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mircea_popescu: why would anyone think such a thing ? it never worked in practice yet, but then again somehow "what works" ain't nobody's got time for.
asciilifeform: ( replaced with 'i can't believe it's not server' vpsolade )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 05:56 mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
ben_vulpes: and yeah, it's school. we don't have those where i come from, so i have a lot of work to do.
ben_vulpes: i don't come here to not be disliked, i come and work because it's challenging, the people here make me think and work hard and don't soft-pedal critiques, and because there's no other ideological island out there that wouldn't be exile after the past four years.
mod6: I think ben_vulpes is doing a very good job with all that he has coming at him, BingoBoingo and asciilifeform too. I don't want to replace anyone. Time is a luxury that we don't have. However, for a moment, if we step back and look at what we've accomplished so far, I think it's something to be proud of.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you're working all this out in your skull, but so far you're being a liability rather than an asset. why isn't this obvious ?
mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, let me tell you some things. a while ago you got these doods into a miserable situation they don't know how to extract themselves from, by ending up with 10x the warrants bingoboingo got. last i checked the dood actually moved down there.
mircea_popescu: mod6, technically you don't have stock as you're not listed ; but yes, you'd own whatever % regardless.
ben_vulpes: i don't have a clear picture of how pricing these would work either. part of my concern with bonds is that for a largely fiat denominated operation, interest on a btc loan can murder you if the fiat/btc rate goes up significantly, and fiat incomes stay the same.
ben_vulpes: what, you don't want facial brandings?
jurov: transferwise was better than paypal as they don't hold funds, they send each wire directly to my bank. if i used paypal, they have no problem to seize whole account.
mircea_popescu: well, fwis "something happened i can't be arsed to debug". which is a perfectly fine and even somewhat common failure mode.
jurov: i don't care.
mircea_popescu: wires aren't negotiable instruments.
BingoBoingo: Going on six weeks without a sighting. I was worried the Irish would reinfest the place, but that worry hasn't been realized
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:32 asciilifeform: and re time on site : i can't picture needing more than 3 days : 1 to sleep ( asciilifeform can't sleep on planes ) ; 1 to install fg and emplace the boxen into the rack ; 1 for overflow .
mod6: I guess, it may all be moot if we can't easily convert the BTC->USD to pay ze bills.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: aight, i'm going to be out of commission until mid may. i have comments for eulora that i need to type up (i got to sit down with a printout out over this weekend), i'm not sure about the amount of work required for the grapher until i have time to sit down and read v.pl (i sort of have an idea of how to implement it as part of vtools, but i'm not sure if the slicing is adequate), until i do i don't have a clear idea of how long it's going to take. i m
mircea_popescu hasn't had this much fun since highschool.
mod6: I'm fine to do another round of at least 5 (maybe more) -- but I was under the impression that asciilifeform was sort-of nearly btc-tapped out. But I didn't want to presume anything.
mircea_popescu: the fact that pizarro is actually well supported is the principal part, for its commercial credit. otherwise, it can't well spend even the 10 it has so far, 1.5 or so go to the rockchips, then it's all "get sales going".
mircea_popescu: eh, don't be silly.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 14:42 asciilifeform: ( retaining some knob for dynamic linkage isn't totally useless, it enables such things as valgrind ; but i'm quite prepared to lose valgrind, it is not really so necessary when writing asciilifeform-style -- heapless -- ada )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814286 << this isn't even such a terrible way to go about things. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, an' ftr, if your concern is that you're underweight pizarro, you can just as well do a second round. see if mod6 wants to either a) give it more btc or else b) move into a minority position. pizarro would certainly benefit from a larger piggy giving it more solidity etc, so you can do another 10-20 round either by yourself if mod6 is agreeable or else match together or any which old way. this isn't an u
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, im not gonna let them. i had no idea you didn't think it's the most excellent the idea. now that i do, hey.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, and it isn't so understood ?
mircea_popescu: but no, the universe 3 whereby "people made a 300 btc donation to unclear future goals" isn't really on the table.
asciilifeform: ( in case it isn't clear, asciilifeform views s.nsa as in effect a scientific collaboration / partizan front , with mircea_popescu , as asciilifeform does not expect to see any coin from it, i would like to be proven wrong about this, but i don't see selling >50 btc's profit worth of anything, esp not if the climb carries on )
mircea_popescu: and one step down, nsa doesn't even have to permit equity buys, can insist on being paid cash. i was permitting it because i thought it's desirable, but if you don't like it evidently won't happen.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's any intention of that. i certainly would vote against the measure.
asciilifeform: this isn't actually the problem, pizarro ( and other l1 folx ! thank you ! ) supplied asciilifeform in recent times with 100% of the btc-buying opportunities he can digest
mircea_popescu: if you do it as "myself" you get whatever chassis cost in btc in your pocket. if you do it as s.nsa you don't, is the logic ?
mircea_popescu: well how much pizarro has in the way of cash isn't changed by ooooh i see the problem, you hafta recirculate this is it ?
asciilifeform: cuz it doesn't have much in the way of cash.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't ~have to~ sell for shares. can sell for cash, why not ?
asciilifeform: is even supposing that mircea_popescu doesn't feel like raising his price again ) .
asciilifeform: i will admit however that i dun particularly like the endgame i see in this, where let's say s.nsa sponsors, produces, and sells to pizarro the iron for shares, ends up owning ~100% of pizarro, and asciilifeform doesn't see a dime of profit until ( merely for starters ) he can even afford mpex acct ( which is a major if, rather than a when, it is quite possibly that neither i nor anyone else will ever actually earn 50 btc , and this
asciilifeform: no particular problem, aside from the stark contrast between the 100% repeatability and hygiene of , e.g., FG, and the possibly nsa-laden ( i don't design arm crystal, or the pcb, or the switches, etc ) server
a111: Logged on 2016-01-16 20:58 phf: i find the framing odd, i thought purpose of s.nsa capital was to assist ascii in his b-a aligned, but essentially personal endeavor, which might potentially have a return. somehow it turned into "pay ascii by the hour". if ascii doesn't want to work on cardano, it's not a b-a way to coerce him, but if the project still exists, is being worked on, then money will be spent when there's something to spend it on, and there will be a
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814276 << yes, but this encounters the following problem : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-16#1373235 ; while obviously this won't go as far as "every idea alf has", nevertheless by the time alf makes objects, and independently from nsa, then what is nsa ? ☝︎☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814131 << transport for rockchiptron will be considerably cheaper than 2500, as i can't picture needing a whole week, nor 400 in overweight charge for the crates
mircea_popescu: in "things that willn't have happened 20-30 days from now, say security experts"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 10:15 spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days; if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't fucking care less.
mircea_popescu: they didn't have ecc. they ~implemented~ ecc exactly in the way described.
mircea_popescu: which ~also~ didn't have ecc ram.
asciilifeform: ( retaining some knob for dynamic linkage isn't totally useless, it enables such things as valgrind ; but i'm quite prepared to lose valgrind, it is not really so necessary when writing asciilifeform-style -- heapless -- ada ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814293 << issue is that the current arm64 build won't even ~run~ on any available machine ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 10:15 spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days; if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now.
asciilifeform: and re time on site : i can't picture needing more than 3 days : 1 to sleep ( asciilifeform can't sleep on planes ) ; 1 to install fg and emplace the boxen into the rack ; 1 for overflow . ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814131 << transport for rockchiptron will be considerably cheaper than 2500, as i can't picture needing a whole week, nor 400 in overweight charge for the crates ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: hatever qty, they don't seem to have an oem version ) , and lastly, cabling/fasteners
spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days; if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814099 <- hm, at least the one asciilifeform obtained did not run on my rockchip (arm arch) so I might need to look deeper into this as to why it didn't; at any rate: mind adding to your post the obtained gnat binaries so I try with them directly from you and then report what fails if anything? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: well i got the rewrite, but can't get mpwp to serve at /y/m/d/post
ben_vulpes: if any of the mpwpists in teh republic can lend a hand, i could really use it in getting urls that don't have index.php in them
ben_vulpes: i haven't updated the rc price since the pilot run, and that number assumed 1 transportation run per chassis since i'd not gotten the refutation of that number until just now.
mircea_popescu: the " the price inevitably dips" theory works A LOT better if it doesn't have to dip under 6k.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, wouldn't we be better served by making a proper run, 500 say ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 19:51 diana_coman: ave1, if I want to test your gnat-building script what steps should I follow so that I have at the end of it maximum info re what works/doesn't and in what context exactly?
ben_vulpes: seventeen lmfao i ain't seen more than 2 in a week in recent memory. far more irksome the raw advertisements from which i must sift actual and extremely rare bits of important mail.
ben_vulpes doesn't depreciate shredder blades on anything but the plastic; everything else gets packed into the prepaid return envelopes
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-16#356583 << have you pulled the opt out lever and contend it doesn't work or have you not yet
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#355976 << if you're burning usd that shoulda been billed to the corp, pls to do so. otherwise, you're burning the usd to...get btc? i don't really understand the objection.
mircea_popescu: because there really isn't anything else.
mircea_popescu: don't a) put yourself in situations where you're overpressured only so that b) you can complain you find yourself in situation of overpressure. whole fucking trick to management, that.
mircea_popescu kinda doesn't know when these are needed nowadays o.O
mircea_popescu: lobbes, a cool, so you don't need an introduction then.
mircea_popescu: it'd be indeed surprising if a) anyone selling useful electronics wasn't from china or b) anyone from china couldn't eat wires. and so there you go.
mircea_popescu: in general, the PERSONALIZATION of all relationships is the key to victory. yes, you met her at the casino bar, but this doesn't mean anything abotu the fucking casino bar.
asciilifeform: lobbes: it does. doesn't do anything for wires tho. and i looked in the docs, word 'wire' is only mentioned in re third-party sellers on lulazon being able to accept them ( on own power ) as payment
mircea_popescu: solutions abound ; but yes they don't fall in the eager open mouths, have to be actually applied to work.
mircea_popescu: you think amazon doesn't have exactly the same problems as pizarro ?
asciilifeform: it doesn't, however, it wires tho. would need a specialized 'localbitcoinist' afaik .
mircea_popescu: how did dc bank account morph into "BingoBoingo's piggy" and why can't you have the same process for, eg, ordering shit off amazon.
mircea_popescu: and if it does that, you got an item. remember the first actually deeded item, smickles' report re i don't recall which scamfest ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, considering how little your needs are (what was it, a few k's worth of monthly wire ?), if indeed the whole of localbitcoins can't provide against hard currency, THAT is a qntra lulz item right fucking there.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-28 07:42 mircea_popescu: In Bitcoin this responsibility is based not in law, but fact. LocalBitcoins chose to fart on their plates and some of their weaker customers who trusted them are now ill. It doesn't matter where what was served was contaminated, but that LocalBitcoins served poison. Yes the consumers ought to have known better, but in the future knowing better means escewing a venue that sells turds as sausages on the virtue of both be
mircea_popescu: but in general, you can't leave this as a dangling pointer. it's a significant threat, gotta be defended in depth.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813816 <- rounding this up: tried it and yes, as expected, arm indeed but can't really use it since no musl ☝︎
diana_coman quit once a "workplace" with the exact: your idiotic problems won't be my problems anymore
mircea_popescu: we weren't discussing hard.
asciilifeform: can try the 'native' ( it prolly won't run, iirc it needs a musltronic linux )
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yes, but apparently can't bootstrap on arm
asciilifeform: aanyway lessee if this builds for folx who aren't ave1 & asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: "it works! it doesn't work! o wait!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, re other lulz, i can't imagine anyone can possibly regard "child pornography charges" / "sexual assault charges" etc brought by the criminal org as anything than shameful fabrications.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/us-alleges-some-guy-leaked-cia-tools-but-doesnt-allege-strong-enough-to-bring-charges/ << Qntra - US Alleges Some Guy Leaked CIA Tools But Doesn't Allege Strong Enough To Bring Charges
mircea_popescu: mod6, i don't even have a problem with the mb, per se, i mean holy hell there's trilema pages consisting of tables or novels or w/e the fuck. but that mb is <1% markup for the love of christ, not 99%.
mod6: I don't have many "friends" irl or anything, but once we have a landing page, will do what I can on my meat-side.
mod6: Yah, and possibly fg. I know there is a sentiment that orcs are not interested in fg -- however, there are people I've talked to who are pretty interested in that. Don't have coins to buy one, however, still, interest is there.
diana_coman: ave1, if I want to test your gnat-building script what steps should I follow so that I have at the end of it maximum info re what works/doesn't and in what context exactly? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't know of any method besides filter feeding. and do you know what's the primary ingredient for filter feeding ?
mircea_popescu: dorks don't even bother to crop the copyright notices off their "profile" pics.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 07:57 mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description."
mircea_popescu: consider for instance how the whole http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/04/17/rfc-euloras-communication-protocol-eucomms/#comment-1169 pile worked. we know things from there we don't know from what you're describing.
mircea_popescu: but you didn't do this in a useful way ; because there's, for instance, no way for your friends (such as, say, you from the future) to reference it! or for the op to see anything.