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mod6: i did just press & compile up through chapter 6 successfully. so that works at least.
mod6: i use that adacore version fwiw
mod6: ok. i've not seen any error like that for sometime now, definitely predates the recent loper-os posts.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis#L161 << the specific item that seems to fail on his box
asciilifeform: ^ anybody seen anything of this kind ? mod6 ? phf ? ben_vulpes ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: your gprbuild works ~except~ to recurse.
esthlos: libffa builds fine on fresh press, but not the demo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/HtlZe/?raw=true
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that gpl-gnat has succumbed to the work of wreckers. ~100% of the barfology to date, has been from gpl-gnat users with astonishingly variously rotted carcasses in place of a working compiler
asciilifeform: ( there is no reason why this ought to be necessary, this is the 1st report of this type of barf i've seen , in reading yr+ of various barf reports re gnat )
asciilifeform: and what it looks like is that your gprbuild, for some odd reason , refuses to recurse. try gprbuild inside libffa , then afterwards gprbuild inside ffademo.
asciilifeform: rm -rf the dir and re-press
asciilifeform: from last time
esthlos: sorry to be a bother asciilifeform, but still not working with adacore's gnat: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/NjSGH/?raw=true
asciilifeform: if you dont know how to magick a gentoo gcc-gnat, use adacore's
esthlos: wait, maybe you're supposed to compile AGAIN after USE=bootstrap compile
esthlos: mebbe its the usual gentoo breaking things into 20 pieces
esthlos: well this is fun: gnat: command not found, BUT gprbuild does stuff...
esthlos: uh, just used ./v.pl p press_output ffa_ch1_genesis.vpatch, if that's what you mean
asciilifeform: esthlos: there are no libraries
asciilifeform: the only data-dependent branches are in ffa_calc , the calculator.
asciilifeform: ffa is possibly one of the few nontrivial proggies where you can actually do this. because there are no data-dependent branches (aside from the 'data' which is the bitness you run under -- this determines the loopness of the loops)
asciilifeform: if one is satisfied with the nonoverflowability of the array refs , under all possible inputs , it is possible to yank'em. and get order-of-magnitude speedup. ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw i prolly oughta have mentioned, the timing figures (not only in ch6, but all posted to date) presume that ~all~ bounds-checks remain enabled. ☟︎
asciilifeform: libffa ( the actual arithmetism ) is cumulatively ~1900 loc, (80col!11) inclusive of whitespace , banners, and commentolade ; ffacalc apparatus another ~900, ditto. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: history did not end up supporting that view.
mircea_popescu: this is a little like being offered mention in the bible. i imagine many at the time thought 40 silvers a better deal, however...
asciilifeform: ( then can dispose of gpg for this, entirely ! )
asciilifeform: btw if somebody wants to write a py or pl scriptoid that'll generate the gpg-matching 1ffffff...blah turdoid for a given file , he will get honourable-mention in the next chapter. ☟︎
shinohai: ^ yeah that one
shinohai: I know, I have since converted solely to 1.4.x usage
asciilifeform: shinohai: you can't use gpg2 for this. nor stock gpg1
shinohai: ^ neat asciilifeform ... I'm a bit slower learning these bits (like debug flag 2 didn't work on gpg2 because mpi) but patience.
asciilifeform: with the 1FFFFF......FFFFFFFblahblah
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/no-such-labs-snsa-december-2018-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), December 2018 Statement
asciilifeform: nifty, ty mircea_popescu . possibly some of the new blood will finally do a job
mircea_popescu will pay 2 bitcents to the first l2 (not l1) that produces timing data, to the same standard as teh graph, + machine spec.
asciilifeform: pretty curious how this one will look on various iron.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as ben_vulpes says, these are a pleasure.
asciilifeform: blew most of an hr looking for that dumper ('gotta be in there...')
mircea_popescu: "Let’s verify the RSA seal of ffa_ch6_simplest_rsa.vpatch, the Chapter 6 code itself, using itself". epic.
mircea_popescu: as a general rule : if you publish a graph, which is continuous, and based on empirical data, do the world a favour and color-dot the datapoints on there.
mircea_popescu: all the crossings ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nice graph but where's the datapoints on it ?
asciilifeform: if the good doktor writes in and asks, i'ma add a t.
asciilifeform: ( at one time errybody either read or pretended to have read... )
mircea_popescu got the impression he named it deliberately for the acronymism (a lot more excusable in his case seeing how the uscongresstards hadn't yet driven that joke into the ground) and will sneak out to mix sugar in your fuel tank at night if you dare lop off the the
asciilifeform: errybody either has seen , or pretends to have seen, aocp.
asciilifeform: i dun think anyone will wonder 'what's aocp'
mircea_popescu: are you allowed to call it "aocp" btw ?
asciilifeform: odd, cuz asciilifeform got a distinct feeling that he had made a pudding of it. but happy that mircea_popescu found it edible.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm also quite pleased with the very good style of the items. readily doubles as manual for proper use of english.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is possibly the most fun and educational homework i have ever undertaken
a111: Logged on 2018-01-03 19:46 asciilifeform: mod6: it's the 'official' answer, linked in ch5.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox to snarf ch6 , ty
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't remember that it can be. gotta to the hard way unbase64 etc
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , do you remember whether gpg 1.4 ( virginal ) can be forced to dump hashpayload when verifying sigs ?
mircea_popescu: if one manages to not expect much, the extramural internet rarely manages to disappoint.
shinohai: Might be worthwhile, will add to battle plans this year.
BingoBoingo: The return of kink place as a "crypto" forum too. Maybe take the temperature of their autism?
shinohai: Surely the autism can't be any higher than the tardstalk experiment.
shinohai: Might do a Eulora promotion or something there this Spring if the btc Gods are kind to me this winter.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-06 18:02 shinohai: Some rss feeds were on my agenda (ala deedbot !!subscribe), one was /btc/ per http://trilema.com/2015/btc-the-most-recent-8chan-board/ .... but I think that kinda fizzled neh?
shinohai: Some rss feeds were on my agenda (ala deedbot !!subscribe), one was /btc/ per http://trilema.com/2015/btc-the-most-recent-8chan-board/ .... but I think that kinda fizzled neh? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nah, block people like this. let twitter suffer the penalty for their pretend sovereignity.
shinohai: Yeah, I simply turn off DMs there is at least a knob for that.
mircea_popescu: ah. so insta-block anyone who dms you, say so in profile (what, and why -- "do not dm or you will be blocked -- this is because twitter's self-important "privacy" bs) and problem solved.
shinohai: Yes, but supposedly it is an internal twitter "privacy issue" to share DMS
mircea_popescu: shinohai you can open it up if it works, charge people to host their twatter, it's something.
mircea_popescu: so without dms then.
shinohai: Interesting idea .... rss feeds themselves are quite easy, but the DM thing caused me grief last time I attempted iirc
mircea_popescu: just make sure it spits them out when asked and in a paste less it angers ye gods.
mircea_popescu: aaactualy! how about this as a small job for you shinohai ? set up a bot, rss lines from here to twitter and @, dms from twitter here.
mircea_popescu: eh, anyone can set up a rss from here, which is ~the whole thing i'd even consider.
BingoBoingo: Nah, they only don't ban insufficient world leaders
shinohai: twitter recently announced they would not be deleting accounts of world leaders, perhaps you can get ban overturned now mircea_popescu !
shinohai mainly wanted to copy all his slut contacts, only reason for seeking ban overturn
mircea_popescu: cool then!
shinohai: I got my ban reversed, but simply couldn't bring myself to go back to that nonsense, figured I had rottede my mind enough. (Thanks alf)
mircea_popescu: ah, i thought you were banned
mircea_popescu: guy actually gets gaming, which is rare. always was, but these days... fucking especially.
shinohai: I have seen him on twitter before I left, don't know him exactly though.
mircea_popescu: (anyone happen to know daniel mcneely, while we're at it ?)
mircea_popescu: does anyone want to do this same thing to rogue ? i'd buy.
BingoBoingo: I was doing my weekly cleaning and oiling of the boots, which likely seemed like a strange custom for Brasileros to have.
BingoBoingo: Nah, it was in the hostel. The safe assumption there is Brasilero until informed otherwise.
asciilifeform wrapping up ch6 , only tuned in with 1 eye currently
asciilifeform: well cthulhu did, manner of speaking, fuck the plushies to shreds, and repeatedly. but this happens to ~erryone.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 02:15 mircea_popescu: in other words : republican methodology for improving software, that was slowly swirling towards systematisation down the drain of v turned exponential / made some major breakthroughs in the past six weeks or so.
mircea_popescu: get a grip man, you have this strange reactive mr hyde portion, thoroughly anxiety driven, as if you honestly believe, with the deep fiber of your 5yo being, that whenever something happens chulhu will come fuck your plushies. one can almost measure the velocity of republic on the basis of alf-insanity-odometer as measured from the logs, are you aware ? correlate of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763554 is directly above. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the squirrels know?
mircea_popescu: sit your ass down for one cottonpicking moment, and consider the fact that you're the fellow who, IN THE SAME DAY, deduced that "nobody reads x" on the basis of "i read it every day and never found x.y". this, somehow, was a rational deduction that passed your filter. THEN you proceeded to threaten its-not-exactly-clear whom with burial, over their threats to steal your printer. and THEN you went off the deep end wrt to some
asciilifeform: now how would i even begin to answer that.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the sad is that part of that like in your case is built out of insanity.
asciilifeform: butlol, i ~like~ this about mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: ld make them more capable.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 19:48 mircea_popescu: go make yer castles today, so noobs have a shot at life in 2018
mircea_popescu: #trilema in particular is #trilema in particular because the buck stops with mircea_popescu as opposed to any other specific implementation of the same concept, but that's neither here nor there ; moreover you're very much encouraged to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758744 -- a bunch of locals have managed to reach that exalted level where the experience of actually and seriously working the other side of the problem wou ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-01-25 17:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, they only had one guy to answer to. all systems which are build around a spot where the buck stops outperforms systems bereft of such.
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu IS, in this context and fundamentally, the item where the buck stops, as the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-25#459581 concept ; and consequently #trilema is "a thing such as #trilema", as opposed to "a thing such as pantsuit" BECAUSE #trilema is built on this system as opposed to the "buck never stops" only possible alternative. ☝︎