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mircea_popescu: it goes off existing matter or goes hang.
mircea_popescu: not allowed.
mircea_popescu: then no good. and whatever patches reference it should burn.
mircea_popescu: there is no c).
mircea_popescu: it still has to either a) chain off an existing element or b) not be part of the story.
mircea_popescu: no such wonder.
mircea_popescu: would it be better if instead of genesis we called it terminator ?
mircea_popescu: ugh.
mircea_popescu: because ambiguous genesis.
mircea_popescu: no graph of mine is ever going into this state of sin.
mircea_popescu: how teh hell would thatr be the case.
mircea_popescu: mno!
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tru. but it ends up SOMEWHERE.
mircea_popescu: the obvious usage is due to it being <project-name>-genesis. but yeah.
mircea_popescu: mod6 : if you're building trb, you start from a trb genesis. if you're building V (via V), you start from a V genesis. and so on.
mircea_popescu: then people get conned into pretending "education" is an engineering field.
mircea_popescu: the problems only begin when trinque goes on a jwz rampage "i only wanted the offspring to sprout, not rob the store".
mircea_popescu: mod6 it'd be a new genesis yeah.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "can not be cut apart" and "sometimes you get a hankering for bareback ; so you make sure the bitch's on the pill"
mircea_popescu: works for me.
mircea_popescu: mod6 each genesis carves it's own "universe", of possible patches. asciilifeform prefers to call this universe "light cone". it could perhaps be argued that the applicable patches as shaped by your trusted keys is more properly your light cone, though might as well call it "trust cone" and be done with it
mircea_popescu: word.
mircea_popescu: and to my eyes this is an essential point of wtf we're even doing here in the first place.
mircea_popescu: there is not nor should there be such a rthing as "dual headed".
mircea_popescu: so then...
mircea_popescu: actually : a v build that, upon pressing genesis, includes 1-of-2 is ipso facto broken.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sense that it fails to attack to the tree it is very broken. i have no idea why a v build would even include it.
mircea_popescu: part 2 of 2 behaves correctly in teh tree.
mircea_popescu: yeah ; well iirc that was a broken early experimental attempt by you ?
mircea_popescu: where is this item ?
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: "a genesis" makes no sense ; vpatches with no antecendents are merely that - vpatches with no antecedents. the genesis is the first item.
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: this is the definition of this term. "the first item".
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: then you're not making any sense. there can be exactly 1 genesis for any press, build, v etc.
mircea_popescu: you can't "invoke both". you mean de-genesis one ?
mircea_popescu: there can only be one.
mircea_popescu: i see only one.
mircea_popescu: each creates its own universe.
mircea_popescu: also, you can't have two genesis-es.
mircea_popescu: you'll have to rebase.
mircea_popescu: mod6 in /8a5485a/ provided "8a5485a" is the genesis' hash
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because "everything together" monolith ?
mircea_popescu: i dun wanna build windows.
mircea_popescu: eh that'll produce windows.
mircea_popescu: i didn't realise he saw this as a mistake either!
mircea_popescu: that solves everything. and a different project will necessary have a diff genesis, so separated.
mircea_popescu: now, why not put its work product in a directory named for the genesis employed ?
mircea_popescu: yeah but i'm totally lost as to what you're saying. looky : v works by starting with a genesis. correct ?
mircea_popescu: uh. what ?!
mircea_popescu: phf the problem is there's no good way to extract that alias string. maybe yours is bitcoin and mine is Bit-coin
mircea_popescu: mod6 the part where each press should end up collected in the /genesis-hash/ dir is settled, i thought ?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean multiple roots ?
mircea_popescu: pfff.
mircea_popescu: costs more in traffic disruption.
mircea_popescu: seriously, $5mn is what "an emergency" is worth ?
mircea_popescu: alrighty.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "cannonical", but there is a "total patch universe".
mircea_popescu: because, for any given genesis block, the possible patches are universally available ; and the only way to obtain variant builds is through pruning the sigs.
mircea_popescu: because, as darn.
mircea_popescu: logically, it can only be the name of the genesis block.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's go into detail here. so, the observation was, that as v is used in multiple projects, it makes no sense all the files be dumped in the same directory. this is sound. what directory shall they be dumped into ?
mircea_popescu: idiots ?
mircea_popescu: uh. i dun think what you're thinking about is being discussed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re cleaving thing : found it, credited it to you in latest trilema.
mircea_popescu: no ; but it stands to reason. he's not coming in conflict with that is he ?
mircea_popescu: what else do you bolt, the bare beam for ornamentation ?
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: and then bolted.
mircea_popescu: basic mortise and tenon neh ?
mircea_popescu: get the girls all drugged up, make them pronounce "assemblableable" evening's entertainment right there!
mircea_popescu: assemblableable holy shit.
mircea_popescu: that's girl talk.
mircea_popescu: ^ if anyone has suggestions... ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i recall the word cleave being used but teh search is unhelpful
mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform got a link to where you made the point in the log that most of what sane people do consists of cleaving the practical from the metaphysical or such ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ha!
mircea_popescu: :d
mircea_popescu: >D
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: or w/e.
mircea_popescu: so you cd trb and it takes you to it.
mircea_popescu: well, on sane systems there's simlinks at least.
mircea_popescu: and there's symlinks if anyone wants to alias. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ~that~ is the only correct representation of what's in there anyway
mircea_popescu: none of this "trb". just make a dir like /7ad78d387187350 or w/e
mircea_popescu: ideally : items should live in a dir = the genesis hash.
mircea_popescu: good point re... v localization lol
mircea_popescu: mod6 sounds ok. i'm just trying to figure out how to best employ your power wrench is all :)
mircea_popescu: how to kill yourself, volume 44 : save on drills.
mircea_popescu: talk of fucking empires.
mircea_popescu: lol!
mircea_popescu: metal is ductile, unlike all other materials (wood, concrete, etc) which are friable.
mircea_popescu: also don't use common dril bits on metal you'll fuck everything up. get special.
mircea_popescu: the thing is ~for concrete, wtf are you doing.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: what is this, people sick of paying for retirement homes fantasizing ?