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mircea_popescu: they don't want his scalp.
dub: its saying 'you can't hide motherfucker'
mircea_popescu: dub i hope it isn't for the reason that the idiots who'd do it lost all their money to scammers already and are facing deportation
smickles: oh, sorry, you didn't spoon feed me the info, so I had to actually work at finding it
dub: it does like this, you pay Super Envirocorp Green Recycling LLC, your govt apys them, africa pays them, and they probably don't pay tax, perfect
smickles: I wouldn't need to
smickles: dub: there'd at least be indications of it from the gov't, b/c i doubt poor african countries pay enough to make it profitable on their own
mircea_popescu: smickles the reason you aren't is because there's no such thing. on the african side it's pretty much independent business.
mircea_popescu: isn't it easier to move the garbage than the people ?
smickles: isn't that what I do?
mircea_popescu: it ain't how it works. takes generations of peopleworking dilligently.
smickles: imporvement over being a computer burner prolly doesn't look like much to us, but may look like a lot to them
smickles: ug, compartmentalize? you said it was some contractor from my gov't, i'm looking for that
smickles: well, i haven't found details about how most tucson corpo's recycle their compies yet
dub: I don't expect that
mircea_popescu: what doesn't scale is your expectation that every kid gets xmas
mircea_popescu: if they don't, elect better politicians.
mircea_popescu: this is sounding like the rape trial. "well... i didn't REALLY want it"
smickles: didn't the wester world go thru hundreds of years of shit to get where they are now?
mircea_popescu: they don;'t want the work, they don't get the money.
mircea_popescu: dub that's ridiculous. i have caustic stuff in my house, i don't pour it in my eyes
smickles: so dub who is this contractor you mentioned, and what part of the gov't actually gives them teh monies?
dub: unless dick has already started on his escape plan (protip: he hasn't because he's spending all his money making war) then your end game fails
mircea_popescu: the problem really is these days, the rich/successful/smart don't flaunt it nearly enough
mircea_popescu: d'uh, of course it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't scale"
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't want the risk of breaking a nail she can do w/o the crumb.
dub: doesn't quite fit the 'free market' ideology
mircea_popescu: should give the people who didn't learn math in school a chance too
thestringpuller: How do you know the writing contest won't be a political campaign
mircea_popescu: i can see the guy's position. how can he know you didn't sell the shares on glbse
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't take his word for anything.
JWU_42: didn't read that
smickles: I know how many shares I had, I likely know how many shares Azelphur has, and I likely know the minimum # of shares imsaguy has. but I can't pay dividends to any of us b/c we have no proof
JWU_42: I am in that boat with YABMC - would love to shut it down but can't at this point
smickles: if you ever had the ability to sell them, and don't have proof that you didn't sell them, then you are in the same position
JWU_42: but doesn't mean you still hold them
smickles: I know I own X shares of s2cm, but i can't pay even myself dividends
BTC-Mining: Imagine you're bitbond. There's people claiming to be owed X and you can't verify. You pay them. Then info is released and you realise many who claimed weren't owed anything at all to start with...
smickles: Atomic-Closed: what are you expecting here? the issue can't do anything because nefario fucked them
BTC-Mining: He probably didn't answer on account of you demanding to be paid?
BTC-Mining: If you don't have a proof/document that anything is owed...
BTC-Mining: But the issuer don't even know who is or is not a shareholder. Taking input wouldn't even be feasible.
BTC-Mining: I just don't see how you can pay anyone claiming to be owed anything without a proof. Claims will be much higher than what's owed.
smickles: 'cause the rest of us can't prove how many (if any) shares we had
BTC-Mining: She's awfully arrogant, insulting, etc. She's like some kind of rabid animal. That she's right on many things doesn't matter. A rabid animal ain't nice to approach.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if bitcoin is always under deflationary pressure won't one make money eventually by holding onto the coins?
BTC-Mining: and I didn't get my discounted by 90% bitcoins for Bitcoin Friday. What a letdown, way to blow up my hopes.
smickles: *note, lyspooner didn't get the 25%
Garr255: definitely don't ever treat a game like this as an "investment"
Garr255: kakobrekla, for some people it won't, for others it will. that's how these games work.
Lyspooner: but mtgox:currency exchange::mpex:stock exchange isn't a fair analogy
Lyspooner: from BFL apparently: ""We'll notify you at least a week before your order is ready and you can send your FPGA in. We are working on a way to cross ship you the device, so you don't have any downtime. It will probably involve you sending us BTC for the amount of the device and we'll refund the BTC when we get your FPGA unit back."
Lyspooner: i didn't follow the numbers
Lyspooner: i don't drive cars anymore
jurov: smikles, before. but i also have > 100k sell orders there and the collateral isn't counting them
mircea_popescu: haha i don't even have an acct.
Lyspooner: i don't know. with mpoe loaded up short calls, i can't expect mircea to not mess around with mtgox on final settlement day
smickles: i haven't yet launched my bot
thestringpuller: i didn't know you were a fan of OSS mircea_popescu
smickles: jurov: you use pympex too, don't you?
smickles: and, mircea_popescu, didn't you pledge to never release control of 50% the total shares during the initial offering?
smickles: shouldn't we be calcing the free float market cap (or as close as we can get to it) rather than implied value?
mircea_popescu: why do you think 14k bitcoins aren't enough to extrapolate based on ?
jurov: user won't have to copy/paste thhe price, he just clicks into graph similar to live.coinbr.com
jurov: i'm currently thinking on improving new order screen of coinbr, you won't believe what evil idea i just came up with
mod6: oh... i didn't see K. in this list:
mod6: haha, you didn't know that was still down there 'eh?
jurov: evidently there's someone thinking like me, but who hasn't such loan problems :)
mircea_popescu: didn't you get a multi-trillion options position at some point in a db desync ?
smickles: clearly, you had too few k. that's why it wasn't profitable ;P
mircea_popescu: you don't take my meaning.
mircea_popescu: you won't find a credit officer working for less than 100s of BTC PER LOAN.
mircea_popescu: i really wouldn't be doing that smickles.
mircea_popescu: i guess he doesn't see signatures or something.
mircea_popescu: i don't have kids, but i do find it ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: they don't exist to do their stated job, they exist to pay the salaries of those involved.
mircea_popescu: dawg, what do i care what joel k. nobody does or doesn't do ? does he own something ? is he somebody ? why'd i give a fuck exactly ?
mircea_popescu: well if you don't know find out lol
mircea_popescu: mostly because if you don't, there won't be any.
copumpkin: who doesn't!
smickles: holy shit, i don't need to have my browser window maximized!
midnightmagic: that used to be a common complaint. however, using too much so that the plants don't actually consume it, is a strong economic disincentive for its misuse.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less about teh 500. i want his head.
mircea_popescu: i don't want the money.
mircea_popescu: and he has to disclose that on all future applications (which means he can't be hired)
mircea_popescu: but the protections of "default" irl don't quite exist in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: it didn't work.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i didn't buy shares in a fund he administered (that's a diff scam he pulled). i just loaned him money.
mircea_popescu: dub that may well be true. but he can't pass it along to me. he will have to go prosecute them himself.
mircea_popescu: the company can't now sue me for 500k. it will have to go sue in cuba.
mircea_popescu: i won't be held liable, if i acted in good faith. it's between the ceo and the company.
mircea_popescu: but then it turned out it didn't exist
smickles: I don't mean to suggest that it's aplicable in your case tho
smickles: you don't recognise this sort of thing mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistake_(contract_law)#Common_mistake
smickles: also, it shouldn't matter who you are if you've defaulted on a contract, you have still defaulted on the contract
mircea_popescu: dub he doesn't irc anymore because when he tried to come here and "vouch" for nefario i told him where to stick it
jurov: couldn't get over these insecurities, eh?
jurov: did not knew too, but Serajewel informed me... but it seems there won't be identicons nor easily usable API