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asciilifeform: the one other thing i neglected to explain anywhere is how to make the wot
asciilifeform: (as in, can you guess, without explanation, why i included it)
mod6: i know nothing of python... although from reading your code, i'm starting to grasp it.
asciilifeform: other than various fixes / cleanups, the 1 thing i still wanna add to 'v' is file histories
mod6: well, the 2 i just mentioned come last. is there any reason on the sort order of the last 2? or i just need to grok toposort more?
mod6: ok, i think i get it. neither patches/asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch or patches/asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch have any dependants (d's)
mod6: i suspect that I'll need to look at the touched files and the hashes to make sense of this.
mod6: yeah, i don't grasp that part fully yet. but it does make sense from genesis up through patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.4-goodbye-win32.vpatch
mod6: i was mechanically cross checking the output file checksums against the v054-TEST2 bundle and noticed that i didn't come out with -verifyall in there. was really wondering for a minute lol.
mod6: but in this case, it is. i get it. sorry.
mod6: i see, when i check flow, i see that 'verifyall' comes /after/ maxint
mod6: asciilifeform: qq, I was under the impression that when using press, if I picked something like 'maxint_corrected', it would patch all the way up through that one. but it didn't seem to apply the -verifyall patch? or do I misunderstand how its supposed to work? http://dpaste.com/1J2BS40.txt thoughts?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i still can't figure out why they are (?) in debt. am i thick or what
asciilifeform: i just gave them more than kilo personally not long ago
asciilifeform: i mean, they are more or less the only mass vendor of coinz in usa
mircea_popescu: wehn i linked to it, i linked to an item put there a week or so ago.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have written on many occasions, that this (the froth) is why the very youngest of the folks worth anything in computerdom are circa early 1980s
mircea_popescu: had i met linux as a boy i'd be pissing with froth on the entire stupid stack.
mircea_popescu: that behaviour is certainly the l;argest contributor of wy i am even vaguely interested in computers at all
mircea_popescu: and i'm like..... mmmkay nevermind. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so i've been sort-of idly thinking maybe monero is actually something should be taken seriously. then BingoBoingo dug up https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical/303/a-formal-approach-towards-better-hard-fork-management
gernika: I would have checked then even numbered answers
gernika: I sadly DID NOT KNOW about this program in junior high and highschool.
asciilifeform: reversing 'derive' is this thing that i come back to for a week or two every other year or so.
asciilifeform: btw i've always thought it would be interesting to get the lisp src of derive (yes) out of the exe
asciilifeform: i encourage folks here to mirror it, somewhere.
gernika: asciilifeform - I haven't tried it. Running it on an old thinkpad. Got msdos 6.2 working in parallels - but parallels is literally a virus.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1257852 << you're telling me like i'm the one shitting in the broadband lol ☝︎
phf: what isn't. at some point freedos was legit in a poc||gtfo kind of way, i.e. "we did it for the lulz", but now it's positioned as the only legitimate way to run dos programs. that you of course purchased from GoG.
asciilifeform: there are some very serious folks who are working on having it be forgotten that a 486 was an entirely usable thing, and in many ways a superior cultural artifact, all things considered, than the computer you and i are sitting in front of today
asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder if 'freedos' is actually run by wreckers
gernika: I do not.
phf: i know that my computing rug is slowly being swept from under me
phf: i don't know how much of this concern is driving cause vs. purposes, i.e. real limitations experiences by you vs. building civilization from first principles anathema millenials style.
phf: that's not a problem that i'm facing though, since i don't know of diddle diesel engines (i'm sure they are but..)
asciilifeform: one time, out of idle curiosity, i looked into what it would have taken .ir to run natanz u refinery on not-winblowz
asciilifeform: and prolly six other common pharmacy items i can't recall immediately.
punkman: I never mixed the thing myself, but I saw a kid make a pretty big fireball once
phf: i thought twice before googling "негашеная известь бомба" just now, pretty sure on a list at this point. thought i suspect hanging out on b-a does that too
phf: oh man, i think we would build another version of "metal pipe + match shavings" every other summer
mod6: i've kinda heard this too - you buy a word from them that hits on certain brain based reactions. something like that.
phf: growing up on a dacha i remember putting quicklime (calcium oxide) into sealed containers with water. one time a friend of mine got his vein opened with glass shrapnel, my grandfather drove him to a hospital and that was the extent of drama, no national news, no "dangers of quicklime", no concerned mothers calling for bans
mod6: ok i'll give it a whirl.
mod6: Will work through some more of this tomorrow after I get the SoBA out.
mod6: asciilifeform: I took a look at v99 just briefly, so far, looks good. I dropped in my sigs from http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000158.html into ~/.seals along with the sigs/*.sig files that it comes with and I was able to genereate the following: http://dpaste.com/198XBTF.txt
ascii_field: i know how to run 'diff'.
ben_vulpes: why i find this amusing is left as an exercise to the logreader.
punkman: I'd say it is
ascii_field: i would offer to help kakobrekla but doubt that i could possibly improve on his process...
kakobrekla: on that note also let it be known i score bashes including links quite low for various reasons
kakobrekla: also often i end up checking the log if the bash can be framed better
trinque: ascii_field: I'll tell you what a professional pythonista does...
kakobrekla: occasionally i check the buffer and remove the bad ones, the good ones get re-read the next time and when i feel strongly enough about the one waiting the longest i approve a batch, as deep as it goes
kakobrekla: not at all, but i have a process for approving bashes ☟︎
ascii_field: and i shudder to think of 'professional pythonistas' and what they do.
ascii_field: i thought it was '1 to pull trigger'
ascii_field: ~almost~ as much as i hate perl.
ascii_field: i fucking hate the language.
trinque: it at least didn't take any fingers last night when I fired it up
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: didja ship 99K with the 100K version string still in or am i misunderstanding something?
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 21:44:12; trinque: shinohai: glorious... and then I notice the buttcrack tattoo
ben_vulpes: haha i was writing that one
pete_dushenski: or i should say : non-african
pete_dushenski: what am i, the fun police ?
trinque: just "yeah I'll take that one too" walmart style
trinque: least among skanks I've known
trinque: ^ openrc is damned fast, for whatever that matters, the boot-per-week or something I do
trinque: shinohai: glorious... and then I notice the buttcrack tattoo ☟︎
ascii_field: https://i.imgur.com/ChKc5CZ.jpg << eureka !
shinohai imagines it might look similar to this: https://i.imgur.com/u9MrIO6.jpg
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257660 <<< I'll get right on that. ☝︎
trinque: myup gconf, and there's another one I'm forgetting
trinque: dbus is among pulseaudio and other things I neuter the fuck out of my systems
jurov: trinque i have recently read about it.. apparently it does but you have to disable all access control to use it :D
trinque: meanwhile dbus really should have network connectivity (I'm going out on a limb assuming it still does not)
trinque: "I understand this is confusing and unexpected, but well, that’s UNIX…"
jurov: i dun see any such niggers around here
ascii_field: http://i.imgur.com/ibUaHil.gifv << sapping practice. ☟︎
ascii_field: i recently 'google street'-ed the spot where it stood. neither it nor any of the neighbouring cottages remain
trinque: I could easily see the point that the useful are always dangerous.
trinque: perhaps that's overly broad. I understand there to have been a time where one could experiment with radio equipment or do chemistry in their garage without being arrested.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea. but yes you're not the only one noticing this
trinque: I have a pile of tp-links; they're ok
jurov: since i happen to manage an email server already, if anyone in the wot is interested, can set up imap box
trinque: yeah, I'll admit it's a pain in the ass
mircea_popescu: some people dun wanna run servers. i know i spent a while deliberately not doing it.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 16:27:30; pete_dushenski: jurov: b-a pretty much lit the fuse for his conception, at least or so i theorise
shinohai: that is correct. When I finish this install I got going I'll try to make a new addy
shinohai: No jurov I actually bothered to make 2 xD
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 14:47:57; shinohai: Fuck i hit paywall again and still have no way to purchase credits.
mircea_popescu: what i said when i opened this entire dispute, specifically, http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-some-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/#selection-31.0-31.247 stands.
ascii_field: ^ perhaps i ought to explain. picture a patch mid-flow whose seal is annulled (removed, even if temporarily, from .wot)
ascii_field: well yes. but i put it in for a reason, because there are several things which i consider important which presently do not work correctly.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 14:35:22; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257088 << i don't know why mircea_popescu snipped out the comment with the 'todo' list, but one of the items in it was handling of broken chains. and of errors in general.
mircea_popescu: maybe i should stop being such a terrorist "destabilizing the situation"
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the market for gold is in the same situation.
trinque: I called american messaging about a pager... 400 message limit a month then overage, but at least they are up-front about it
mircea_popescu: oooo i see
trinque: well I would agree.
mircea_popescu: as i somehow suspect that rate comes with mbps after a number.