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knoobie: heard of a funny story taking event yesterday in here, so definitely decided to join... hahahah
mircea_popescu: of course, merely quantitative approaches do not work, lest you end up with a http://trilema.com/2017/the-ethics-of-liberty-by-murray-n-rothbard-adnotated-part-vi-a-crusoe-social-philosophy/#selection-299.0-299.217 style hacker in those entreprising new worlds bereft of any serious thought.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-07 21:01 mircea_popescu: leaving aside the remarkable poverty of reference, i'd like at least for the few popitems he uses to be at the fucking least correct!
mircea_popescu: ie what is informally referred to as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766620 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: just write out the exhaustive topiclist per item and then count links.
mircea_popescu: in any event hanbot 's attempt actually suggests an approach to quantifying the "That the republic readily exceeds the literate production of the combine of "modern democracies" should be unsurprising ; that they sorry shelters of the stunted ever manage to reach its quality is altogether dubious." claim.
BingoBoingo: And then there's OCLC which ends any attempt at sense and soley exists to keep catgenders employed
BingoBoingo: Right, but the insanity gets worse with the Library of congress system
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, the argument may be brought that dewey was a terrible cost upon human culture and ~the reason us never amounted to anything : the tendency to pick a topic is not unlike the tendency to pick a gender. "i can't think now, since i'm a girl" sorta bs.)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the problem with books in a library isn't even that terrifying, seeing how they usually pick a topic. trilema article picks like a dozen, ikt's all about the interlinks.
BingoBoingo: And this is how cutter numbers get long...
hanbot: aha. well a lot of the options on the page atm are just an attempt to offer...more options to folks, lol. typically when i have the missing article problem with trilema it's along the lines of "what was that piece about korea, there was some history in it and a picture, and it was after 2015". not exactly an exhaustive list of checked parameters
mircea_popescu: this actually may be the like... ONE known case to date where i'd rather go to the site and click buttons than type in !~tadb comments=1&blabla
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is that the syntax is complex, if I want to search for something i have to remember what's what.
hanbot: anyway i'm happy to change to get so stuff can be played with.
mircea_popescu: can always waylay the possibly-useful later on, not like we don't know whose mind works.
hanbot: i was thinking it'd have to be checked, but sure, could open a door best kept closed, i get it
mircea_popescu: hanbot on meditation, i think it belongs into discreet. i think the idea is very sensitive to idiots "helping", you really don't want rando "contributing"
mircea_popescu: but would they practically ?
hanbot: anyway i used post over get because of the (3k?) char limit on get --if someone has a lot of terms to put through, the url could get ginormous
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> comments welcome! << you could put grabbing a chunk of trilema to index in there, possibly --though the activity doesn't force presence/participation here in chan
mircea_popescu: but what do i know, i dun have fifty +1/+1 green beret cultural experts on the ground to write me briefs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mats i don't expect isis is more islamic than "fuck the us".
mats: its interesting that isis has found sympathizers in south east asia, which has a syncretic islam
mircea_popescu: aand in other lulz from the meatmarkets, "lady_canesworth".
mircea_popescu: PIZDI NO PILI, BITCHES! and next time say what and where you read that gave you teh existential angst.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767528 << lmao argentina coincidentally waking up to "hey, everyone thinks you're shitheads" after half a century of happy solipsism. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but how do i get my query out to it ?
shinohai: I am pondering that mircea_popescu ... as hanbot said it would be tedious to dump a bunch of links directly to chan, so I was thinking maybe to a paste.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a good thing the usg "coallition" totally won the isis war.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767519 <<< o look, when the saudis "bought" that piece of shit it ... wasn't "corruption" and the saudi state very much does not need to take measure to eliminate the "corruption" of giving usg money. it's only when non-usg gets dough that the idiot neets need to stand up and herpderp on social media about "corruption" amirite ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai hanbot maybe posting the form via get would allow me to search directly ? or how'd i use this a la !#s ?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ << reviewed this yet again, mostly to include / fix ben_vulpes links and some changes to structure (merged irc bot, v impl and following the guides (which was in red before?!) all into section V, orange.)
shinohai: I'd tell them to piss off back to their own country, they can try to reclaim the Faklands if they want a vacation spot.
jhvh1: trinque: The operation succeeded.
trinque: !~later tell Birdman put a 0 in front of that .0185
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Tomorrow at the meeting do you want me to inquire if the datacenter has space at their hall on the other side of town for tiny thing colo, or is that too close when measured in internet cables?
shinohai: "There is a distinct possibility that the United States might have supplied the FLIR Systems turret the Yemenis claimed to have employed during this shoot down." <<<< lulzy mats
shinohai: ^ for those that wish to handily refer to link quickly here in forum
danielpbarron: read that
danielpbarron: and i should had you invoice me for that matter
danielpbarron: also should probably get him to invoice you
danielpbarron: yeah i started with some lil wayne and now they are making stuff up on the spot i guess
l0de: I can't help it, I'm a troll
l0de: they will eventually ban you if you go too far
l0de: yeah there are some good rappers in there
danielpbarron: i'm in the freestyle voice now, pretty dope
l0de: those guys are cool on that discord
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/lucy/ << Trilema - Lucy
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 00:52 deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/01/the-trilema-article-database-a-toollet/ << The Whet - The Trilema Article Database, a toollet.
mircea_popescu: in short, i don't want to read what sort of code apple wrote ; i want apple to never write any code again as long as any of them live.
mircea_popescu: consider : if microsoft word worked correctly, I WOULDN'T EVEN NEED TO READ ITS CODE. not because "oh, practically no need" but because I WOULD ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT SAID. because there's no other way to say it.
mircea_popescu: the point is to force the sort of people who are actually insane out of the production process entirely ; and to keep them out permanently.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767465 << this also serves as a better statement of naggum's "free software failed" argument. it is ~worthless to obtain access to insanity mechanized. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: e impressed by the insanity made manifest.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 17:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1486970 << you know, the proposition that drugs enhance the mind is not so unlikely from the proposition that hanging polished stones of various colors, dead parrots and other detritus from the weights of a grandfather clock improve its timekeeping accuracy.
mircea_popescu: also re "epicycles", should prolly link http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1487207 (or the other one, iirc we had a better discussion somewhewre as to how actual clocks were "hacked" over time to catch up with the moving solar function, resulting in these cvasi-organic piles of patches upon patches making the original mechanism barely comprehensible). imo the better example ; anyone who's seen a medieval clock can't help but b ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in fact all code is first and foremost literary work. that (some of it) machines can run is about as interesting as which kinds of smoothies flies favour.
asciilifeform: mod6: the discussion of disassembly was a separate one, concerning audit of 'wtf actually comes out of this-here gnat'
asciilifeform: it is a simple guide to the making of sane arithmetron. that can be hand-compiled with reasonable effort to whatever arch.
asciilifeform: it is worth to keep in mind that ffa is , to steal from knuth, 'for readers to read first, and for machine to execute second'
asciilifeform: and yes you also get to unroll for particular bitness
asciilifeform: mod6: in a from-the-ground asming, you dun need to do the ruinously expensive synthetic carryflag thing
mod6: or did i hallucinate that?
mod6: i may be mis-remembering this, just thought there was a plan to take the disassembly and produce asm that you would then fabricate possibly?
asciilifeform: this being said, whether to build with -gnatp is personal choice of the operator. not mine.
asciilifeform: ( ffa specifically. in ffa_calc, very obviously they do , in the stack mechanism . however the inner loops, i.e. 99.9999...% of the time is spent, in ffa proper. )
asciilifeform: ffa is one of the very few ( i dun expect to see another ) proggies where you can prove bounds. because the array indices do not EVER depend on the inputs.
asciilifeform: figure applies to errything. i.e. for any given nontrivial ada proggy, the cost of the checks is about 2x.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-06 23:05 asciilifeform: if one is satisfied with the nonoverflowability of the array refs , under all possible inputs , it is possible to yank'em. and get order-of-magnitude speedup.
mod6: asciilifeform: you're gonna do the asm unroll with the bounds checks tho right/
a111: Logged on 2018-01-06 23:05 asciilifeform: btw i prolly oughta have mentioned, the timing figures (not only in ch6, but all posted to date) presume that ~all~ bounds-checks remain enabled.
mircea_popescu: oh, this is actually BingoBoingo 's field huh ?
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> also not sure it's sufficiently detailed to handle the occult topics...what is the number for anal torture? but i'll have a looksy anyhow << It's there. The time consuming part is the cutter numbers after the .
mircea_popescu: hanbot it can get pretty fucking 9 digit detailed. i just vaguely remember the general leads
mircea_popescu: (tbh, i think it's somewhat shameful the item doesn't come preloaded as a default in wordpress ; it SHOULD by rights, that's what fucking culture is about in the first place, offer the classes preloaded ffs.)
hanbot: also not sure it's sufficiently detailed to handle the occult topics...what is the number for anal torture? but i'll have a looksy anyhow
mircea_popescu has toyed with the idea of replacing current "Categories" with some kind of dewey-ism.
mircea_popescu: well, to the sort of people who have it preloaded in their heads, it'd offer an advantage of convenience. also perhaps machine-classifiable.
mircea_popescu: (geography and travel in south america)
mircea_popescu: i'm vaguely curious how useful this'd be, "article X includes 003/101/209/309/402/801/908 !" ☟︎
mod6: mircea_popescu: hey, ok! way behind on things, but otherwise good.
mircea_popescu: hanbot looked into the dewey decimal system btw ?
hanbot: okay then. diminunizing claims!
mircea_popescu: wikileaks not really that big.
hanbot: ohshit, even with all the wikileaks itams?
mircea_popescu: but... maybe in time.
BingoBoingo: a toilset!
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/01/the-trilema-article-database-a-toollet/ << The Whet - The Trilema Article Database, a toollet. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suspect that secret consists of alf not having looked at anything other than.
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's admittedly distant perch, loox as if cn knew the seekret of 'eternal '80s'
mircea_popescu: a lot has changed since the 80s
mircea_popescu: (contrary to what literary personages like to pretend, there's no hardware hack for this, can parade all the missile trucks they want, it's still a literary phenomenon.)
mircea_popescu: what it costs them is being taken seriously.
mircea_popescu: well, the fanfics are in the business of credibility, generally.
asciilifeform: all they gotta do is step on fud gas, then unstep
asciilifeform: not clear to me what it costs chinese ck
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 15:09 mircea_popescu: which is how every god damned kid that was sexually abused through the process of socialist schooling (which is all of them -- education is education, and socialist school is definitionally sexual abuse of all children involved) ends up with the idea that newton sat down TO discover whatever he did (unimportant, really) and THEREFORE he did.
mircea_popescu: people who were abused in their childhood under the guise of "education" (ie, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679600 ) fail to realise that... everything is an engine. including repeatedly stepping on a rake in the grass, or geting the plague. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: costs them more to run it than it makes them, but, by all means, please, more of the wahwahwah special cuntlet behaviour, i don't mind.