tmsr - Log 2012-10-12

smickles: Over the course of their adventures, smickles has acquired control over an amount of [thing] and [otherguy] has acquired control over an amount of [otherthing].

smickles: So, it has come to this, that smickles is willing to part with an amount of [thing] in order to acquire control over an amount of [otherthing]. Likewise, [otherguy] is now willing to part with an amount of [otherthing] in order to acquire control over an amount of [thing].

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200N] 1 @ 0.99879214 BTC [-]

jurov: smickles, consider writing recitals for hire

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200N] 1 @ 0.89865703 BTC [-]

smickles: jurov: i will provide consulting services as part of my business ;D

jurov: i'd prefer something short and simple like "smickles accidentally an amount of [thing] in order to [otherthing]"

smickles: ;;calc (20-[ticker --bid])/[ticker --bid]-.99879214

gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.

smickles: ;;calc (20 - [ticker --bid]) / [ticker --bid] - .99879214

gribble: -0.332125473333

smickles: jurov: lol, i feel like making the recitals out of a 'realization keanu' image

jurov: or, even shorter, "smickles wants moar [thing]. Likewise, [otherguy] can haz [otherthing]."

smickles: :D

jurov: and you can use cat pics! keanu is boring

smickles: "under the eye of ceiling cat"

jurov: "Delivery method: [ ] Fedex [ ] UPS [ ] Monorail cat"

smickles: and it has to end with "best contract evar"

jurov: i used lolcat translator, brace ur:

jurov: SO, IT HAS COME 2 DIS, DAT SMICKLEZ IZ WILLIN 2 PART WIF AN AMOUNT OV [TING] IN ORDR 2 ACQUIRE CONTROL OVAR AN AMOUNT OV [OTHERTHIN]. LIKEWIZE, [OTHERGUY] IZ NAO WILLIN 2 PART WIF AN AMOUNT OV [OTHERTHIN] IN ORDR 2 ACQUIRE CONTROL OVAR AN AMOUNT OV [TING].

jurov: lmaooooo

smickles: lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4637 @ 0.00031238 = 1.4485 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170N] 1 @ 0.58521108 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.46103591 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 3 @ 0.08997437 = 0.2699 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00031051 = 6.5828 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13365 @ 0.00031238 = 4.175 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28425 @ 0.00031307 = 8.899 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00031264 = 1.8446 BTC [-]

BitcoinBear: quiet in here today

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34758 @ 0.00031264 = 10.8667 BTC [-]

darkee: prolly not the best time I could've been on a vacation...

thestringpuller: ;;eauth thestringpuller

gribble: Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00031109 = 1.4058 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: ;;gpg verify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155

gribble: Error: 'freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155' is not a valid http url.

thestringpuller: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155

gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu

thestringpuller: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:69eaf57f6336b2ca03141dcfc6bb3c41918a39d23bf42c504c512155

gribble: You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169

thestringpuller: :P

thestringpuller: ;;seen usagi

gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <usagi> We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/

mircea_popescu: o hey, i just got my glbse btc back.

mircea_popescu: it was tucked away in the pirate oct 12 payment.

dub: spose I should get around to claiming

dub: purely because I don't want that fuckmeat keepign the 1.4btc or whatever I have in there

dub: and of course to claim that 1 DMC share

mircea_popescu: totally worth it.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00031084 = 7.0561 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 896 @ 0.00031051 = 0.2782 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00031274 = 4.0969 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/YRDzn.png

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00031358 = 7.1496 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: soh, i parsed entire gox history

kakobrekla: 3mio records

kakobrekla: not too shabby

mircea_popescu: yeah

kakobrekla: im going to chart money flow oscilator

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27016 @ 0.00031274 = 8.449 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00031231 = 0.7183 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla fun

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 4 @ 0.22374807 = 0.895 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 5 @ 0.21399737 = 1.07 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 2 @ 0.19049152 = 0.381 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 2 @ 0.18103774 = 0.3621 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 837 @ 0.17063486 = 142.8214 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/yU7bA.gif

mircea_popescu: someone should make a new ponzi on bite.me

Chaang-Noi: iv made 15 btc off of satishi dice...

Chaang-Noi: first time playing

Chaang-Noi: crazy adictive

mircea_popescu: you know, playing sdice is -er, owning stock is +er.

zerokwel: any thing that requires luck I lose

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00031116 = 5.5698 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: lol 30 btc to get an account? you know i turned you down when it was free

Chaang-Noi: also i think i would lose more holding the stock anyway

Chaang-Noi: id short it...

Chaang-Noi: the problem with this game is confrims

Chaang-Noi: im up 19 coins but cant play more but want to

Chaang-Noi: oh i just have to wait for 1 confirm not 6

Chaang-Noi: okay this is fine

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23887 @ 0.000311 = 7.4289 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20723 @ 0.00031058 = 6.4361 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 37 seconds

zerokwel: and some blocks do that have sd tx in them

zerokwel: do not have even

Chaang-Noi: yeah mine are not being added

EskimoBob: you guy better get the LTC before it hits 0.009

EskimoBob: diff jump estimate is about 45%! yes 45%

Chaang-Noi: im well over 160k so i guess ill have to hold

Chaang-Noi: i wanted 200k but i guess i ownt get it :(

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29377 @ 0.00031058 = 9.1239 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1074 @ 0.00030923 = 0.3321 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14649 @ 0.0003092 = 4.5295 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: hmm s dice did not tell me about a 2 btc bet

Chaang-Noi: it jsut ignored it but took my money :/

Chaang-Noi: oh it just took a while

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6451 @ 0.0003092 = 1.9946 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32549 @ 0.00030918 = 10.0635 BTC [-]

thepulledstring: Giga

gigavps: hello

Chaang-Noi: hi

thepulledstring: How you guys doin?

thepulledstring: Glad it is friday?

gigavps: glbse has pretty much ruined any entire market, it's kind of hard to understand the effect of just shutting down their service without any notice

gigavps: an*

gigavps: it's beyond a worst case scenario

thepulledstring: For a public market

thepulledstring: You are forced to reprivatizr

thepulledstring: Instead of public trading

thepulledstring: also doesnt mpex have more market depth?

thepulledstring: gigavps, you also seem to be able to withstand the weather of this storm your company won't buckle

gigavps: thepulledstring i can survive anything, i am more worried about people who bought shares/bonds

gigavps: glbse has let down their entire userbase with yet another knee jerk reaction

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4151 @ 0.00030918 = 1.2834 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47549 @ 0.00030915 = 14.6998 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: at least it had better css.

thepulledstring: Mpex is for unix users

mod6: unf

knotwork: damn all that ASIC money still be dumped by the ASIC folk to buy fiat to build thier ASICS holding price down maybe?

thepulledstring: gigavps when you get a list of your outstanding shares and who owns them you will be able to hunt out your shareholders who haven't made claims...

thepulledstring: knotwork: ork I think asic are all hype. So much money goes into NRE

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00030915 = 0.5874 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00031116 = 8.4947 BTC [+]

knotwork: Hey I think I saw something about google's browser having a remote desktop / pc-anywhere feature in it now

knotwork: if so people who insist everything has to be in their browser can be accomodated simply by leasing them a virtual machine running chrome with the remote desktop feature turned on

knotwork: they they can have desktop apps in their browser

EskimoBob: chrome sucks. You can not select individual cells from a table.

knotwork: its suppoosedly a remote desktop

knotwork: dont know if the remote machine even has to run chrome or it runs a normal remote desk daemon

knotwork: no no HTML tables to worry about, its like running xwindows presumably but embedded in their browser

knotwork: so they could e.g. run open transactoions java client on their virtual machine and have it in their browser at their end

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00030915 = 1.8858 BTC [-]

knotwork: I think the browser thing is "misery loves company". if private keys are only at their end, not even an intrusive javascript at server to come into their browser to mess with their keys, if they get hacked its just them suffering alone

knotwork: but if they convince someone to create a website to get hacked, then when the hack happens they have to consolation of everyonev else also suffering along with them

knotwork: and they can claim it wasnt their fault too, as if they didnt insist and lobby etc for a website precisely to let it happen

Chaang-Noi: can someone help my figure something out, what are the odds of my not rolling a 1 on a 4 side dice if i do it 10 times? and never hit a 1?

jurov: .calc(0.25**10)

jurov: oh no it NOT rolling 1

jurov: .calc(0.75**10)

jurov: .calc(0.75^10)

jurov: whatever

Chaang-Noi: 0.05631351470947265625

Chaang-Noi: so that will happen 5 times in 100?

jurov: yes, i think so

jurov: ;;calc(0/0)

gribble: Error: "calc(0/0)" is not a valid command.

jurov: how does it work?

jurov: .calc 0/0

markac: 0/0 = 1

markac: Note that .calc is deprecated, consider using .c

jurov: 0/0=1 fuck yeah

EskimoBob: is today the 12th when The BTC Shysters and Thieves (aka BTCST) promised to release new information?

jurov: nope. wrong month

rdponticelli: Wrong century

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21830 @ 0.00030915 = 6.7487 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57549 @ 0.00030912 = 17.7895 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.00323914 = 0.9717 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28674 @ 0.00030963 = 8.8783 BTC [+]

Chaang-Noi: ;;tlsb

gribble: Error: "tlsb" is not a valid command.

Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 19 minutes and 34 seconds

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4348 @ 0.00030912 = 1.3441 BTC [-]

Diablo-D3: the fuck

Diablo-D3: is ozcoin down

thepulledstring: Ozcoin is never down

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.00323967 = 0.324 BTC [+]

Diablo-D3: dub: why is dubserv down

thepulledstring: gigavps returns

PsychoticBoy: is it abird? is it a plain? no, its gigavps

thepulledstring: PsychoticBoy lol

thepulledstring: i invested in you

thepulledstring: When you first ipo'ed

PsychoticBoy: I do hope i will get all shareholders information so I can settle this

PsychoticBoy: ABM or FDBF?

thepulledstring: ABM

PsychoticBoy: long time ago

thepulledstring: How long did it take you to.get your single

PsychoticBoy: the good times

thepulledstring: i am more interested in your interaction with bfl

PsychoticBoy: I ordered in Jan 2012 and got it 11 april 2012

thepulledstring: damn you still think its that long of a wait?

PsychoticBoy: now?

thepulledstring: My investors want to drop money on singles

thepulledstring: yea now

PsychoticBoy: no now you will get it in 40 days

PsychoticBoy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77796.0

PsychoticBoy: last one got it in 30 days

Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 13 minutes and 30 seconds

thepulledstring: 30 days damn thats so long

thepulledstring: i could build an fpga more quickly

thepulledstring: Too bad bfl's bitstream is locked down.

thepulledstring: PsychoticBoy do you think they will have hell shipping the asics given the wait times with the singles?

PsychoticBoy: First let us all wait and see IF they will ship any asics

thepulledstring: ;;verify thestringpuller

gribble: Error: 'thestringpuller' is not a valid http url.

thepulledstring: If?

PsychoticBoy: yes IF

thepulledstring: I mean I know asic's are expensive to produce due to the NRE and the quantity needed to make it worthwhile.

PsychoticBoy: I have lots of preorders with them but heey anything can happen in btcworld

thepulledstring: My cost estimates for an asic based off of fpgaminer was about 500k for a batch

thepulledstring: I worked in a microelectronics fabrication lab at Georgia Tech as an undergrad.

PsychoticBoy: They should have enough to create the asics, I can only hope they will

thepulledstring: Its hella expensive.

thepulledstring: Expensive design wise. The acual fabrication is cheap hence the cost of the NRE.

thepulledstring: I was just wondering your situation PsychoticBoy since I want to go into mining full time but dont want to get buttfucked when asics come out.

PsychoticBoy: No one can tell, you have to take the risk A to buy a mining device now or B preorder asics

Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 20 minutes and 40 seconds

thepulledstring: Or i build my own.

PsychoticBoy: :D that would be the best option

thepulledstring: Which is doable if you have the right bitstream and people willing to solder for you.

thepulledstring: Fuck. I hate bfl

thepulledstring: I hate bfl more than glbse.

PsychoticBoy: lol

thepulledstring: This is some elqborate con...

thepulledstring: Elaborate. Sorry for the typos I am using my phone to irc.

thepulledstring: PsychoticBoy, what was you roi time frame for the one single. I had you at 40+ weeks for full roi on the equipment based on our electricity costs over there in the netherlands.

PsychoticBoy: about 40 weeks brb

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24526 @ 0.00030963 = 7.594 BTC [+]

Diablo-D3: http://video.disney.com/watch/partysaurus-rex-4cb5aeaed8df6adddc0f952d

Diablo-D3: so fucking tripping

EskimoBob: BTCST = BTC Shysters & Thieves

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43645 @ 0.00031092 = 13.5701 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6903 @ 0.00030912 = 2.1339 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00030906 = 1.6998 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23152 @ 0.00030903 = 7.1547 BTC [-]

Graet: ozcoin is down :/

Diablo-D3: yup it is :<

thepulledstring: Diablo miner

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 3 @ 0.14522402 = 0.4357 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.12583524 = 125.8352 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: im failing at probibility

mircea_popescu: lol

Chaang-Noi: lets say my odds are 1 in 4 and i miss it my first time

Chaang-Noi: what are the odds that i hit it the second time?

Chaang-Noi: is it just .25 x .25 ?

Chaang-Noi: that is the odds i miss it twicer right?

Chaang-Noi: im trying to figure out the odds i miss it the first time but hit it the second time

Chaang-Noi: 1:4 only work for the first one

FabianB_: it doesn't change

Chaang-Noi: you are missing the point

Chaang-Noi: waht are the odds i miss it the first time but hit it the second time?

Chaang-Noi: and what are the odds i miss it 3 times in a row and then hit its the 4th time

Chaang-Noi: you cant tell me its 1:4 everytime or i will be well over 100% before long...

Chaang-Noi: facepalm

Chaang-Noi: youdont understand the question

Chaang-Noi: the odds of me missing the 1 out of 4 if i try 15 times should be 25 to the power of 15

Chaang-Noi: so waht are the odds of my hitting it on the 16th time assuming we dont know if i will hit it on the first 15 times or not and trust me it is not 1:4

Chaang-Noi: the odds of me failing to hit it 15 times in a row is so far less than 1;4

Chaang-Noi: what are the odds i even make it to the 16th roll?

Chaang-Noi: ...

Chaang-Noi: at least you didnot say 1:4 again...

Chaang-Noi: i dont know why i even bother talking with you...

Chaang-Noi: its gota be .75 x .25

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00030903 = 4.0483 BTC [-]

EskimoBob: infomercia: Mos reliable BTC legal advice is given out by "Shystersberg, Schmuckman & Gonif" law firm. Located in NY Diamond District

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16341 @ 0.00030903 = 5.0499 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.000309 = 5.0985 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24059 @ 0.000309 = 7.4342 BTC [-]