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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect it might have just been re-cut for convenience ?
mircea_popescu: wtf was with that guy, there's a montage worth a good 10 minutes of him gurning meaninglessly at the [mostly burning] scenery
mircea_popescu: 4th starts wqith scene of ilsa in shot with the bizarro "witch" woman (typical televisa shot, both face the camera, because totally this is how people interact) ; ends with balcony scene of the obnoxious derp + ilsa wedding.
mircea_popescu: fucking bond extras thinking themselves actresses wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: oh and speaking of
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504500 : so i was scammed into watching A TV SHOW. not substantially different from "pride and prejudice"/random televisa production. lotta spurious "interpersonal relations" shots without much logic interspersed with meaningless "warfare" shots without much logic.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: alternatively, send telnet/curl raw like sane ppl. wtf is postman.
mircea_popescu: it's the fundamental reason "correspondence" even exists as a thing in science.
mircea_popescu: and, to all unstubborn engineers and others present : when encountering a difficult problem, do try and EXPLAIN IT. in writing.
mircea_popescu: what i said was that a) ultimately all data is in point of fact data, and unless you're fucking around you will wish to look at the data ; b) that "Saving time" is only useful to people in a hurry ; and people thinking are seldomly in a hurry. rather than play with a desk weight while i try to comprehend x item, i might as well longhand its structure.
mircea_popescu: but you're discussing something that is entirely unrelated to what we were discussing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> if you heat the thing to 5000K and they come out << dude... gohead cancer to 500k. wtf is with you.
mircea_popescu: $google "fiat lux, zise cu gura plina, si pe loc se si facu lumina"
mircea_popescu: obviously, if you'e looking at a picture of snatch, catlols etc, best to scroll through. if you are trying to decide if there is or is not a nuclear base there ; a cancer cell there, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am willing to state that the reason nobody discovered anything interesting since the 90s or so is because they haven't.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm using that as a thinking support. which i usually am.
mircea_popescu: PeterL depends man. if i am involved in a process of trying to understand something, which may take many hours to many months, that i am saved five minutes for a typing out is not necessarily useful.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you wilfully ignore the benefit this exercise has for thinking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fu you're not to speak for humans! PeterL sure, and most people only write html by clicking on buttons. but i like to type my shit out.
mircea_popescu: but mind, i wasn't seriously proposing this be used ; just ad-hoc showing that it can be.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather use hoare - hor if forced to do something with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yes but it drives stupidity such as chomsky's rank nonsense about "what is gramatical". if you recall that recently linked essay.
mircea_popescu: how do i humorously say "male whore" as in, "curv", which is the never-seen but PERFECTLY GRAMMATICAL masculine of curva, whore ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. fucking javascript of a language if i ever saw one, this english thing. how do you people live ?
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is obviously that english is a language spoken by idiots, and it shows. but this isn't a large part and certainly not the largest part - i was doing the same thing in romanian. arguably much worse - people don't realise romanian is ALSO mostly spoken by idiots.
mircea_popescu: trinque anyway, trilema is a foremost example of "i have my set of defintions and you likely don't know what they are ; nor will likely figure it out through a whole article - shit's too fine."
mircea_popescu: i think we're sitting on a poorly understood oilpatch.
mircea_popescu: which is by itself an achievement which dwarfs the accomplishments of the entire current genewration of anthropologists and kinda takes my breath away.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know ? it's actuallty much huger than originally realised ; v is actually a model of knowledge in the general sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my shirt was weaved out of virgin tears tho!
mircea_popescu: (cycle kind 1 : when your definitions can be forced into a cycle by changing contexts ; cycle kind 2 : when your definitions can be forced into a cycle by changing spot in time)
mircea_popescu: is not a thing, no matter what it pretends), but it must have no cycles in it.
mircea_popescu: trinque the thing is that you're perfectly allowed to use your own, consistent definitions, even if they may contradict "the common sense" ; provided that a) they are consistent ~and stable enough so as not to change by context~ and b) you're capable of expliciting them on request and this will not contradict previous construction. ie - you may have any graph you wish (chiefly because anyone does anyway, "community consensus"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, they keep thinking "mp has one suit", so why not.
mircea_popescu: check out all the unexpected trouble one can stir up out of entirely left field dao.
mircea_popescu: the latter is how ambitious if incompetent lawyers lose 90% of the cases they lose.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to do this like i do it on trilema ; but it's another to do it in the face of contention.
mircea_popescu: which is culpable, seeing how the entire argument there hinged on the definition of number 2.
mircea_popescu: well no, but your assumption that you making a general statement will be taken as made rather than modified ad-hoc is not only unwarranted, but actually contrary to your declared preference.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not the one sprouting spurious absolutes, which is why i'm not the one with this problem. what picture.
mircea_popescu: mr "oh i'll never run someone's binary give me my ida!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in dispute is not the ownership part, but the niche part. it's not a niche!
mircea_popescu: well then most of them will be "tivo software owns tivo niche"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, we're counting proprietary shits now ?
mircea_popescu: for as long as this "music library" thing was a thing, winamp was the thing for it.
mircea_popescu: one of my secret lulz, for all the extra holes apple gets in here, nobody goes "stfu winamp"
mircea_popescu: the space between not getting laid and noticing you're not getting laid is short. the space from the noticing to the fixing however...
mircea_popescu: damn, i thought it was the black knight always triumphs.
mircea_popescu: who in his right mind would close a hole in teh mit budget ? by all means, let them succeed and keep on succeeding, like they've won the war in the middle east.
mircea_popescu: you're wide open, in a security sense, because of this notion of cleanliness.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the boat issue goes way the fuck deeper than you realise.
mircea_popescu: wait, ~I~ should clean up ? what am i, someone's wife ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh what do i care what they do. the idea here is "o look, a scamcoin nobody holds managed to hardfork. this is about as relevant to bitcoin as guy soiling his pants and then washing them in the sink. I AM ROVER GER AND I THINK ITS TIME FOR BITCOIN TO! "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well no one bothered to actually hold any of the tokens, either, so...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller rotate the lolcow ? preferably towards something with tits ?