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cazalla: (which means i'd root her but not tell anyone here)

cazalla: the one on the left? ah i'd pass

shinohai: I'd still hit it.

cazalla: i dont mind fat ass and the chubby look, just no stomach over hang

punkman: the only good photoshop in there http://i.imgur.com/S3hVcLH.jpg

cazalla: yeah i think so too trinque

cazalla: BingoBoingo, i dunno, the one on the left looks better imo http://i.imgur.com/feDYI0V.jpg she is just about right for me minus about 10kg

cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237346 <<< i don't shave and i buzz my ever balding scalp.. i guess that makes me fearful of t3h gh3y then ☝︎

ben_vulpes: i don't vote and i will vote for him

trinque: no I bailed

ben_vulpes: i still wish that i didn't

ben_vulpes: i didn't know about editable divs today

mircea_popescu: i think so too

ben_vulpes: <trinque> watch her end up lapping me << scheme is what i threw the new girl at the shop

trinque: I feel I've done a great service aiming her at the parentheses early

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 20:43:18; mats: wish i had that skill. would be useful for conversions between base16, base10, base8, base2 conversions when doing low level computering ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I don't even think the asciilifeform phillipino theory can explain this one. USG must be farming out spam to Montessori schools nao. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i dunno redditard fucks as a result.

asciilifeform: i am reading this to the tune of billions of living things each saying 'i matter i matter chirp i matter'

trinque: reduces to "I matter" and I suppose any living thing making a sound is also saying that

asciilifeform: i can't wait for one of these tards to accidentally publish his madlibs template

asciilifeform: 'I admit there is value in running a node/mining, but certainly a community that claims to favor freedom should have the ability (and courage) to welcome a diverse range of users, even if they don't meet some arbitrary standard set by an elitist insider.'

trinque: I've walked her through setting up both emacs and slime

asciilifeform: i suspect that 99% of folks who think they 'hate lisp!111!!111' were created by the harmful delusion that any meaningful work can be done without emacs+slime or the exact equivalent

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 02:12:38; trinque: I am actually going to throw her at common lisp *first* and see what happens

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-08-2015#1237609 << let me know if you discover either of these. i've always wanted. ☝︎

gernika: mod6 I applied asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.patch

gernika: Does it take a while to get past 367850? Or might I still be stuck...

mod6: oh i just deleted a ')', im screwed.

mod6: Oh, i didn't notice you could actually edit the examples. neat.

mats: oh. i was expecting some kind of output

trinque: actually I misspoke, put The Little Schemer in her hands first

trinque: I am actually going to throw her at common lisp *first* and see what happens ☟︎

trinque: I told her that was exactly the right ordering of the two

asciilifeform: (thingie which lets you build a c proggy for, i shit thee not, ~stackless+heapless~ machine. as in 0 bytes of addressable ram)

asciilifeform: i'm also fond of cramming things in rom

asciilifeform: i try to explain this point to folks and nearly always fail

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd be delighted to learn how 2 is solved. but the full story can wait for 3 if you like

mircea_popescu: 1 is readily surmountable by abstraction. i know how to do this. (you may think you are the first to meet the problem - you are not. scripts are sold in show biz all the time etc). 2. is readily solved, whether you like to or not, and 3 yes.

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:36:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237165 << i have no problem with s.nsa offering a catalog of 0days for sale in bitcoin. write it up.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-08-2015#1237481 << this is more difficult than mircea_popescu might appreciate. for one thing, i do hardware, where merely the ~fact of~ a usable hole existing is half the secret - once you say, credibly, folks know precisely where to look; the other half of it is that i am in the wot neither of folks buying nor of folks brokering; and the third 'half' is that any attempt at this will hav ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and by 'run' i mean properly, honest-to-goodness run. with all the peripherals working.

asciilifeform: to this i will add that pretty much anything with an amd on it will run.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other news - they've made a new extra dark chocolate icecream. i can't explain it.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237275 << http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea+asked+you+anything || that thinbg where alf discusses the actual meaning of "who're you" which i can't now find. ☝︎

mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-08-2015#1237505 << yes. you are the first white person i have encountered that knows this ☝︎

mircea_popescu: just like the upside of picking sane girls to fuck isn't "that hot blondie" but "i fucked over a thousand women in my life, most of whose names i don't remember, and yet i never had a venereal disease". that's the upside.

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 16:44:22; phf: i think that's the biggest advantage NSA has incidentally, because they can print money, they can probably just spin up a team for every single "core dump on a funny input" and bring it to a point where it'll successfully eat a shellcode. older salaried reversers simply don't have time or desire for that sort of stuff. that's in software world anyway.

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 16:37:05; phf: when was that exactly? because i stopped following infosec in 2003 (i think last toorcon i've been to was 2005) and looking at it now not much has changed. the releases are definitely a lot less interesting, because of the 0day market, but when i ragequit it was the same shit. weak releases by pushy guys in faux military gear as a norm, occasional interesting stuff from the usual suspects and practically negati

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237179 << i am broadly in agreement with him. last time i went to one there was a pr&modelling conference nearby and i ended up just hanging out with the gals. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 16:25:17; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ... if you find it you can sell it. << not quite. i, for instance, can't sell it

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237165 << i have no problem with s.nsa offering a catalog of 0days for sale in bitcoin. write it up. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237144 << this is so retarded. so if i'm in the business of selling 0 days i better hire anothr white man to keep a stable of enslaved african women to provide me with for the purpose of arbitraging this insanity ? ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 14:46:10; funkenstein_: The man has a great point, but, where did this thing start that humans are not animals, and in what crib do I find it to strangle it?

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 14:06:12; asciilifeform: i am not a clairvoyant, cannot read your hard disk ! gotta give me something to work with.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237054 << i thought you were a reverse engineering hacker, what scammery is is this! ☝︎

trinque: yeah, I had a hex clock on my taskbar for a bit

kakobrekla: and i wasnt doing any more math.

kakobrekla: hm when i was a kid a had a base2 wrist watch

mats: wish i had that skill. would be useful for conversions between base16, base10, base8, base2 conversions when doing low level computering ☟︎

trinque: I'll take a machine for that

mats: in his head, mind you: i spat out e.g. 253 * 35923 and it took him ~3s to give me an answer

mats: he did a buncha 3x5 (digit) calculations for me to prove he could do it, i was impressed

mats: i met a guy that took abacus classes and placed p high at competitions in junior high

trinque: yeah, that's what I've read

asciilifeform: aaaaand i'm still a loonie for calling for, among other things, a cpu with hardware bounds checking.

phf: mircea_popescu: i see the parallels, yeah i was insulated from that sort of mentality, but i was also insulated from the stupid and the lazy

asciilifeform: imagine, i thought, what an advance, you can finally emulate a proper pc on itself

asciilifeform: when i was, decade later, we had proper emulator

ag3nt_zer0: on another note I was doing some reading on the history of astrology yesterday and came across the "fact" that originally, in mesopotamia, what became astrology began as a simple catalog of omens, reflected in "if this, then that" statements... this avenue was state-sponsered too... just got me thinking of the "evolution" of this logic and how these same statements are now applied to exclusively reductionist pragmatic mat

mircea_popescu: i can see that.

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 09:36:42; cazalla: guy's a barber too but just like his offer to take what i want from his backyard, i turn down offers for haircut and straight razor shave

ag3nt_zer0: I wouldn't want it any other way

mircea_popescu: this was a major thought cleavage, which i noticed at the time, and i noticed that people were actually visibly... peculiar about other things.

phf: no, my school was ran by a strong georgian woman pretty much on her terms. 35A 35B starting classes were reduced to 12A 15B by 12th grade, through gentle "your kid is just not right for this place. i suggest you remove him, because it might get very HARD for him to study here very soon"

mircea_popescu: phf no no, i dunno if you ever met these or not, but

mircea_popescu: phf don't get me wrong, i'd love for it to work. i'd also love for the "not beating kids makes them smarter" and "all education should consist of is encouragement" nonsense to work.

phf: mircea_popescu: yeah, i've not reevaluated it since the last time i thought it, which was 2005 or so

ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: a while back we were having an exchange about tienanmen and it's relation (or non) to the fall of the wall... I have looked a bit in the direction you indicated but haven't found so much... you got any rcommended paths for that ?

asciilifeform: 'I sort of hope she crashed and burned on this one..'

mircea_popescu: meanwhile the top google result for i will pay for your tits is still me.

mircea_popescu: but i liked the part about "he abandoned twitter so is no longer reachable"

asciilifeform: i was playing with a hp200lx, it is orders of magnitude more responsive than 'iPnohe' etc. for note taking, text editing, spreadshits, etc

phf: mats: well, i actually meant the opposite. classes of attacks can be eliminated by not using c. i think that majority of the attacks come from leaky abstractions. there's no <string> in c, but there's a null terminated memory region. there's no <sql> in perl, but there's a character array with sql text in it. one of the solutions is to plug abstraction holes on a level of the language, in such a way that you can't not use improved abstractions ☟︎

mats: hey, i've maintained that its about increasing cost. not preventing the barbarians from entering.

mats: dunno man. maybe i'm lost in the matrix.

mats: i didn't say that. but _the cost of attack can still be substantially increased_

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 14:56:38; funkenstein_: perhaps in some way similar to simply passing around a massive virtual machine file (yes I'm fishing for a correction on this)

mats: as I think more about it, there may yet be a software solution... will share later. asciilifeform will not like it - this involves, inevitably, a multitude of mitigations

phf: mats: there's a systematic solution to an entire class of problems. in the poor people world perl "solved" buffer overflows on string input by closing the abstraction leak, meanwhile introducing its own leaky abstraction, i.e. string injection attacks. the solution to that problem was known for 50 years now, specifically structured/validated data

mats: burn the thing to the ground, I know

mats: the problems phf speaks of, which I imagine are endemic vulns in software

asciilifeform: i know a fellow who used to work in one of those farms

phf: i think that's the biggest advantage NSA has incidentally, because they can print money, they can probably just spin up a team for every single "core dump on a funny input" and bring it to a point where it'll successfully eat a shellcode. older salaried reversers simply don't have time or desire for that sort of stuff. that's in software world anyway. ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: perhaps my perspective is a little skewed because i do hardware.

phf: i dunno, i think people sit on a lot of denial of service, but developing that to a working exploit takes time and unhealthy level of juvenile ocd.

asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make is that: i hypothesize that the '0day market' consists very largely of folks who are sitting on 0day and not 'marketing' at all ☟︎

asciilifeform: for the record, i have never attended such an event

phf: when was that exactly? because i stopped following infosec in 2003 (i think last toorcon i've been to was 2005) and looking at it now not much has changed. the releases are definitely a lot less interesting, because of the 0day market, but when i ragequit it was the same shit. weak releases by pushy guys in faux military gear as a norm, occasional interesting stuff from the usual suspects and practically negative desire to come up with systemati ☟︎

asciilifeform: also fewer 'eiffel towers built of matchsticks' - elaborately labyrinthine 'rube goldberg' machines, like the last third of that slide deck, which ultimately sum to 'i read a 486 manual taken from a dumpster'