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mod6: yeah, i might need to alias as 7ad78d38... might get unwieldy for users.
mod6: ok. i kinda like that.
mod6: Cool.
mod6: get a load of this: http://dpaste.com/1T5SZCA.txt
mod6: Which would be fine, but seems like I should just wait until after 99994, then one can grab V, and use V to do V things. It's a mind bender. :]
mod6: Which also means, it almost makes no sense to even publish the v-genesis.vpatch that I currently have as it is no use to anyone if they can't grab a canonical version from the mirror. All they'd be able to do is get it from the mailing list, with the seal, and drop it into their local working directory as one would expect. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: What does this mean for us: It means that I need to implement the ability to grab named projects from the mirror. This will require a new version of V (99994), updating documentation et. al.
mod6: I haven't started work in that direction yet, just wanted to bring it up.
mod6: so it would be something like: /v/, /trb/, /t/, /gossipd/ or whatever.
mod6: and since now we have; trb, t, v, ... and many others probably forthcoming, one should need to specify what they want to pull down locally. ☟︎
mod6: which it kinda does -- but V, in its current form, expects all vpatches and seals to be in http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/
mod6: and while using V, can use it to press out a new V. that part is happy enough. but there is a new feature that needs to be implemented for V: The ability to have separate projects.
mod6: meanwhile, I've created a v-genesis.vpatch
mod6: and while I'm at it here... I have been considering schemes for doing longer notes. will keep working on that.
mod6: Probably would just tack it on the notes here. Sound ok?
mod6: %p trb 30
mod6: If I were to do it, i might just add a note in ther ethat says "wallet functionality and ``caching transactions'' need to be perm. separated."
mod6: rb ticket list -- just use add/edit/remove as needed.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ? << you certainly can feel free to help me round out the t
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> speaking of coolies mod6, asciilifeform et al: anyone ever use a hexbit drill chuck to make holes using an impact driver? << not sure if I've ever done that specifically. done a lot of impact/air-ratchet wrench work on cars. tons of misc shit with drills.
mod6: *deal
mod6: mircea_popescu: cool, good dela.
mod6: cool. thanks man.
mod6: ok. we'll work something out. no problemo.
mod6: jurov: what if one doens't have a coinbr account?
mod6: anyway, thanks, we'll talk 'round month end then to get it figured out.
mod6: i suppose that can be arranged.
mod6: lol
mod6: or, if you'd rather i signed a statement saying such, i can do that when they get distributed.
mod6: so just take your coinbr fee and forward the rest to the btcf addy if that's ok?
mod6: but i'd like to send the proceeds to The Bitcoin Foundation
mod6: i haven't, yet. but i wrote an article. so i presume they will give me a few.
mod6: Cool jurov, when they are distrbuted (month end?), just hit me up.
mod6: thanks BingoBoingo
mod6: when i come up with a scheme i'll mention it in here.
mod6: all you can do at this point is just drop a link into the notes section, but it needs to scale more than that. thinking about it...
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, agreed. have been thinking about how to incorporate all of the findings thus far.
mod6: Does that seem more accurate asciilifeform ?
mod6: %p trb 3
mod6: %e trb 3 I "Further investigate a solution for mem leak/fragmentation" "An OOM error occurs from mempool tx's that are never deallocated. A well defined and researched plan need to emerge from this investigation."
mod6: ah, ok
mod6: :]
mod6: thanks for checking it out and letting me know.
mod6: ok. i'll think on this, there's something we can do, im sure.
mod6: hey, sorry to interrupt this. but one of my buddies is buying a house downthe road, and i gotta to view it here in like 2 minutes. but i'll be back all day after that.
mod6: Ok, very solid points here.
mod6: Right.
mod6: ok, yeah, on the cli version you kind of have tons of space because IRC line isn't a thing.
mod6: and that is a fair point
mod6: and that may be because it didn't see the closing "
mod6: yeah looks like it didn't get added
mod6: ah. ok..
mod6: shinohai: thanks!
mod6: hrm. i'll have to see what I can do about that -- not sure if i can make it longer than a canonical irc line, but it should be at least that long
mod6: oh really?
mod6: (like in the notes section and that would give some traceability to who is doing what and who can get blame)
mod6: ok. so what I was thinking, at least for the quick/dirty method was that lord of a project would update tickets with peoples' submitted vpatches linked either from the ML or if/when accepted. doesn't only relate to TRB obv.
mod6: ah
mod6: but we're not there yet anyway.
mod6: these separate fields can help with sorting and reporting and all that... especially.
mod6: ok sounds good. thought maybe you were thinking about adding a date field. and btw, any of these things can really be added without too much trouble at all if we really find a dire need for them in the future.
mod6: :]
mod6: oh, how? people often miss deadlines, especially developers. im just as guilty as anyone.
mod6: and anything over a 20 should be certainly broken down into smaller chunks if possible.
mod6: in scrum people estimate tickets not based on time, but how "large" they think a story is or might be. and they use fib numbers for this -- typically: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 20
mod6: we all know how that usually goes.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 should be done BY X. so i know who to chase. << I think if someone wants to put their name on a ticket, ... ok, and they can put a completion date in there.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also important, suppose i want to split up a ticket later. what should i do, delete and re-enter ? << so saythat UCI ticket 7 needs to become two seperate tickets and the original didn't capture what it was supposed to capture; i would just make a new ticket, and then edit the existing one to reform what would be or seem correct.
mod6: yeah, i like the idea of just editing the ticket to "DONE"
mod6: the latter for traceability
mod6: but i was thinking that it would either be removed from the tree, OR, would simply just have something edited in the subject. like "DONE: Blah Blah ticket for something"
mod6: and the idea of "done" can be a different field.
mod6: err, meaning, if it is assigned to a person already.
mod6: irl, it seems like if a guy isn't assigned a ticket, he rarely looks at it.
mod6: mircea_popescu: so during development, i decided not to allow assignment for tickets; i wanted to encourage all to look at tickets and possibly propose solutions or changes to even patches submitted (denoted in the notes section??)
mod6: werd
mod6: ok so for future ref just set no wrap and it should be fine then?
mod6: yup thanks for updating
mod6: *shrug*
mod6: im sortof overly paraniod about 80 col wraps. if i set a command in vim to do it for me, i feel like its not always consistant.
mod6: sorry, i must have overlooked that
mod6: also, i think it may read a bit better if "proposed" becomes "proposals"
mod6: oh, i typically wrap at 80 by hand.
mod6: thx though. tried to just keep it short/sweet.
mod6: oh, alright. i was just looking at some others that had paragraph tags in there. wasn't sure.
mod6: ah cool! Thanks BingoBoingo
mod6: thats 2x, gotta be careful or it'll stick :D
mod6: lol
mod6: He did spend 1 year with the Whalers
mod6: Red Wings
mod6: asciilifeform: legendary Canadian hockey player.
mod6: Yeah, he was 88.
mod6: pete_dushenski: Gordie Howe died :/
mod6: <+davout> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480051 <<< seems intuitive enough to me << ah ok thanks davout ☝︎
mod6: yeah.
mod6: hmm. ok. i gotta run here for a bit. will think on it a bit more. thanks!
mod6: because goal with this is not just to flow in to one direction, the goal is to recurse and solve from the leaves to root.
mod6: yeah, i see how that, especially in this case as opposed to V does warp the mind a bit.
mod6: just not sure if anyone else will see it that way. but i guess that doesn't quite matter either.
mod6: which is why I think your graph for UCI is correct.