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diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 1872 useful bits in 3920-bit rsa, confirmed
mircea_popescu: ok, so this back of a digital envelope seems to suggest we want : 1. fixed size 1470 byte rsa packets, made to work with 3920-bit rsa (of which i presume the useful message size to be 1872 bit, diana_coman plox to confirm maffs ?). such a packet has then 1696 bits spare for e and bullshit. ☟︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 11.5
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 15:50 mircea_popescu: anyway, i have no intention to deal with udp flood at gameserver level.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 490.666666667
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.12716763006
mircea_popescu: diana_coman 2944 bit rsa keys, meaning 1384 bit usable message space in the rsa packet ? with oaep and everything ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1500(ethernet frame) - 20 byte (ip header) - 8 byte == 1472
mircea_popescu: ( and btw diana_coman it's entirely possible this will mean republic might well inherit the format, seeing how the problem we are dealing with isn't of our own make -- others will run into it too.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are no frames bigger than 1500 ( aside from exotic lans )
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well, possibly. iirc we didn't specifically check for that.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, uhm, they made it through - presumably fragged though?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 20:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform typical pc has the following situation : 64 bit registers, 128 bit memory, 1024 bit disk sectors, 64 mb video buffers, and atop sitting a drunk driver who thinks 8 bits are a byte.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 23:03 mircea_popescu: it's bullshit all the way down, "the 4096 bit block gets cut into 16 sub blocks to be fit into rotorizers that cut each block into 64 bits and process with their 4 bit s boxes". because we're from the fucking cartoons.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:27 mircea_popescu: what it is is certainly <1kb say. wasting the occasional portion of a kb is not so unlike wasting the occasional portion of a 64 bit register to represent a boolean value.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 14:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the attacker sends you sequence-1 packets. and you hold them. and as i said, "doesn't take so much work to ask me to hold 16gb of chunks."
asciilifeform: aha! i dun hate mircea_popescu's algo because his name starts with m!111 i simply rtfm'd...
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 14:30 mircea_popescu: this must-have magical packet of 16kb is extremely rare -- basically only sent when new client making new account.
asciilifeform: rereading http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857215 -- if you actually gotta take 'new rsa key' from allcomers, and there is no way to have'em know a seekrit bitstring prior , then yes afaik it is impossible to do better than mircea_popescu's algo. ( it is unclear to me what's to prevent enemy from swamping your system with new acct requests and giving you 9000 TB of rsa keys to store, but possibly i missed a detail ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you see a way out of this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: realize that the linux frag reassembler doesn't give you anything near GB buffer
mod6: ben_vulpes: bitcoind has been stopped, and lovelace has been shutdown with `shutdown -h now`. Feel free to pack it up whenever you're ready. Thanks.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: imho i described the problem with using linux's fragger/defragger in sufficient detail, would rather not clutter the log with a repeat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm if this is so, then i have nfi why you'd want to try an' shorten packets
asciilifeform: diana_coman: given that you have rsa in there also, how do you intend to make'em shorter ? or is this strictly re the serpent payloads
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, cool; well, it's been 4 months being digested hopefully by everyone around so evolution makes sense!
asciilifeform: ultimately it's diana_coman's proggy, not mine, i can only recommend. imho fixed packets make the coad 9000x simpler, and simplify crapola filtration also. but if diana_coman's application absolutely gotta vary the lengths, then do it..
mircea_popescu: diana_coman working on it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: a frame is a frame, short packets still occupy one,.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun think there exists still on planet3 an isp that actually charges per-byte
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote the item originally for gossipd experimentations. udp gives a max practical packet length ( what it is , remains to be determined ) and if given proggy's protocol needs variably-sized ones, you can pad with rng.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851192 ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the trb observatory, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/10_2_ProcessBlock.txt
asciilifeform pictures ben_vulpes's texan fort
mod6: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is bringing this with him to texas. He said he'd be able to have it up and running in a rack down there by mid-November.
mod6: ben_vulpes: I am shutting down 'lovelace' (the second tbf node) now.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes updatered, thx
ben_vulpes: those reluctant to diddle /etc/hosts without seeing signed material first may: curl --header 'Host: cascadianhacker.com' 216.151.13.77/dns_update.txt
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 21:17 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , also give signal re whether you want the newer iptables-enabled kernel to go on your boot sd , when we take the boxen down ( iirc we already did mod6's )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 21:14 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , let BingoBoingo & asciilifeform know when is good day to take down yer units and copy contents to new drives.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 06:54 mircea_popescu: i never heard of obesity miscarriage before.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nice. << New drive cases transfer substantially more heat, have much more mass, surface area, etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman & mod6 will get brand new disks when they signal readiness for downtime
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only in hand, but BingoBoingo is in there nao and we revived 2 units and nao doing lobbes's
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in asciilifeform's torture room , term is 'lithium battery'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta the main thrust behind asciilifeform's interest
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaactually the koreans make one for desk
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not aware of colour in irc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that would rock.
asciilifeform: i palpate'em, to borrow a mircea_popescuism, 'in both holes' !11
asciilifeform: iirc hippo-skin whip was mentioned in a mircea_popescu piece re egypt pre-british
asciilifeform: i've nfi, i have not seen mircea_popescu's inventory, dunno which is dragon's tail
asciilifeform: reminds me of... i gotta have seen it in a mircea_popescu article, can't think where else could've. that thing in egypt, made from hippo leather
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes : if yer feeling brave, can also keep old drive on usb2 jack, as auxiliary storage, see just how long they live...
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , also give signal re whether you want the newer iptables-enabled kernel to go on your boot sd , when we take the boxen down ( iirc we already did mod6's ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: dd_rescue .
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , let BingoBoingo & asciilifeform know when is good day to take down yer units and copy contents to new drives. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, these feel like the sort of thing mircea_popescu could fill up a sack with and use for beating passers-by. The old ones not so much
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu refers to it as 'the killer micro problem'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect you'd have the 'reboot' problem, no.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideas come ~24/7. i was speaking of unrolling-into-concretes
mod6: mircea_popescu: I actually do read the logs, but -- again, I wish I had more time to really grok the logs. Instead of just snarf them and move on to the next thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 00:05 mircea_popescu: i kinda have in the back of my mind this impression that poor shane's ended up stuck with a large number of loose ends to juggle.
mod6: mircea_popescu: true
asciilifeform: mod6: ben_vulpes's patch is on my conveyor tho.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 16:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856376 << yet new ones are born every day. thousands of girls underwent puberty as we sat and spoke today, are they also excluded, "all women that'll ever be are already here" ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856553 << lol, seems to me that we regularly argue opposite sides of this puzzler. but yes, i'd luvv for there to be somewhere a hidden reserve of sane folx who will join republic and do quality work. but somehow they aint here yet, and i'm inclined to agree with mircea_popescu's much earlier hypothesis, where they either dun exist or are buried beneath such thick pantsuit iceberg that no drill pres ☝︎
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, ok, which is basically how the charter reads in that section 0x2 para 3.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 00:07 mircea_popescu: mod6 do you want to name someone to join into the chairdom ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i misread, mod6 asked to be relieved of the duty.
asciilifeform: but i read orig mircea_popescu observation as opposing very notion of collated log.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aint that whole idea of 'system log' to begin with ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:25 diana_coman: I think that's precisely what the chairs need to figure out: "what might fit under this " and be useful, ofc
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:52 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856366 << imo syslogger should be abolished altogether. before systemd it wasn't obvious to me what it is -- but now, plenty obvious. "unified logging" terrible idea.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:23 asciilifeform: diana_coman: that's uncharted territory..
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:22 diana_coman: asciilifeform, my understanding is that tbf's scope is not limited to trb, nor focused specifically mainly on trb
mod6: Thanks diana_coman.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm sold.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:35 asciilifeform: at the risk of 'bureaucratism', i'd suggest to mod6 & ben_vulpes to amend charter to explicitly make clear the duties of the chair, prior to swapping chairs. but would be curious to see what mircea_popescu thinks.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:35 mircea_popescu: but yes, personal slaves of sultan. and i can see why, and i thought thence all the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856322 style comments. what i can't see is why they'd make them boys. orphans or not, there's still http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ that controls.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 09:04 diana_coman: phf, please add the fix patch to eucrypt http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/#selection-391.0-399.38
mod6: Thanks mircea_popescu, and all. Nothing personal taken.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856363 << iirc you wrote it.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 04:01 asciilifeform: it's a q for the current board. i suggested to ask hanbot because hanbot is known as a very skilled organizational hand, and not currently running anyffing ( aside from, possibly, mircea_popescu's janissary corps )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:07 mircea_popescu: the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support the otherwise spurious pretense that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed this to support his tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Number appeared on the graphic layover BEFORE coming out of the shuffling ball hopper
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 13:57 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trb observatory : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/10_1_ProcessBlock.txt << anatomy of a 'noad behind'. whole night zoolag fed nuffin but 'bastards', and incl. by friendlies, in continuation of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856264
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 15:24 mircea_popescu: and if experience with the empire of "i just want to" lazy idiots is any guide, they're DEFINITELY not going to "get in trouble for buying microsoft". because "nobody could have predicted" and "they were just doing their job" which "hey man, it's just a gig, it's not my life!"
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider eg that pizarro doesn't need to undertake the (significant, and unbounded) cost of writing "code of conduct" or "terms of service" or any of the other nonsense. things have changed. nude bitcoin is dangerous in the sense discussed in 2012, but bitcoin-as-currency-of-the-republic eminently usable today.
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu had an article re 'only those are alive, whom words can move' )
asciilifeform: recall the thread where mircea_popescu observed 'y'know those 'hard' murder cases, where detective sits an' thinks, well guess what , in new york they no longer do that, either obvious suspect or they shelve it nao' ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the thread with the physicists.
asciilifeform: at the risk of 'bureaucratism', i'd suggest to mod6 & ben_vulpes to amend charter to explicitly make clear the duties of the chair, prior to swapping chairs. but would be curious to see what mircea_popescu thinks. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun particularly care who in l1 does it, for so long as it keeps being done.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that's uncharted territory.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: right, pretty much all of the early vtronics work happened on tbf ml
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 04:35 mircea_popescu: every single insurance company in the world found itself genealogically related to insurers who made payments in the 1800s, resulting in a legal battle settled sometime in the 90s, ~90% award to the finding crew. the leader of which went into hiding soon thereafter, in the middle of various legal wranglings with his backers and crew.
asciilifeform: and yea it's http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks/tree/bitcoin/src/main.cpp#L1362 that trb (and for that matter heathens, but fuck'em) doesn't respond to sanely.
asciilifeform: at some point i'ma try ben_vulpes's 'moar aggress' variant, which cures this.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trb observatory : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/10_1_ProcessBlock.txt << anatomy of a 'noad behind'. whole night zoolag fed nuffin but 'bastards', and incl. by friendlies, in continuation of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856264 ☝︎☟︎