tmsr - Log 2012-10-09

dub: anyone else still have a tab open on ther glbse portfolio?

dub: I like to look at it some times and admire my DMC share

gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1825 @ 0.00031433 = 0.5737 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7475 @ 0.00031401 = 2.3472 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00031401 = 2.8261 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180001 = 1.8 BTC [+]

jurov: famous last words

jurov: ;;seen nefario

gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore

kakobrekla: hehe

dub: I like to look at it some times and admire my DMC share

dub: ewps

dub: just noticed this 6 slot pcie expansion chassis sitting in a rack

dub: need to steal it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 383 @ 0.00031401 = 0.1203 BTC [-]

dub: one of these http://www.amplicon.com/IPC/product/PCI-Rackmount-MAGMA-2903.cfm

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00031401 = 0.157 BTC [-]

dub: strewth brendio is in australia

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031401 = 0.314 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1742 @ 0.00031401 = 0.547 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 103 @ 0.00345638 = 0.356 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.00338731 = 1.0162 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 250 @ 0.00338161 = 0.8454 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.0033425 = 0.5014 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 123 @ 0.00333291 = 0.4099 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 74 @ 0.00296003 = 0.219 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00031274 = 0.1564 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031274 = 0.3127 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00031274 = 0.5004 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00031203 = 1.4534 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00031406 = 4.6481 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3330 @ 0.00031438 = 1.0469 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49870 @ 0.00031606 = 15.7619 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00181 = 0.543 BTC [+]

Doffx: Wow did S.Dice really tank that much what the heck

rdponticelli: That's nothing. Today somebody sold some @0.0001

rdponticelli: It's the panic

Doffx: What panic?

rdponticelli: All the panic

rdponticelli: It's been coumpounding for a while

Doffx: lemme guess the Nevada Gaming commision is going after Sdice

rdponticelli: I don't know which precisely is it anymore

Doffx: Haha

Doffx: What a mess.

rdponticelli: lol, probably

Doffx: I blame mircea_popescu for not specifically telling us so.

rdponticelli: Publish that on the forum, and somebody is selling it all the way down...

Doffx: Let me get a short position first

mircea_popescu: heh get outta here

Doffx: Haha

mircea_popescu: it's not located in nevada so it's ok, nefario's lawyer told me so.

mircea_popescu: also, c0x.

Doffx: Well I'm happy to know that even if I do manage to get my shares transfered somewhere else they will have lost 75% or so of the value.

mircea_popescu: Doffx win-win!

Doffx: ...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.00031203 = 12.0756 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: so is it today yet ?

rdponticelli: It should be in the uk

rdponticelli: Anyway, there'll be a lot of today's, me think....

mircea_popescu: well, things are moving, albeit slowly.

JWU42: it is tomorrow just about

rdponticelli: Well...

Bitcoinbear: hi everybody

mircea_popescu: bi BitcoinBaltar

mircea_popescu: oops

rdponticelli: Maybe nefario is living his own groundhog day

rdponticelli: I think we all are living the groundhog day, it can't be a clusterfuck everyday. Surely it's the same clusterfuck happening over and over again....

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00031263 = 0.5002 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18142 @ 0.00031203 = 5.6608 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: rdponticelli tbh, the positive way to look at this is, time washing out the grime.

rdponticelli: Yeah, at some point it has to stop

mircea_popescu: well there;'s not so very much left so.

rdponticelli: Anyway, nobody even dare to ask what else can happens...

pigeons: remote root in bitcoind

pigeons: film at 11

pigeons: gavin found in bed with a live boy and dead girl

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: rdponticelli well preeeeety much the only thing left is lets see...

mircea_popescu: i guess mtgox.

rdponticelli: There's any tsunami alert?

mircea_popescu: lol

rdponticelli: Anyway is useless, they're no alerts in bitcoin. Fuckups just falls from the sky...

mircea_popescu: ding ding

Diablo-D3: its rainin men^Wfuckups

mircea_popescu: ^W lol.

mircea_popescu: BURN HIM

dub: wait

dub: whats 25% of a satoshi?

rdponticelli: Please, don't burn anything. Anything burned would be and essential unknown piece of bitcoin, for sure

dub: how will I recoup my investment in DMC

mircea_popescu: rdponticelli "MPOE-PR MPEX Representative Instigating FUD and Pedaling Illegal Immoral Service"

mircea_popescu: there you have it. i'ma go pedal.

rdponticelli: lol

rdponticelli: Joy dub! You reached the bottom! You can't keep falling!

rdponticelli: That's the only joy, there's a low ground...

rdponticelli: Satoshi is there waiting for all us

rdponticelli: That's why it's called a satoshi

mircea_popescu: you should start a church

mircea_popescu: (actually im surprised nobody has)

rdponticelli: There was somebody...

dub: everyone quickly ignore jasinlee

mircea_popescu: apparently the bump to 30 really hurt.

dub: can you see how many have you on ignore?

dub: who is bitcoin.me? changed alias at some stage?

mircea_popescu: i think it;s something like 20

mircea_popescu: dub he's this douche that kept trying to shit on mpex. then it turned out he's a shill, owns(ed) glbse shares.

mircea_popescu: i was not impressed.

Diablo-D3: who?

dub: bitcoin.me

Diablo-D3: oh, bitcoin.me? hes been trying to troll the dmc thread too

dub: pretty sure its someone who changed names

Diablo-D3: showed up exactly when nefario locked dmc

Diablo-D3: so Im thinking it actually IS nefario

mircea_popescu: account is old tho.

mircea_popescu: but he claims to be some dave from australia.

Diablo-D3: and then theres puppet

dub: australians ftw

dub: what a genetic fuckup that is

Ukto: Diablo-D3: haha @ tealc :P

dub: an entire continent of people descended from the people the rest of the world threw out in the trash

Diablo-D3: dub: america?

BitcoinBear: my daughters are watching a nature show about deadly aussie animals

dub: well yes but

Diablo-D3: BitcoinBear: thats all of australia

BitcoinBear: yeah, pretty much

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17858 @ 0.00031168 = 5.566 BTC [-]

dub: amuricans don't inhabit a whole continent

Diablo-D3: yeah we kinda do

Diablo-D3: canada is ex-english and ex-french

Diablo-D3: we're ex-most of EU

Diablo-D3: mexico is ex-spanish with the descendants of native rape victims

mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be safe for glbse to pay to old btc addresses of customers would it ?

Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: no

mircea_popescu: they can't just send balances to "last address" or w/e

Diablo-D3: same reason SD is fucked up

mircea_popescu: so what happens to all the people who don't claim ?

dub: no

Diablo-D3: it cant tell the difference between change and real addresses

dub: nefario rapes tehm

Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you mean unable to claim legally

mircea_popescu: well wtf, this is why irl you have liquidators.

mircea_popescu: this is kinda silly.

Diablo-D3: this is fucking retarded, imo

Diablo-D3: at least he could have waited until I was done shutting DMC down before he paniced

dub: dude this is the best outcome for you

dub: you get to walk

dub: free as a retarded bird

mircea_popescu: dub on the other hand, im pretty sure mpoe.etf had some hundred btc in bidwalls at the time

mircea_popescu: to try and unwind it.

Diablo-D3: dub: doesnt mean its right

BitcoinBear: argh, why cant nefario show his face and answer questions?

dub: cause he's a spineless little motherfucker?

BitcoinBear: I guess he hadnt thought of how this would work

Diablo-D3: BitcoinBear: who are you?

BitcoinBear: he is almost as bad a planner as Dank

mircea_popescu: forum noob.

Ukto: I have a pretty good idea how it iwll work

Diablo-D3: ahh

BitcoinBear: what do you mean?

Ukto: based on what he did with goat

Diablo-D3: BitcoinBear: too many bears.

mircea_popescu: Ukto im listening.

Ukto: i just told you

mircea_popescu: :p

Ukto: :P

BitcoinBear: I've been bitcoinbear on the forum for about a year or something

mircea_popescu: so how do you like irc ?

Ukto: As I said before, when I was attempting to work with him to fixup gblse, I spent a month working with him, and I have a pretty good handle on how he deals with shit

Ukto: and based on what I have seen, i have a pretty good idea how he will handle the handing out of information

mircea_popescu: sorta like strateman ?

dub: in a retarded and hopelessly broken manner

BitcoinBear: it is nice to have current, real-time conversation, but I cant always sit online

Ukto: Unfortunately, there are some issues with his method, I hope he figured out sooner than later

Diablo-D3: the codes shit doesnt work

Ukto: if you do it with enough unqieness it can

mircea_popescu: problem is person resubmitting

BitcoinBear: what do goats codes look like? are they easy to guess?

Ukto: mircea_popescu: I can work around that

Ukto: first off

Ukto: ppl shouldnt buy codes off of someone else

Ukto: nefario isnt trying to make a decentralized market

mircea_popescu: ok.

mircea_popescu: this can be granted.

Ukto: i dont know what hes smoking about not giving the codes to teh asset creator tho

Ukto: thats kinda the point

Ukto: so they can track who had what

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 587 @ 0.0003132 = 0.1838 BTC [+]

dub: .topic

dub: durrp

mircea_popescu: Wait, what if everyone on the forums starts with a scammer tag, then if your ponzi scheme or exchange or investment or whatever lasts for more than 6 months (or 6 transactions), then you have to petition the mods to have the scammer tag removed?

mircea_popescu: This way, you can tell who's a scammer immediately (it's everyone, everyone is a scammer).

mircea_popescu: this is possibly a good idea

Diablo-D3: well not a scammer tag

Diablo-D3: but an untrusted tag

Diablo-D3: maybe a newbie founder tag?

mircea_popescu: tits or gtfo tag ?

Diablo-D3: giga got the fuck out.

mircea_popescu: lol

Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: my god

Diablo-D3: I just had a hilarious idea

Diablo-D3: STARTUP THE RPG

mircea_popescu: hehe

kakobrekla: dub ;;topic

mircea_popescu: it's what it is.

Diablo-D3: you start as a lvl 1 founder

rdponticelli: nefario should just put his shit up, allowing only trasfers

Diablo-D3: and.... grind 80 hours a week

mircea_popescu: it's what we do.

Diablo-D3: well, they say you're supposed to get back on the horse when your startup fails

Diablo-D3: I mean, I know how the sausage is made, but Im not sure if I liked being the one making it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20212 @ 0.00031232 = 6.3126 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 2 @ 0.61810948 = 1.2362 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.77852754 = 778.5275 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.3349582 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 799 @ 0.33314565 = 266.1834 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1 @ 0.70264176 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 879 @ 0.68945116 = 606.0276 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: Best bid: 11.84779, Best ask: 11.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05220, Last trade: 11.84779, 24 hour volume: 98309, 24 hour low: 10.621, 24 hour high: 11.95198

mircea_popescu: aha. back to 12 eh.

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 3 @ 0.20373372 = 0.6112 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 818 @ 0.18796849 = 153.7582 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 228 @ 0.24406928 = 55.6478 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.23166842 = 231.6684 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.1742641 = 174.2641 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00031456 = 1.0695 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 713 @ 0.77852754 = 555.0901 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 387 @ 0.33314565 = 128.9274 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 812 @ 0.23148323 = 187.9644 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: He washed his hands of all responsibility the moment that nefario (I spit and use hand gestures to ward off evil when I type that name!)

mircea_popescu: lmao loup cracks me up

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00031427 = 3.2056 BTC [-]

dub: he's a faggot

mircea_popescu: not that there's anything wrong with that.

dub: and a disgusting frenchman

pigeons: and a werewolf

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 794 @ 0.23137224 = 183.7096 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: i doubt he's french

dub: canadian, same difference

mircea_popescu: haha not nearly

mircea_popescu: but alas, to omuch excitement for one day. catch you all tomorrow for more!

Diablo-D3: [10:29:01] <mircea_popescu> He washed his hands of all responsibility the moment that nefario (I spit and use hand gestures to ward off evil when I type that name!)

Diablo-D3: no no no

Diablo-D3: you have to spit and then turn around in a circle 3 times

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I'm curious, has MPEX traffic increased since glbse went down? if so by how much? :p

mircea_popescu: not significantly.

Azelphur: boring

mircea_popescu: it had a lot of trafic to begin with lol

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: Best bid: 12.15251, Best ask: 12.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.04749, Last trade: 12.15251, 24 hour volume: 59176, 24 hour low: 10.97, 24 hour high: 12.35

mircea_popescu: o hey.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6128 @ 0.0003132 = 1.9193 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00031291 = 18.1488 BTC [-]

EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: have you talked to nefario about s.dice PT shares and how to clean up this mess?

mircea_popescu: nope. he's not been on irc in 2 weeks

EskimoBob: e.mail?

mircea_popescu: hasn't emailed either.

mircea_popescu: logically there's little i can do anyway or little reason to contact me

mircea_popescu: the pt was run by deadterra on glbse, he'd likely have to get the lists of his new customers

mircea_popescu: i think

mircea_popescu: i mean, what'd i do ?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00031209 = 3.3082 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13297 @ 0.00031204 = 4.1492 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: EskimoBob so did glbse send any money yet or anything ?

Chaang-Noi: lolat why nefario got scammers tag

Chaang-Noi: its seems only cuz he screwed over glbse (theymos) stock holders

Chaang-Noi: not cuz he fucked over glbse customers...

mircea_popescu: duh.

Chaang-Noi: well

mircea_popescu: theymos is completely untrustworthy at this point

mircea_popescu: especially given that his confederate that anon bitcoin.me guy said he KNEW before selling

Chaang-Noi: i thought badbear would have not be so clear about only protecting theymoses investments

mircea_popescu: that nefario was planning to throw you off

Chaang-Noi: i thought he would ahve said some bs about protect custimers or what not

Chaang-Noi: oh lol

Chaang-Noi: i did not know about that

Chaang-Noi: is there link or logs?

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.msg1259176#msg1259176

Chaang-Noi: cuz if theymos knew about it...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00031231 = 1.1555 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: make a screencap or quote it

rdponticelli: What's funnier is that theymos was the one who requested the pirate passthroughs

mircea_popescu: because they've been deleting the girl's posts

rg: [11:15] <mircea_popescu> especially given that his confederate that anon bitcoin.me guy said he KNEW before selling

mircea_popescu: (also loup garoux and burtw)

rg: told you that was sketchy

mircea_popescu: rg yup

rg: everyone was like ohh noo

rg: its ok

mircea_popescu: rdponticelli i guess a buncha people did.

rg: hes been trying to sell

Chaang-Noi: theymos (or someone) deleated a few of my posts..

rg: yeah... trying to sell a week cause he knew

rg: Chaang-Noi: it happens to me all the time

mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134974765464.png find that post on btctalk.org

rg: theyre not supposed to delete threads

rg: unless theyre misposted

mircea_popescu: they killed like, an entire convo.

mircea_popescu: yaya well, they didn' delete threads, just a bucnha posts in one

Chaang-Noi: that does not mean theymos knew that i was going to be kicked off before it happened

mircea_popescu: neither burt's, nor the one who quotes, nor the one who the quoted one responds to are there anymore.

Chaang-Noi: just that he sold after he knew

mircea_popescu: well if he sold after he knew

mircea_popescu: and he sold before you were kicked..,

mircea_popescu: remember, they sold on 24th

mircea_popescu: you were kicked 25th

Chaang-Noi: oh wow

mircea_popescu: right ?

mircea_popescu: and theymos himself said he had no ideea

Chaang-Noi: well did bitcoin.me join the org sale or did he join later?

mircea_popescu: but this is a lie. pure and simple.

mircea_popescu: well if he joinedf later

Chaang-Noi: yeah theymos said he did not know

mircea_popescu: wouldn't the total % sold have to increase ?

Chaang-Noi: but bitcoin.me could have joined wanting to sell later

mircea_popescu: i mean, i sell 23%, and some person joins the sale

mircea_popescu: i still sell 23% ?

Chaang-Noi: yeah i understand what you are saying

mircea_popescu: well so.

Chaang-Noi: but its not like black and white

mircea_popescu: seems pretty black and white to me.

Chaang-Noi: yeah, it does not look good

mircea_popescu: at any rate, it certainly ain't white.

mircea_popescu: you know what they say, a bottle of wine with a drop of piss added is a bottle of piss.

Chaang-Noi: are the irc logs public?

mircea_popescu: mostly.

Chaang-Noi: iv not seen any

Chaang-Noi: i mena the one bitcoin.me is talking about

mircea_popescu: o you mean published ?

Chaang-Noi: yeah

mircea_popescu: uh i dunno

Chaang-Noi: ok

mircea_popescu: in general the rule is, he who references irc logs has to link to source.

Chaang-Noi: well its a fucking mess

Chaang-Noi: this whole thing more or less showed this forum is worthless

Chaang-Noi: i lost a lot of respect for theymos and staff...

Chaang-Noi: maged even threatoned me, then i made that publc and he resigned the investigation

Chaang-Noi: fucking assholes

DeaDTerra1: evening :)

Chaang-Noi: hi

EskimoBob: "mircea_popescu | EskimoBob so did glbse send any money yet or anything ?" - I have not received anything

kakobrekla: just printed http://shrani.si/f/3i/yn/2V60I68q/bit.jpg

kakobrekla: smells like... regular paper.

Chaang-Noi: bitcoin.me was the one who called me a scammer for "taking atvantage of nefarios good will"

Chaang-Noi: what a cunt

Chaang-Noi: looks awesome kakobrekla

Chaang-Noi: can i see unedited photos? :)

kakobrekla: :>

kakobrekla: well accualy you could

kakobrekla: the one on top is sampe

kakobrekla: sample

Chaang-Noi: i was just kidding

kakobrekla: i really hate the lack of nice designs for this sit

kakobrekla: shit

Chaang-Noi: i agree kakobrekla

kakobrekla: and www.bitaddress.org is not printer friendly at all

jcpham: goat realize i blame you for everything

kakobrekla: this needs to be redone

Chaang-Noi: i donated to that cause

jcpham: everything that has went wrong...you were involved in it....

Chaang-Noi: its better than i could do

Chaang-Noi: i have been involved in everything that has gone wrong

jcpham: yes, you have

Chaang-Noi: bitcoinica... pirate... glbse...

jcpham: seems like a fucking pattern of fail

Chaang-Noi: iv been massivly fucked

Chaang-Noi: i lost over $100,000 usd in the last year and all my time...

Chaang-Noi: i would have done well if i just held...

Chaang-Noi: or atleast be on the good side...

Chaang-Noi: and now i have bs liabilities cuz of nefario

Chaang-Noi: and i guess theymos too

jcpham: maybe it's time to make a new name

Chaang-Noi: the guy who admited to reading pms on the forum...

jcpham: and reinvent yourself as a next level scammer

Chaang-Noi: make a new name? fuck that... ill just leave the forum...

Chaang-Noi: lol if im a scammer im doing it wrong

jcpham: me too

Chaang-Noi: im not anon i doxed myself when i did tygrr tech

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50020 @ 0.00031204 = 15.6082 BTC [-]

Doffx: You dont have a scammer tag do you Chaang-Noi?

Chaang-Noi: no

Chaang-Noi: why would i?

Doffx: That's why I asked, didnt think you should, but you definitely have been caught in the middle of a bunch

Doffx: There's an irony there somewhere, id bet most people would have bet you would have been the scammer haha

Doffx: Even if I get the asset I own the most of back, I bought it at .0032, I could now sell it at 0.00181001

Doffx: Makes me sad.

Chaang-Noi: i know

Chaang-Noi: most people think im the scammer yet i keep getting fucked by trusted community memebers

Doffx: Man, I cant imgine losing 100k, I could do everything I wanted in my current plans and pay off all my debt and still have some left over if I got 100k

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5783 @ 0.00031204 = 1.8045 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27859 @ 0.00031198 = 8.6915 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00031162 = 0.3116 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5993 @ 0.00031158 = 1.8673 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15859 @ 0.0003115 = 4.9401 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: i did well with a company i ran, then oil then gold...

Chaang-Noi: i got fucked hard with btc

copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: it's all cause of that chip you gave me at the casino :(

copumpkin: I'm the source of all your woes

copumpkin: :(

Chaang-Noi: that chip is still being held

Chaang-Noi: i hope to buy it back one day

copumpkin: I mean the actual casino chip you gave me :)

copumpkin: not the coin I claim to have stolen

Chaang-Noi: oh lol no

Chaang-Noi: i had a budget on the amount that i was going to lose that trip

Ukto: lol

Chaang-Noi: i never hit it

copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: oh I'm glad

Chaang-Noi: yeah i was shocked

copumpkin: I hit mine pretty early :P

Chaang-Noi: i got lucky a lot

Chaang-Noi: your luck was fail

Chaang-Noi: you lost 11 in a row right?

Chaang-Noi: 11 out of 11

copumpkin: I think I won one

copumpkin: and then lost the rest

Chaang-Noi: oh okay

copumpkin: it was prettyi mpressive though

Chaang-Noi: yeah man, osrry about tat

Chaang-Noi: that

copumpkin: I had similar performance when trying with my own money

Chaang-Noi: yeah, that was crazy odds

copumpkin: which is why I stopped so early :P

Chaang-Noi: i did well on craps and 3 cardpoler

Chaang-Noi: games id never played before

Chaang-Noi: streight flush and then 172 odds on craps

copumpkin: I guess this just means I'm really lucky with the women

copumpkin: right?

Chaang-Noi: :)

copumpkin: yeah, that was crazy

Chaang-Noi: casinos mean nothing

Chaang-Noi: we know the odds are aginsts us

copumpkin: yup

Chaang-Noi: im just shocked i did not hit my limit on losses

MrTiggr: 3 cardpoler ... i knew a chick we called that

copumpkin: :)

MrTiggr: ;)

Chaang-Noi: :)

Chaang-Noi: i was told the strip clubs in vegas are pretty good.. i was told this after i got back, lol

MrTiggr: sry, cudnt help myself ... as u were

Chaang-Noi: meh, we were not talkingabout anyhint real :)

MrTiggr: lol

MrTiggr: i think "stolen" triggered my keywords

Chaang-Noi: so tiggr your thoughts on glbse?

MrTiggr: mebe need take that one out of my list

Chaang-Noi: oh lol

MrTiggr: hrrm

MrTiggr: glbse

MrTiggr: the sound a pirateship makes sinking

Chaang-Noi: id like to see a list of your key words :)

Chaang-Noi: hmmm a pirate ship sinking

MrTiggr: nop :P thats a secret :P

MrTiggr: personal thoughts == not a deliberate scam ... but stank from day 1

Chaang-Noi: arrr me boooty is wet

Chaang-Noi: i dont think glbse was a scam

MrTiggr: nop

MrTiggr: but badly handled

MrTiggr: nefarious--

Chaang-Noi: i think nefario was drunk with power and when he was told he cant act like a tyrant took his ball and went home

Chaang-Noi: and he calls himself a doctor too

Chaang-Noi: like a supervillion

Chaang-Noi: lol what a baby

MrTiggr: "Of course im drunk with power .. ever tried going crazy without it? noone listens"

MrTiggr: *simpsons reference 100 bonus points*

MrTiggr: lol and, iirc DR Nefario IS actually a DR

MrTiggr: not a medical MD but has a doctorite

Chaang-Noi: he needs an MBA

MrTiggr: lol and several other acronyms

MrTiggr: badly managed and i shudda seen it coming is my opinion

MrTiggr: jus too much else to eat popcoin to

Chaang-Noi: well

Chaang-Noi: i worked with him for a year

Chaang-Noi: i knew he lied and made deals he could not keep

MrTiggr: yah - he donated the bitcoin-police website/domain

Chaang-Noi: however i never expected this meltdown

MrTiggr: i dont think he MEANT to rip anyone

Chaang-Noi: im not so sure he even understands he hurt anyone at this point

MrTiggr: yah i agree

MrTiggr: his d0x is had .. if need be hes done

Doffx: I expected it from the time I started using it, however how the hell could I possibly pinpoint the exact when.

MrTiggr: but id like to think he will do the right thing

jcpham: just take it easy on me

jcpham: i'm a good guy

MrTiggr: (wishful thinking perhaps)

MrTiggr: lol jcpham checks out :D give HIM yer bitcoins

Doffx: I treated all of these things as a gamble and I dont like losing so i'm still angry about it.

mircea_popescu: MrTiggr most scams work out as good intentions turned sour.

mircea_popescu: you've seen pulp fiction ?

MrTiggr: unfortunately u are right, mircea_popescu

Chaang-Noi: wonder how he will deal with my delisted assets

Lyspooner: was pulp fiction a scam?

Chaang-Noi: also shocked at theymos tossing nefario under the bus at first sign of trouble

jcpham: i'm no longer willing to accept the funds of others

jcpham: or not at this time

mircea_popescu: Lyspooner hehe no, there's a scene wherein frank whaley says "we got into this thing with the best intentions"

MrTiggr: lol ... an over-used phrase in the bitcoin world for sure

mircea_popescu: jackson's reply is something like "my name's pitt and you'ass ain't talkin' your way outta this shit"

MrTiggr: lollllllll

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9476 @ 0.0003115 = 2.9518 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6724 @ 0.00031145 = 2.0942 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7270 @ 0.00031231 = 2.2705 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75158 @ 0.00031236 = 23.4764 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6753 @ 0.00031595 = 2.1336 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00031703 = 5.2944 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55441 @ 0.0003182 = 17.6413 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00031941 = 13.2555 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4278 @ 0.00031961 = 1.3673 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62840 @ 0.00031965 = 20.0868 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00031987 = 1.9512 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00032035 = 4.1325 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26769 @ 0.000321 = 8.5928 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00032128 = 1.6064 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50270 @ 0.00032133 = 16.1533 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00032135 = 13.2075 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5349 @ 0.00032349 = 1.7303 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: o hey

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00032383 = 8.1929 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00032667 = 11.2701 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3548 @ 0.00032706 = 1.1604 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61600 @ 0.0003115 = 19.1884 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00031144 = 7.9729 BTC [-]

rdponticelli: ;;rate nefario -1 At the very least, has been managing horribly the closing up of glbse...

gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user nefario has been recorded.

mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust nefario

gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user nefario: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -2 via 5 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=nefario

kakobrekla: gahh borring

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.0003115 = 0.0312 BTC [+]

jurov: kakobrekla, how many people are there?

jurov: we too had some meetings here in bratislava, about 20 ppl came

mircea_popescu: jurov pics ? blogposts ?

jurov: i'm not there anyway, i did talk about coinbr but that was not recorded

kakobrekla: hm

kakobrekla: id say

kakobrekla: just under 100

kakobrekla: and jesus fuck a lot of nonsense

kakobrekla: i should be talking here

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33202 @ 0.00031329 = 10.4019 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: 100 ?!

mircea_popescu: wow.

kakobrekla: bitstamp is talking laterz

kakobrekla: he owes me a coke.

mircea_popescu: haha

mircea_popescu: you folks got a feed anywhere ?

kakobrekla: http://www.kiberpipa.org:8099/live.html

kakobrekla: im sitting 1m right of the the pinguin lol

kakobrekla: not this set is ending

kakobrekla: im guessing there will be a pause

mircea_popescu: the stuffed penguin or the gesturing penguin ?

kakobrekla: end

kakobrekla: aha

kakobrekla: bitstamp is now

kakobrekla: no pause

kakobrekla: ok mircea_popescu your favourite guys

kakobrekla: now :)

EskimoBob: where did usagi go? I miss that crazy mancunt .. No, actually I do not miss him at all

OneEyed: Arf, just noticed the new MPOE-PR avatar

mircea_popescu: hm ?

mircea_popescu: my ignore list sucks, i used to get 500-600 lines a day

mircea_popescu: yest was 0, today it's 0 wtf.

EskimoBob: cm'n guys, I have this absolutely worthless test security in OT. pays 10% per week (in your dreams)

EskimoBob: oh, I think I have him on ignore :(

kakobrekla: i removed myself from the room

kakobrekla: too much bull.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00031398 = 0.2198 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: lol

kakobrekla: i could troll the shit out of bitstamp

mircea_popescu: awww

FabianB: main audience are noobs?

kakobrekla: tech savy bitcoin noobs

kakobrekla: some miners there also

jurov: please come to camera and wave to us :DDDD

kakobrekla: hehe

kakobrekla: im outside now

kakobrekla: couldnt handle it

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.msg1259895#msg1259895 this is a pretty good post for the newer kids on the block that might not know the old dirt. brought to you by B0g4r7

B0g4r7_: Thank you, thank you very much.

B0g4r7_: </elvis>

mircea_popescu: "The stock market platform (from here on called "the market") steals a number of ideas from OpenTransactions. We will be developing both projects side by side, and where possible share code to reduce the workload, cost and development time."

mircea_popescu: quoth nefario. who knew :p

pigeons: is it "later today" yet?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00031734 = 9.7423 BTC [+]

rdponticelli: It is Today's "later today"

rdponticelli: We'll see a lot of those passing by

mircea_popescu: tomorrow is another today!

KeTheR: it was "later today" yesterday

hnz: great that "today" happens every day

mircea_popescu: i predict the end of the world will occur later today

mircea_popescu: or tomorrow.

rdponticelli: There's no tomorrow

mircea_popescu: well if there's the end of the world then there isn't.

copumpkin: tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow

Eisenhower34: right now i have to be honest ,i wait more for Oct 12th than for a GLBSE return ...

mircea_popescu: the marrow of today's tomorrow.

mircea_popescu: Eisenhower34 that's harsh man.

copumpkin: so you can not get your coins back from pirate first, and then not get your coins back from nefario?

mircea_popescu: lol

Eisenhower34: harsh? why? Alot lost much more to pirate than to GLBSE

mircea_popescu: Eisenhower34 i was just being an ass.

Eisenhower34: ^^ ah ok :)

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22244 @ 0.00031416 = 6.9882 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11955 @ 0.00031398 = 3.7536 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 501 @ 0.00031329 = 0.157 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.47034915 BTC [+]

smickles: aw dammit, i typed /quit and hit enter

mircea_popescu: wb lol

kakobrekla: im dissapint and mad

kakobrekla: dissapoint

mircea_popescu: ?

kakobrekla: dissapoint because of the noobishness on the conference and mad because i accualy went there as i could have been easily dissapointed via live stream

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: will take a lot of frustration and dissapointment from people just like you before conferences become actually worth going to.

dub: but like, you like could like have like built like like like like like like like like like like like the like future of like bitcoin!

rdponticelli: kakobrekla: you don't need to follow anything. Dissapointness just finds you and falls onto your head wherever you're in bitcoinland.

mircea_popescu: so don't feel entirely bad, you've saved me some time.

dub: you could have saved us all some time ans shot nefario in the face

kakobrekla: at least some new people got introducet to btc

kakobrekla: introduced

EskimoBob: more misery

kakobrekla: i didnt get my coke.

kakobrekla: bitstamp is scam.

smickles: so, the situation with glbse is still pretty much a waiting game, eh?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30997 @ 0.00031329 = 9.7111 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00031144 = 0.8097 BTC [-]

rdponticelli: smickles: yes, exacly as every other bitcoin "business" which have to return funds

rdponticelli: Oh, yes, wait a little longer, funds are coming

rdponticelli: lol

mircea_popescu: dub i thought i kinda did.

smickles: I'm not all that concerned with the funds (in my personal situation), rdponticelli but the shareholder info, that's what I want

jcpham: why hello there smickles

rdponticelli: smickles: I'm exactly in the same situation

smickles: Good Day jcpham :)

rdponticelli: I just had pocket change on the site

jcpham: i'm only interested in the assets

jcpham: and only one at that

rdponticelli: But I need the list of holding of users

rdponticelli: And my own holdings

rdponticelli: Well, I have the list of my transactions, I've downloaded the csv minutes before the closing up

jcpham: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=scammer+tag&l=1

jcpham: maybe you've seen this

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13.msg46#msg46 "q : how many coins are created by a cpu miner a day right now ? a (satoshi) : a few hundred)

Doffx: haha

mircea_popescu: jcpham ahahaha

jcpham: please update your thread with that link

jcpham: google loop!

mircea_popescu: im blogging this

mircea_popescu: (with tht link)

smickles: jcpham: nofucken way

jcpham: true story

mircea_popescu: its true.

jcpham: google knows things.

jurov: <kakobrekla> bitstamp is scam... why? i was thinking of using it someday

mircea_popescu: jurov he was just being funny. guys promised him a coke.

jurov: ah sooooo

jurov: good this isn't btctalk.. kakobreklad would end up in sorry place like rapeghost

kakobrekla: lol

kakobrekla: yeah jurov

kakobrekla: they wont steal your money

kakobrekla: but thats it.

kakobrekla: dont expect anything more :)

smickles: someone, be a doll, buy some puts http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3110 @ 0.00031143 = 0.9685 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117445.0

kakobrekla: heh

kakobrekla: bad times for btc

kakobrekla: only kako is up!

kakobrekla: ;>

jurov: hehe i'm up too... expect update in few days

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ya it was announced a bit earlier

mircea_popescu: they claim lack of volume

mircea_popescu: then they offer 600 btc bidwall at 12.1, ie, 30 cents over price.

kakobrekla: heh

knotwork: Seems Theymos might be doing a decent job of teaching people to trust no-one

knotwork: not as good a job as pirate maybe though

mircea_popescu: probably of general interest : http://trilema.com/2012/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown/

dub: where is the new MPOE-PR avatar from?

mircea_popescu: it's actually her old avatar

mircea_popescu: what do you mean where's it from ?

dub: looks familiar

jcpham: i like how smilies are used as utter sarcasm

mircea_popescu: dub you prolly recall it from earlier this year, she was using it on forum

kakobrekla: moody said its ok to advertise smpake but not bit4x.

kakobrekla: scammer.

mircea_popescu: lol

kakobrekla: fine, ill advertise smpake and put bit4x banner on top of the page.

mircea_popescu: lol

pigeons: forex = scammer! run a legititmate ponzi like everyone else

mircea_popescu: ^^

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50868 @ 0.00031137 = 15.8388 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: i aint no milk.

mircea_popescu: ahahaha

mircea_popescu: took me a moment that 1

mircea_popescu: usagi will now forever live in this community, not through his dubious gender identity or horrible business practice,

mircea_popescu: but through this brilliant addition to the folk culture. MILK IS A SCAMMER!