assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13870 @ 0.00049919 = 6.9238 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.0004998 = 26.4144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00050161 = 15.2239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00050174 = 19.9693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050175 = 9.2322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00050231 = 3.6166 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36950 @ 0.0005028 = 18.5785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25956 @ 0.0005035 = 13.0688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00050409 = 23.793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25820 @ 0.0005042 = 13.0184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9945 @ 0.00050438 = 5.0161 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39107 @ 0.00050604 = 19.7897 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19242 @ 0.0005063 = 9.7422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00050669 = 16.1127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11626 @ 0.00050673 = 5.8912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10074 @ 0.00050683 = 5.1058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050707 = 3.5241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00050727 = 5.2107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00050739 = 22.7818 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00050753 = 12.8659 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49100 @ 0.00050759 = 24.9227 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00050795 = 5.2791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.0005085 = 14.2889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00050853 = 14.7982 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this is actually getting to look kinda like the real deal huh
jurov: evidently there's someone thinking like me, but who hasn't such loan problems :)
jurov: *without such problems, i mean
kakobrekla: its all a bubble, sell before bitb comes out i tell you!
jurov: bitb upon us? oh no
jurov: 1. go to mpex front page
jurov: 2. scroll down to the bottom
mod6: haha, you didn't know that was still down there 'eh?
jurov: K. prefix? what wicked financial instrument are you concocting now?
mod6: oh... i didn't see K. in this list:
mircea_popescu: Reward-Drop ETA: 2012-11-29 00:03:55 (2 weeks, 4 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes)
mod6: where did you see that jurov
jurov: mircea, not kolchoz ?
mod6: i bought a new lappy, just setting it up... bbiab
jurov: indeed i suspect mircea turned communist and will start kolkhoz soon :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31820 @ 0.00051095 = 16.2584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00051 = 9.2055 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00051 = 11.8065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00051003 = 6.9109 BTC [+]
jurov: i'm currently thinking on improving new order screen of coinbr, you won't believe what evil idea i just came up with
jurov: user won't have to copy/paste thhe price, he just clicks into graph similar to live.coinbr.com
jurov: imagine that. no messing with these forms, just click into the graph to generate order of given price and quantity
jurov: i'll make ipad app for that :DDDD
jurov: either i'm insane or brilliant, not sure
jurov: "oh my cat ran over the ipad" lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37415 @ 0.00051015 = 19.0873 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4385 @ 0.00051 = 2.2364 BTC [-]
jurov: "Great MPEx Panic Of 2013 Caused By Cat Stepping On IPad"
jurov: better to go sleep, bye
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00051 = 15.351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49960 @ 0.00051 = 25.4796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1005 @ 0.00050974 = 0.5123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3201 @ 0.00050974 = 1.6317 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00050913 = 4.2258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49703 @ 0.0005091 = 25.3038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1672 @ 0.0005091 = 0.8512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050745 = 9.0326 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18296 @ 0.00050661 = 9.2689 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11845 @ 0.00050108 = 5.9353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5158 @ 0.00050039 = 2.581 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell btc-mining i think it is your obligation to your investors to help prosecute the scammer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48397 @ 0.00050039 = 24.2174 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86 @ 0.0005002 = 0.043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22764 @ 0.0005002 = 11.3866 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17349 @ 0.00049979 = 8.6709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00049979 = 12.7197 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00050175 = 19.6686 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i cant reach the guy, all the mails are bouncing back goddammit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00050175 = 13.1459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00050605 = 12.6006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00050715 = 4.6151 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050469 = 3.0786 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13743 @ 0.0005021 = 6.9004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0005021 = 8.5357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21807 @ 0.0005021 = 10.9493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00049979 = 2.3245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8242 @ 0.00049862 = 4.1096 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: but i guess he didnt get the notice on the email
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37158 @ 0.00049862 = 18.5277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11426 @ 0.00049858 = 5.6968 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0004934 / 0.00050333 / 0.00051095 (2193849 shares, 1,104.24 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00044148 / 0.00051095 (75251680 shares, 33,222.70 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00050217 = 15.6677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3674 @ 0.00049858 = 1.8318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3526 @ 0.00049857 = 1.758 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00049857 = 8.2763 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8640 @ 0.00050217 = 4.3387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00050264 = 14.1744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8160 @ 0.00050286 = 4.1033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15574 @ 0.00049857 = 7.7647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166 @ 0.00049792 = 0.0827 BTC [-]
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jurov: i'll pay someday... when i decide it's necessary to support poor romanian kids
jurov: mircea, how many mpoe shares you actually sold? the IPO was only 1 promile, and that was twice I think
jurov: now I guess it's 1-2% at most... then it's quite exaggeration to extrapolate mkt value from it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10508 @ 0.0005069 = 5.3265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0004934 / 0.00050372 / 0.00051095 (2175547 shares, 1,095.87 BTC), 30day: 0.00030871 / 0.00044179 / 0.00051095 (75259427 shares, 33,249.38 BTC)
mircea_popescu: why do you think 14k bitcoins aren't enough to extrapolate based on ?
jurov: ;;calc 1000000000* 0.0005069
jurov: mircea, it's too much uncertainty... and if all major btc companies extrapolated this way i suspect we'll ended with number several times beyond btc in circulation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1992 @ 0.00050181 = 0.9996 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;calc 100000000*0.00181
jurov: that's satoshidice, for example
jurov: silk road would be much more, etc...
smickles: shouldn't we be calcing the free float market cap (or as close as we can get to it) rather than implied value?
mircea_popescu: but anyway : obviously the value of all items in btc will be more than the total btc.
mircea_popescu: jurov but i think in a world where absolutely NO OTHER measure exists or is used, this measure, flawed as it may be, is much better.
smickles: and, mircea_popescu, didn't you pledge to never release control of 50% the total shares during the initial offering?
kakobrekla: not what i heard for measuring trust mp
kakobrekla: There were no results matching the query.
gribble: Current Blocks: 207520 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 127 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 10 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3392979.01731214 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.68199351952
jurov: put my whole opinion there.
smickles: Azelphur: I just made pyMPEx better … again
smickles: jurov: you use pympex too, don't you?
smickles: mircea_popescu: added signature verification
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00050181 = 3.9392 BTC [-]
jurov: it did not occur to me to check the signature :/ and it's true user's pubkey is used, so it's necessary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0005 = 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.00049897 = 5.9108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17954 @ 0.00049792 = 8.9397 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: was an episode earlier like 30-40k contracts were bought
smickles: Lyspooner: you lookin' to throw some btc at MPBOR?
smickles: Apr 05 22:50:39 {Cusipzzz}i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords << lol, good line to end on
Lyspooner: i don't know. with mpoe loaded up short calls, i can't expect mircea to not mess around with mtgox on final settlement day
Lyspooner: but seriously what sort of rate can i get for my coins from mpex?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00050181 = 8.1293 BTC [+]
jurov: kakobrekla, you mean the loan? of course
smickles: 25% sounds reasonable considering the recent losses
Lyspooner: give me some sort of bitcoin friday 25% guarantee
jurov: kakobrekla, you want longer term?
Lyspooner: or i'll just go buy a hat and some honey
kakobrekla: jurov if you need 100 btc i can lend it to you for a month
jurov: for how much? 9% ?
smickles: on btcjam, that %, is that the term % or a yearly %?
jurov: there's final amount shown too
mircea_popescu: for anyone that still remembers april times tho... it was a really scary time to be in bitcoin.
Lyspooner: 2011 was a scary time to be in euro
jurov: mircea, no , on 1st dec i am to repay 102.9
kakobrekla: hm, 2.9 is per 14 days or 11 that is remaining
smickles: damn jurov was that stat b/f or after our thing?
smickles: mircea_popescu: you so sure we were calcing the same thing?
jurov: smikles, before. but i also have > 100k sell orders there and the collateral isn't counting them
jurov: sorry kakobrekla, you're right, i confused it woth the loan we did w/smickles.
jurov: kakobrekla, if you can accept 6% / month I'll be glad
kakobrekla: well ... its not terribly attractive yet not something to pass along
jurov: 1EXeDPMG5M5imDpaX5znAk3JFx36bVpWaT
jurov: so that means 53BTC due on 11 December 2012?
jurov: kakobrekla, your addy, just in case?
kakobrekla: here it is 1GjVtbovA6Lr8UJgPKQNgzgtMwq4NDoYsR
jurov: okay. and if fsa gets you,. i'll send it to them.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13936 @ 0.00049792 = 6.939 BTC [-]
jurov: so, i just sold my 14yr old daewoo to lyspooner
jurov: for not bad a price :DDD
jurov: uhm, i was ging to fix slightly recessed roof tomorow... perhaps that can wait a month
jurov: and that noisy exhaust... too, prolly
jurov: i'm just poking some fun to lyspooner
Lyspooner: so why should you be worth more than mtgox?
jurov: cause mircea is exponential
Lyspooner: from BFL apparently: ""We'll notify you at least a week before your order is ready and you can send your FPGA in. We are working on a way to cross ship you the device, so you don't have any downtime. It will probably involve you sending us BTC for the amount of the device and we'll refund the BTC when we get your FPGA unit back."
mircea_popescu: <jurov> cause mircea is exponential <<< lol phrase of the year.
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner do you even have currency exchanges in your country ? as an independent business i mean
Lyspooner: currency exchanges exist in my country
mircea_popescu: ok. do you see how one of them would compare to the stock exchange ?
Lyspooner: i could compare their earnings, yes
Lyspooner: they have earnings in some sort of real number
mircea_popescu: no but i mean, exchange house makes x, stock exchange makes y
Lyspooner: but mtgox:currency exchange::mpex:stock exchange isn't a fair analogy
Lyspooner: well if it is a fair analogy then it has been a fair analogy for the past two years
mircea_popescu: and also because irl currency exchanges are in a much better relation to the respective govts
mircea_popescu: for instance, irl an exchanger is bled try in taxes and reg costs, but also protected, because you need a license to do it.
Lyspooner: mtgox merchant solutions is a nice component of their business
mircea_popescu: understand, it's not like i have a deathwish for mtgox or anything. they're doing something valuable and so on.
Lyspooner: ok, but for the same reasons there may be many stock exchanges to compete against mpex
mircea_popescu: not really. you need a lot more credibility to make a mpex than to trade usd for btc or back
Lyspooner: is that why you have such great PR work on the forums
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.0004989 = 13.2707 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2509 @ 0.00050181 = 1.259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00050715 = 0.8368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19241 @ 0.0005077 = 9.7687 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: what percentage would rather just have sex with bacon?
smickles: thestringpuller: that is likely going to be 90% or more for 'mericans
jurov: more useful is trading passwords for candy
jurov: if btctalk enabled instant candy transfers, it would melt down
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21471 @ 0.0005077 = 10.9008 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29529 @ 0.00050784 = 14.996 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13971 @ 0.00050784 = 7.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14120 @ 0.00050914 = 7.1891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00050928 = 11.1532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1009 @ 0.00050937 = 0.514 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17167 @ 0.00050937 = 8.7444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00050938 = 12.0978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00050962 = 17.3526 BTC [+]
jurov: the K.KBRL plot thickens
Garr255: but the game is going well, off to a bit of a slow start though
kakobrekla: i dont see how this could possibly end well
Garr255: kakobrekla, for some people it won't, for others it will. that's how these games work.
Garr255: definitely don't ever treat a game like this as an "investment"
kakobrekla: add "for you" at the end of first statement
kakobrekla: not gonna stand in the way just a word of warning
jurov: Garr255, you can incorporate mpex bonds in the game.. for fun and profit
kakobrekla: "fun and profit" seems like something is missing in that phrase... aa i got it "fun, profit and milk"
jurov: or at least satoshidice. or both
Garr255: That would be cool, but I think it'll be best to keep it as straight forward as possible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44450 @ 0.00051 = 22.6695 BTC [+]