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thepulledstring: gigavps when you get a list of your outstanding shares and who owns them you will be able to hunt out your shareholders who haven't made claims...
thepulledstring: gigavps, you also seem to be able to withstand the weather of this storm your company won't buckle
dub: purely because I don't want that fuckmeat keepign the 1.4btc or whatever I have in there
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
rdponticelli: smickles: Yeah, the legal system is just a hierarchy sustainer, and those already stablished don't tend to like the future competition
BTC-Mining: In any case, I'm off. Don't know why I've been paying 26$/month for TV I'm not using when I watch my shows online.
mircea_popescu: and when i say glbse is damaging, this is EXACTLY what i mean. will in the future people go "o, i won't follow stated policy cause what if these people reverse it like glbse used to do" ? yes, they will.
mircea_popescu: i saw. isn't this great, policy by shoestring ?
pigeons: there aren't. join the cartel or else use nefario
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: damn, I won't buy anymore S.MPOE, then
pigeons: people wouldn't use nefario if there were legal alternatives competent people would run them
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli i don't want a bank tho.
sgornick: Right, wasn't calling bullshit on that you need money to open a bank. Was trying to say how that moeny requirement is bullshit.
sgornick: Yup, and they have an excuse that sounds legit. "Just because, um ... we can't tell you why."
sgornick: mircea_popescu: Lost chase and wells fargo (well, no deposits, no ach withdraw .. .. through end of Oct, though if he doesn't know why they froze it how does he know end of Oct. it will be re-opened, with access to funds?)
MrTiggr: peace bro! ... don't hate my devil's-advocate hat oo much ... im kinda cranky today :P
iz: but i don't know if it would be profitable
iz: like.. make sure they keep the offline wallet key used to store everyone's bitcoins secret and don't check it into git
iz: you don't need to centralize the mint to have regulation of exchanges
iz: they don't have any regulations they need to follow at all
iz: for bitcoin investment companies that DON'T deal in cash and only in bitcoins
iz: not that bitcoin itself isn't regulated
copumpkin: no it doesn't
copumpkin: the protocol doesn't require regulation, but the people using it might
iz: bitcoin wasn't founded for that
copumpkin: I don't think bitcoin was originally founded "for" that
iz: and the people who don't call the main police office to check on the badge numbers to make sure they are real cops
copumpkin: MrTiggr: just like I got robbed because I hadn't learned martial arts, or wasn't carrying a gun? it happened because an asshole defrauded you.
iz: and the reason that doesn't happen so much in the real USD markets
iz: it doesn't matter if it's bitcoin or cash or pokemon cards
iz: MrTiggr: investments don't care how you give them the money
iz: no, people shouldn't be able to do that with cash, and that's why the SEC and regulatory agencies exist
smickles: also, most of my stuff isn't here yet, i'm using a stepstool with a couple of rags for padding as my seat
thestringpuller: I don't know if you've ever seen the Chappelle Show, but there was an episode where this guy came into a lot of money, played a dice game, and won, so he had tons of money.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller playing satoshidice isn't investing tho.
thestringpuller: but isn't satoshi dice doing well?
thestringpuller: Wouldn't running a casino contribute to the economy?
thestringpuller: Don't casinos make a lot of money mircea_popescu? Like Las Vegas for instance, the Bellagio just rakes in money.
thestringpuller: BTC-Mining isn't that how market makers make their money, via the bid-ask spread?
BTC-Mining: Most shares sold and weren't trading much afterward
thestringpuller: for something that didn't have a lot of market depth, GLBSE had a sizable volume of outstanding shares.
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't make casinoing an economic activity.
thestringpuller: it wasn't volatile
BTC-Mining: My wallet didn't find it to be a problem at all.
thestringpuller: that's cause people don't know how to trade.
mircea_popescu: course, sucks for all the people who wouldn't listen / knew better / whatever.
mircea_popescu: i don't spend that much on it personally.
rdponticelli: Even when I haven't send aml information
rdponticelli: Doesn't look good
rdponticelli: Anyway, he defaulted, but I don't think he's a scammer
jcpham: can't answer any question about it
jcpham: don't know what it is
chmod755: BTC-Mining, you don't need 100k BTC
rdponticelli: But it still doesn't have a lot of thing to invest in
rdponticelli: In a couple of days more, he's getting the -10 if he doesn't show good faith
mircea_popescu: his personal finances aren't much related to the results of glbse
jcpham: you wouldn't ever have to beg for 200$
mircea_popescu: well... he has to, doesn't he ?
mircea_popescu: i doubt he didn;'t know this. it's just scam furtherance is all.
mircea_popescu: Ukto it's finished, they have an update, "can't process" anymore.
mircea_popescu: no they weren't
pigeons: can't hack bcrypt of course
mircea_popescu: if enough people sign... this won't go anywere in a DIFFERENT WAY from the way nefario was going to have it nowhere
B0g4r7: I ain't giving Nefario so much as a pic of my big middle finger.
smickles: i don't think it would even be theft
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smickles: btw, i don't either
smickles: kakobrekla: i'm sure he was just pointing out that he doesn't care if people know his addy
Azelphur: no, I don't.
smickles: well, i can confirm that you can't just skip the photo upload
mircea_popescu: can't hurt anything.
Azelphur: baring in mind I don't actually have one
[\\\]: this isn't 1998 anymore
[\\\]: he doesn't have a personal bond
[\\\]: he isn't licensed
thestringpuller: lol I don't think it's worth it. Cut da losses.
JWU42: already went through all this once - he doesn't need another copy of this that he can lose
Azelphur: shame nefario isn't here, I really need an alternative way of verifying
Azelphur: not sure wtf I'm supposed to do, I don't have a passport or drivers license
rdponticelli: I don't even use to look at orders books of puts of too high a strike
smickles: strike - premium isn't breakeven for puts?
smickles: the calc i did isn't the break even point?
jcpham: i couldn't out my sources
jcpham: I don't remember now who told me
gribble: You rated user phantomcircuit on Sat Jul 14 10:35:46 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more..
gribble: You rated user genjix on Sat Jul 14 10:35:57 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more..
rdponticelli: BTW: Patrick, Amir and Donald aren't tagged, right?
rdponticelli: I don't even have it enabled
TooTnBooT: dub - I guess I don't know.
TooTnBooT: I don't know anything about mpex.
jurov: good this isn't btctalk.. kakobreklad would end up in sorry place like rapeghost
mircea_popescu: so don't feel entirely bad, you've saved me some time.
rdponticelli: kakobrekla: you don't need to follow anything. Dissapointness just finds you and falls onto your head wherever you're in bitcoinland.
mircea_popescu: well if there's the end of the world then there isn't.
mircea_popescu: jackson's reply is something like "my name's pitt and you'ass ain't talkin' your way outta this shit"
mircea_popescu: at any rate, it certainly ain't white.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the total % sold have to increase ?
mircea_popescu: hasn't emailed either.
mircea_popescu: so what happens to all the people who don't claim ?
mircea_popescu: they can't just send balances to "last address" or w/e