious work, it is by far
a better use of your time to work the parenscripts of gimp into the shape you need them to be with the guarantee you will be agle to get there,
mircea_popescu: phf: well, i have
a 2.4 box that runs "if your dodgy stack fails, this must remain" operations, like email << this design hasn't been recently reviewed i would guess.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 06:28:45; mircea_popescu: the geometric notion of the point, and the geometric notion of
a line, and the geometric notion of
a plane, and the geometric notion of wolfram's mother impaled on
a triple cheeseburger ALL SATISFY THIS DEFINITION
mircea_popescu: in
a very peculiar sense that includes the sea, which is
a large part of why i think la tera trema such
a major point in art.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile california is just about to fall into the fucking ocean. oddly enough. problems it didn't have as
a "failed state", it has in abundance as
a whatever it is.
mircea_popescu: the notion that
a queue is an acceptable situation is more enmitous to humanity than any other mental device.
mircea_popescu: the girl, being too young, thinks this is
a bad thing, because romanians are thus so observably different from the "more civilised" assorted cattles of europe.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, this point needn't be decided theoretically now, seeing how it'll be decided practically in just
a few years anyway.
mircea_popescu: "Taler is thus
a currency for the mainstream economy, and not the black market." lmao ok. here's
a news tidbit : so called "black market" IS the mainstream economy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but at least that thing compiles to
a fixed form.
gribble: Error: "this" is not
a valid command.
phf: right, there are different namespaces for different kinds of data, like $ is
a scalar, @ is
a collection, & is
a callable, i'm sure other things i forget
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 21:09:39; mircea_popescu: gavrea, whom i've recently mentioned, had
a very similar saying to distinguish between the "mathematical understanding" as described by funkenstein and the genuine article, by using the difference between the romanian words muzician (musician) and muzicant (roughly speaking, illiterate gypsy that can play by ear)
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 22:33:02; assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 14:16:12; assbot: Logged on 10-12-2014 00:51:50; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps
a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps
a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head
phf: it's
a pointer alright, but if you were to store
a function in there, you have to use special syntax to execute it
mircea_popescu: phf you mean
a number not
a pointer, and using it to be
a function is abuse ?
phf: afair perl uses multiple namespaces, so $ is explicitly
a storage space, i.e.
a variable
mircea_popescu: gavrea, whom i've recently mentioned, had
a very similar saying to distinguish between the "mathematical understanding" as described by funkenstein and the genuine article, by using the difference between the romanian words muzician (musician) and muzicant (roughly speaking, illiterate gypsy that can play by ear)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for asciilifeform won't deign to call that thing
a compiler
mircea_popescu: but nevertheless $_ can take the value of being
a function
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 15:52:48; ben_vulpes: Using 'if' or the ternary operator as
a function is quite common in perl. Using data structures to control flow is common in perl. Trying to learn C# after learning perl was like running head first into
a brick wall. I'm really glad this guy is trying to make programming
a bit more perl-like."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i actualy had to do that i'd hire
a mexican to drag
a desktop and use special cabling before i'd use
a fucking proprietary laptop.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 15:49:14; ben_vulpes: i do dream of having
a workstation though, and the lifestyle to support it.
mircea_popescu: i have
a dead sand nigger on file, but his name was spelled differently.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 14:01:44; nubbins`: there's
a Lemmings-esque game out for Wii U and 3DS; purchase one version and get
a free download code for the other version
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 14:00:49; nubbins`: any of you nerds own
a nintendo 3ds?
mircea_popescu: ontogenesis repeats all the accidents of phylogenesis in
a distorted, cursed form.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 14:22:29; funkenstein_: "
a number like 2 is
a rank zero tensor, now you know tensors"
mircea_popescu:
a half-baked implementation of V is what i had been maintaining in my head throughout my schooling years.
mircea_popescu: but V is the best simulation of how actual math learning happens (in those brains actually capable to learn math) that we ever had as
a fucking species.
☟︎ phf: i was once laughed out of interview for suggesting that i want an office with
a door that i can close on demand