jurov: in mircealand, 5k is large. Not 200 :D
BTC-Mining: You're almost right on for 5k vs 200 too
BTC-Mining: I'm assuming 5k being among the large deposit based on certain large orders.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16639 @ 0.00050449 = 8.3942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14661 @ 0.00050575 = 7.4148 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you know, i've been processing for everyone if pinged, no relation to size.
jurov: ofc. just wanted to joke about the "large" adjective
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13908 @ 0.0005063 = 7.0416 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8946 @ 0.00049903 = 4.4643 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7654 @ 0.0004988 = 3.8178 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: the only one arguing now is pretteymuch katz
kakobrekla: the rest just want to slap some reality into him or smth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.0004988 = 4.6139 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli_ the great advantage of hiring women to do your dirty work
mircea_popescu: dawg, what do i care what joel k. nobody does or doesn't do ? does he own something ? is he somebody ? why'd i give a fuck exactly ?
mircea_popescu: he and the girl can argue till one drops dead as far as i'm concerned
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00049744 = 3.6313 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00049744 = 16.6642 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00049564 = 13.0106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00049525 = 4.8782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22866 @ 0.00049525 = 11.3244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12834 @ 0.00049522 = 6.3557 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00049591 = 2.5291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00049634 = 18.6624 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The charity Childline says a girl born in South Africa is more likely to be raped in her lifetime than learn to read.
EskimoBob: Guardian had a good article about charities. Their main goal is not to fix the problems but to spread panic so they can get more and more money. And this was not about some small 1 day projects.
EskimoBob: this money is wasted on all sorts of bs and make the fuckers rich who run the charity. "What about children..." scams work every time
EskimoBob: I bet, you old pervert mircea_popescu were, searching for negro rape porn but ran in to a SA charity article ... lol
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00049513 = 8.8876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2254 @ 0.00049492 = 1.1155 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: they don't exist to do their stated job, they exist to pay the salaries of those involved.
EskimoBob: I can not find this article but it was also talking about how kids are now days scared of grownups and how things are gone so bad that people do not even help kids on the street because they can be later charged for who knows what. "protect children" charities have huge role on this
EskimoBob: actually the comment for this article where really informative. Some of the stories, damn
mircea_popescu: i know a couple of different people who left the uk after the 2003 law requiring men "obtain positive agreement at all stages of intercourse" or some such bs
mircea_popescu: and these are people worth well in the 10s of millions.
EskimoBob: there was this one guy telling teh story how a he was on the playground with his kid and someone else kid gut stuck and nobody helped her because of possible sexual assault charges for "touching her"... I mean WTF! All the dad where standing around and did NOTHING. All scared shitless
EskimoBob: so they had to get women as witnesses to even help that kid
EskimoBob: I have kids and reading this shit was brr.... really strange
mircea_popescu: it's all this self feeding stupidity, kids these days believe about 1/3 of the general population is gay, cause that's what they get shown on tv and is implied in school
mircea_popescu: male gays are still the 3% they always were. lesbians still the half percent.
mircea_popescu: i doubt people actually sexually interested in children are one in ten thousand, but the general consensus seems to be "over 100%"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00049634 = 0.3474 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00049708 = 4.9708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28256 @ 0.00049708 = 14.0455 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.000497 = 16.1277 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19690 @ 0.00049614 = 9.769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4660 @ 0.00049446 = 2.3042 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19679 @ 0.00049919 = 9.8236 BTC [+]
jurov: yup, earned 5 BTC for drawing :)
jurov: guess having kakobrekla as contestant added some inspiration :P
jurov: ;;gettrust kakobrekla
jurov: not -10 anymore? good :)
jurov: ;;unrate kakobrekla
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jurov: not worth the fuss. fuck the fsa.
gribble: Successfully removed your rating for jurov.
mircea_popescu: in other news, augusto croppo wants to know what mpoe-pr's credentials are.
smickles: augusto c may not accept text on a screen as credentials
jurov: yesterday we just burned 2 hours together with smickles to get me loan... ended it all up by scanned doc with shopped signatures
jurov: cause lender does not know anything bout gpg
smickles: yeah, it was awesome, in a way
smickles: well, a contract was written up. I expected it to be double signed with pgp sigs, but they ended up printing it and using physical sigs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00049387 = 1.8767 BTC [-]
smickles: you'd have to ask jurov, i'm the third party in that thing
jurov: it's public, lemme dig the thread...
jurov: well, apparently this is around market standard lending rate nao.
mircea_popescu: Topic: §§§ Bitcoin Lending Thread - Currently 0 BTC available @ 9% per month (Read 190 times)
smickles: I should start a market competitor for these loans, i could just cash-advance on a credit card, charge a little bit on top and slaughter these rates
mircea_popescu: not really. the cost of underwriting these loans far exceeds any benefit.
mircea_popescu: you won't find a credit officer working for less than 100s of BTC PER LOAN.
smickles: and from the lendee's perspective, if i really needed a btc loan, at these rates, a cash advance on a cc to buy btc is one of at least 5 things i would look into b/f a direct btc loan
mircea_popescu: loans will exist as a market after behemoths a la s.dice/s.mpoe etc are fully floated and held by 1000s of people.
mircea_popescu: then things like buyouts etc will make sense financially, both as size and as risk.
jurov: i'm maxed out my bank+creditcard already.. and it does not accept s.mpoe as collateral
smickles: jurov: I hope you know that I meant no personal slight there :)
jurov: wat? i did not notice any :)
jurov: i considered non-bank loan but these whores ask more than 9% a month anyway
jurov: o mircea, you actually know some credit officer working for more than 100s of BTC PER LOAN?
jurov: not that i want more nao, but someday later
mircea_popescu: the credit officer is the person working for the lender that says yes or no to an application.
mircea_popescu: if they consider 100 applications in one month you owe them say 50`000 btc.
EskimoBob: borrowing btc at those rates is flat out stupid.
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob for sure it only makes sense if you're doing btc stuff.
mircea_popescu: (ie, you are using the loan denomination to eat your btc-collapse risks)
EskimoBob: actually borrowing anything at rates like that is absurd, unless this "stuff" has a massive inflation
smickles: jeebus, my market maker bot is at 92k in size, and I'm not even done
jurov: you mean LOC or BTC?
smickles: i would've said it in LOC, but it's across multiple files, so it'd not be worth it to add them up
jurov: well, my quasi-scalper has 40k, and it uses coinbr lib elsewhere. and was not even profitable
jurov: just very useful to test and find mpex bugs :P
smickles: clearly, you had too few k. that's why it wasn't profitable ;P
mircea_popescu: didn't you get a multi-trillion options position at some point in a db desync ?
jurov: hehe... s.mpoe was hard to scalp, too tight spread.. and options were possible.. if you waited days
jurov: mircea_popescu, sadly the attempt to slip withdrawal past you failed :/
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mircea_popescu: but hey, it did the same thing to smickles at some point
smickles: I'm consistantly baffled at the fact that things which seem so simple from a human perspective, are actually fucking complicated
mircea_popescu: "smickles you say ?! MOAR LIEK SCAMKES!!! BAN HJIM!!!!"