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mircea_popescu: this is in no substantial way different from the "Reisistance through culture" of the soviet "intellectuals" aka schmucks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can calculate the energy cannon firings release per firing. that goes into melting your platform.
mircea_popescu: it just seems so, until and unless you try to ... you know, emplace a cannon on it. "shit, it slides!!"
mircea_popescu: yet! wood makes fine boat ; some plastics cheaper, some composites somewhat better much more expensive. that's it.
mircea_popescu: yes, wood makes a very poor cpu ; lead sulphide better ; silicone-germanium mix even better.
mircea_popescu: different phenomena, with the former much narrower for good physical reasons.
mircea_popescu: look at tables of materials, comparing say young modulus and resistivity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform look, there's nothing wrong with this principle in principle, but electric performance and hydrodynamic performance are not the same thing
mircea_popescu: for that matter, recorded performance in both the time of venice owning the mediteranean and of portuguese empire in south china sea is not currently met by "performant" plastic boats.
mircea_popescu: far be itfrom me to insult your boyish dream of independence ; but let it be said that boats are boats and have been so for a long time now.
mircea_popescu: expensive wood is not a case of "hey, x team can never win, cedar lol"
mircea_popescu: people use plastic because cheaper plastic is cheaper than cheap wood, and there better.
mircea_popescu: nothing like the advantage doped silicone offers over old galene/lead whatevers.
mircea_popescu: the improvement plastics and composites (current generation, EXPENSIVE!) offer over selected historical wood is marginal, if at all present.
mircea_popescu: for the record, the hull design style of the vikings STILL IS! to this day! the best, fastest and so on.
mircea_popescu: and which has not produced any sort of improvement EVER!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ibm example isn't so good. the sort of phenomena that were conquered to produce the 1k chickens 1950-1990 are very fucking different from the sort of phenomena the boat has to encounter,
mircea_popescu: phf i have nfi what any of the terms mean as used, for the record. we're in plebeconfusionland.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the market for "boathouse" is composed of people who already own townhouse in large town ; also prepared to spend by the million.
mircea_popescu: you may be interested ; but the market for "sailboat" is composed of people who already own say a race horse, or sponsor a speed racing team etc ; they're ready to spend by the million.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no "practical instrument" that is the unworkable cross between a hammer and a screwdriver.
mircea_popescu: best i can discern from the unexpected in this latest convo, he's trying to do something that makes no sense for the market, a sort of ostrich-camel of epic proportions.
mircea_popescu: see, a sailboat, ie, the thing you run sail and rigging championships etc with ? that thing has no generator, because it's heavy. most have no engine either, except where legally required on occasion, and the presence of engine is disdained universally. etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, that's nonsense, no saving it. fuck, sailboat with plumbing ? wut ?
mircea_popescu: i also never attempted to live in my shoes, or judge shoes by how "livable in" they are.
mircea_popescu: i also sailed proper sailboats ; which have no plumbing. under discussion here, both from the introduction of the article you quote, and from his "live in boat" general outlook, are pointedly NOT sailboats.
mircea_popescu: this sounds very much like an item made pre 1980 than post 1990.
mircea_popescu: equires one to become a contortionist. Another common problem is lack of space for both the arm (with which to work on things) and the head (with which to look at what you are doing), meaning that much of the work has to do be done “by Braille.”
mircea_popescu: to quote : "Boat plumbing systems are virtually never designed with ease of maintenance in mind; mostly they are an afterthought, not so much engineered as crammed together in any space that’s available. A very common problem is that working on them requires the use of tools—screwdrivers, channel locks, sockets with ratchets—but there is no room to wield these tools in the normal manner, and just about every operation r
mircea_popescu: engineering took a sharp turn to sanity sometime in the 80s wrt to this sort of "vacuum spherical chicken" issue.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno about his nonsense. every (admittedly, large, expensive) boat i've been in had detachable pannels. you first take the shit OFF, then fuck with the pipes gauges etc in the normal manner. yes it takes 3x as long as if you were doing house plumbing, but that's about it.
mircea_popescu never likes the results, but perseveres reading orlov linked material.
mircea_popescu: truly odd this theory, that they'd sell the paintings but not the girls.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here, beyazit ordered paintings made for his father by bellini (sent from venice at sultan's request) sold in the bazaar and enough with this dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except who did any political business among the baths and wet tits ?! not really how it worked ; presuming the girl's not accepted back in... which is perhaps where the rub is.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as "why is e < 3??" "no reason" in nature, and from there in engineering. there isn't really such a thing in society, and from there in culture.
mircea_popescu: the basic, and really only, rule of hermeneutics is : that then you've understood a text when, far from its shortcomings appearing inexplicable errors, they become the actual pillars upon which the damned thing is constructed, and what originally seemed to you sensible and structural takes its true place as accidental.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so. culture makes more sense, on average, than any bit of engineering.
mircea_popescu: (mehmed, like most other sultans, was a bit of an atheist)
mircea_popescu: with a little training they'll be more of a tool of state than the dubious religion
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yet they gave the nobles caftans, ie, "here's this holy piece of clothing, worth so much more than the fabric and cut to you because i'm giving it"
mircea_popescu: you should read the poetry of the time, they were pretty drunk on a sort of adolescent male idealism perhaps best rendered as sportsfan-hiphop in today's terms.
mircea_popescu would have simply sold the girl, but then again /me is no turk.
mircea_popescu: but the principle of the thing. "if you love her set her free" apparently means something else in ottoman turkish.
mircea_popescu: this item is not found in anglo historiography apparently.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, since i apparently fell in a barrel of reading old history, fellow describing "the cruelty" of mehmed 2 : "for some books stolen from his secretary he punished an entire village to be moved to asia ; for a stolen watermelon he took the life of a suspected janissary, and he did not back down from killing with his own hand the most adored being in the harem, who had shackled him with her exceptional beauty to the p
mircea_popescu: anyway, the code || ideology parallel should be pretty obvious. yes people run other [from their wot] people's text, but this is neither obligatory nor particularly encouraged. on the contrary, with ideology as with code as with "wot maintenance best practices" and as with any other text, heterogeny is the key to victory.
mircea_popescu sees in the scrollback that the fact of there being no log has already been mentioned :D
mircea_popescu: not that it's much of a concern, there's exactly ONE customer doing eth on poloniex. but as a theoretical thing.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller and if there's two chains surviving, customer gets one poloniex gets to keep the other ?
mircea_popescu: so to sum up, the process is more like washing than anything else. gunk removal.
mircea_popescu: laziness is a natural want, and unavoidable. (no, wanting your children to survive is not natural, but perverse, and a major part of what makes kant's timber crooked.)
mircea_popescu: something that may appear as a subcase but i believe is not (not that the dispute is all that relevant) and in any case is more numerous is the jwz : the fellow that "just wants to" keep right on being lazy.
mircea_popescu: this is always and everywhere personal failure, sometimes a forced mistake (like the female's universal "wanting kids to survive", which is stupid but nevertheless part of her ample array of genital curses)
mircea_popescu: a few of them, recently called the "hopefuls" but otherwise simply the incarnation of evil, are capable of handling the statement of their assumptions, but are unwilling to separate themselves from what "they want", which is usually stupid but that's not something they're prepared to face.
mircea_popescu: obviously, most derps are, owing to fundamental genetic insufficiency, unable to handle the plain statement of their assumptions. these, we call cattle.
mircea_popescu: so the way deculturation works is, derp comes to tmsr, makes statements, which belie assumptions, which are explicitly stated BY someone in tmsr for the first time in derp's experience, and then rejected explicitly. sometimes a cause is presented, but this is not particularly "better" than none being offered. the burden is on the derp ANYWAY.
mircea_popescu: the psychopathology around "anonymity" is kinda facinating to watch.
mircea_popescu: actually, nsa is that incompetent, but that's besides the point.
mircea_popescu: "your buttons are not connected to anything in particular - please push them at will!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is the only way if you're going to have people with 0 in common use your thing.
mircea_popescu: (ie, it relied on you having a mental map of structure which it wouldn't render, or not render well. without it, it was unusable, which is why the illiterate couldn't use it well, didn't like to use it at all, and the "free form" html prevailed)
mircea_popescu: it was fundamentally flawed, among other things, by a structure externality.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; it's not a case of "omg gopher was so great". to get an idea, think "navigate web through excel spreadsheet"
mircea_popescu: anyway, one good thing gopher had that's still sorely missed was, you'd query someone's org and get their email.
mircea_popescu: afaik trilema is the ONLY place in the history of englush text that does this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, iirc it got killed by some derpy university trying to charge people ?