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mircea_popescu: whether you go "everyone takes exam, bottom 10% get hung by those poles in schoolyard" or you go "nobody has to do anything and i can't explain all this cutting and anorexia", it makes entirely no difference.
mircea_popescu: understand, antrhiopology is not optional, this isn't some kind of elective course. in year X, Y must be done. "not doing it" isn't meaningful -- Y' will still be done, with shitty results.
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'tiny but clever population standing up to maxint orcs by way of robot and deathray' is ~the~ american geofantasy; isn't working out so well for them
mircea_popescu: but populace eminently is not the criteria, which is why the "totally not a dating site" "community" of fetlife can't stand up to... me.
mircea_popescu: he didn't live in a world where this was possible. but by 1980 -- eminently doable.
mircea_popescu: i just see it as wankers, the sort that could participate but doesn't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, isn't "secret logs" === whisperers ?
asciilifeform: (spoiler -- didn't help)
mircea_popescu: the only unexpected element is the discovery that the population of fucktards ~wasn't actually relevant~ for the republic.
asciilifeform can see with unarmed eye that they weren't
mircea_popescu: the people involved weren't ~stupid~, see. notwithstanding what the officious jews "all agreed".
mircea_popescu: the key ingredient for the "shovel-and-wheelbarrow" mark in germany isn't so much the paper itself, as it is the individuals who'd have traded "all of this" for "any little of that".
mircea_popescu: moreover, currency collapse is always driven by naggum's idiots ("in order to be in a position where one must either strike or die, one must have put themselves into such a position, for instance by expecting to buy a lot of things they cou;dn't make"). the camp/blackface duality ( http://trilema.com/2017/pronouncements-on-camp/#selection-161.66-161.165 ) is very much apropos : without a "nouveau riche" class, ie, without a b
mircea_popescu: consequently, some at least cursory argument could be had that the price signals are substantially enough different to not be comparable (and god only knows how many man-hours the inept "intel" services of the firm of r, t & f spent trying to discern if official ruble is .5 or 4 to 1 dollars TRULY.)
mircea_popescu: rather, a "i don't know how to write sales copy" thing.
asciilifeform can't give a decently accurate answer, wasn't there
mircea_popescu: it's how the soviets did it, isn't it ? in that brief interval between when they died and when they fell.
mod6: unless he really just didn't like the guys shoes.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817939 << I don't think being too technical is necessarily a bad thing, but my own issue with ben_vulpes' original was that a) too 'cheesy' b) too much 'digging' to unearth the selling points. Conversely, I like how ave1's version is straight and to the point (e.g. bullet points of "why Pizarro" are front and center). Good skeleton imo ☝︎
asciilifeform can't picture any other reading, lol
mircea_popescu: i didn't include a description of how lb works.
mircea_popescu: nah, you lose nothing, there's a green button "release bitcoin" you don't click.
mircea_popescu: ted enough to issue a fake "mtcn" (number-password western union expects you to know), try to get you to release payment, and then pretend like they "cancelled" for whatever imaginary reasons when you come to complain western union didn't have it -- a splendid way to waste an hour or so in city traffic.
mircea_popescu: you can further expect a strong showing of scammers. these will be variations of "here's something, release payment". in about half the cases these are advanced enough to output some kind of official-looking falsified screenshot / whatever bizarro standards of visual certification of truth they use in their world (no, douchebag didn't come up with the screencapping on his own, it's a thing in his age-peer group, the "proof").
esthlos: I'm not free again until Friday evening, so I won't be able to respond or do anything until then
phf: crystal space has some complicated, xml based module system, and planeshift, i believe, approached that module system not necessarily from first principles either. i couldn't really devote enough time (and i spent couple of weeks on the whole thing the first time as it is) to figuring out how the whole thing is supposed to come together. it's definitely possible to run it on mac, but the effort literally costs more than buying a dedicated linux box
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817823 << the taps you're using are for previous release of eulora (which already had some odd issues on mac, but worked). i took a stab at updating them when the latest release came out, and enough targets moved that it was again non-trivial to build the stack. i've managed to hand build it/jerry rig homebrew to build it, but the result out of the box was working even worse (mostly i lost textures entirely). around t ☝︎
ben_vulpes: you won't notice lead in the water until your kids are born all fucked up either.
douchebag: ben_vulpes: I don't have iPhoto installed
ben_vulpes: it doesn't tile, what fucking great.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: the pushing of multigigabyte files to "your" computer doesn't make you pucker at running gpg on the thing?
douchebag: LordMPofTMSR: I know, I just haven't seen evidence proving MacOS is comprimised other than the fact that it's a large company
LordMPofTMSR: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817840 << this is not so different from saying "i have plenty of blood, and if the lice wants to get it they'll get it regardless." hygiene is not directly a consideration of denying the alimentary cycle of parasytes ; it's rather a question of self-respect, and in the 2nd line a question of socialization, because no matter how cool you might be "otherwise", at least some chicks won't fuck you with lice no matter ☝︎
douchebag: Even though most Linux applications work just fine with MacOS, a lot of them don't.
ben_vulpes: brew edit $formula might help, but i ditched the mac nigh for reasons of pervasive upgradism like this a year ago, haven't looked back, can't suggest that you spend much time doing battle with republican softs on the crapple.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817710 << yes, i seem to make these kind of homonym errors a lot actually, and i reread the sentence every time, but don't see it until the issue is pointed out. ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: wouldn't put it past either the usg or cn engineering departments to fail at recreating the su rf-illuminated snooper but to screw up the power by a few orders of magnitude
mircea_popescu: you want to not credit it, don't. you want nobody to credit it, HAVE MORE FRIENDS.
asciilifeform: they're cheap, but observe what happened to the ones that wouldn't reliably play ball with hitler. all of the current goxes exist by crown sufferance, afaik.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817713 << I'm unfamiliar. I found this: http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-117184 But I don't understand. Many things here I struggle to understand in real time, in this case at all. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so basically your objection is "why don't i have more friends" ? i dunno, why don't you ?
mircea_popescu: i don['t follow.
mircea_popescu: alright! so then what is the problem ? you wanna use gox for settlement, you're allowed. you don't wanna, there's an alternative scheme. you wanna use something else, all the better.
asciilifeform: there's a substitute that doesn't use gox temperatures for anything ?!
mircea_popescu: and no, it's not because of girly reason-substitute ("oh, it's too hard, rite, that's why you don't spend your life rasiing my spawn, because you ain't got what it takes!!!!") either.
mircea_popescu: it's not that "nobody can be arsed". is that, unlike asciilifeform , nobody regards website-with-random-numbers as relevant. i also don't spend my time trying to "be mentioned by new york times".
mircea_popescu: but yes, your intuition is broadly correct : usg lacks both the actual size and the self-perceived size of soviet russia. as a result, they don't come out with a "x per rouble" statement.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 16:26 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possibly they dun trust the employees to handle cash ? or aren't contracted with cash van co.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: possibly they dun trust the employees to handle cash ? or aren't contracted with cash van co. << Also common here
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possibly they dun trust the employees to handle cash ? or aren't contracted with cash van co. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 14:49 spyked: ave1, ^ if the error looks too cryptic, or if you've encountered it on broken systems -- or if you know that the system compiler is used at all, then don't let me waste your time. can report again after experimenting on system with proper gcc.
phf: (i think a proper lisp interface ought to separate pathname defaults from the name pattern, so you call it like (m-t-d "fooXXX" #p"/tmp/") but return #p"/tmp/fooabc/". that's not a consequential concern for anyone except for me though)
spyked: ave1, ^ if the error looks too cryptic, or if you've encountered it on broken systems -- or if you know that the system compiler is used at all, then don't let me waste your time. can report again after experimenting on system with proper gcc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: nope, still doesnt't show from your main page
Mocky: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-23#361703 << you weren't supposed to read that...
mircea_popescu: comparable to how copernicus needn't have been concerned re how the scholastics all agreed with themselves. of course they did, as part and parcel of what their cognitive system evben was, "consensus interpretations of aristotle".
mircea_popescu: it basically makes sure you can always talk to the box, even if apache maxes out, you won't be locked out of using say ssh.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: check my understanding of a thing please: if apache runs its own php pool, then user-level cgroups won't affect how much ram apache eats while serving a user's php, right?
ben_vulpes: heh freenode webchat doesn't use ssl omfg!
ben_vulpes: dooooon't care, just stoppit. spend more time watching and listening and learning the cultural norms and if you're going to deliberately not follow them then i'm interested in your good reason per http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-23#361418
ben_vulpes: which i can't even fathom dude because wtf you're willing to clutter up the logs with line after line of key noise and then otoh...screenshots
danielpbarron: that you care about your bad reputation goes a long way for me, but i can't say there is anything in particular you can do to remedy. if you don't do anything else annoying i'll prolly switch it to positive the next time i go through my ratings.
ben_vulpes: well he wasn't pimping, they were chained
mircea_popescu: for instance : given "he wondered why the girlies walked to the station and didn't shoot the redditard" the implicit read is "(he wondered why (the girlies (walked to the station) and (didn't shoot the redditard)))" not "(he wondered why (the girlies walked to the station) and (didn't shoot the redditard))"
ben_vulpes: he wondered why the girlies walked to the station and didn't shoot the redditard
ben_vulpes: i don't have notes on this, he may contradict, but that is my memory.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: objected to walking two grand usd over the the dc; shit was busy at the time and i didn't press.
mircea_popescu: wasn';t it a "$5 if up to 50 bux, $20 if up to 100 bux, $75 if up to 1k which is max" or somesuch ?
ben_vulpes: iirc the stumbling block to a single transaction is that we want to avoid pushing BingoBoingo's local account over the minimum tax line. with i think the local equiv. of an llc BingoBoingo can receive money and it won't count as his income until it hits his account.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i might as well put it in the open : if anyone in the l1 / my wot is trying to buy bitcoin but has trouble doing so, i'll sell you a few as a courtesy so we don't find ourselves in this situation where clerical difficulties enact a division in the republic.
trinque: doesn't look like the whole picture, but I'm not going to piece it together myself
esthlos: but i don't know, probably just have to grow up
asciilifeform: i don't demand the frictionless wheel, mircea_popescu . but currently all of the 'wheels' aint even round.
trinque: esthlos: doesn't seem to me that the compartmentalization is anything other than a skill. only why be sad about it
trinque: aaa that's it! too bad search hasn't eaten the linked items yet
asciilifeform: it bothers me that i can't even picture what a successful cut away of goxism would look like.
mircea_popescu: i haven't been following so closely. iirc they at some point wanted i dun recall what paperwork, i sneered and turned off the light.
asciilifeform: on top of this, i haven't, i suspect, the table stakes.
asciilifeform: Mocky: no, and don't intend to.
mircea_popescu: esthlos, i don't know!
douchebag: Aside from that, I don't really see what's bad about a responsible disclosure policy. I don't believe that asking people to not fuck your shit up in exchange for payment is too much to ask
douchebag: Well I've been paid via bitcoin through hackerone before. Oh and yeah, I don't agree with the code of conduct shit either, but it's whatever. It's worth considering that all of these companies have a dedicated security team patching the vulnerabilities found, triagers are being paid to validate reports, and obviously people who make these reports are being paid.
mircea_popescu: "the student should just have played along with the http://trilema.com/2014/kink-high/ du jour" "perhaps the student should have, but we're gathered here specifically because we don't."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817310 << fucking can't have 1600s style "examinations on the doctrine of the faith", chiefly because of goedel's objection. our doctrine is not actually either complete or coherent. ☝︎☟︎
Mocky: that sounds like an interesting effect. I don't see that I'd ever come to even think about such a thing on my own.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 02:46 trinque sees the complexity, because what, you want the young males to change their mind every time they encounter words they don't understand? of course not.
esthlos: I don't have much more to say on the matter
esthlos: hmm, I don't know you well enough to speak to that.
douchebag: esthlos: Well, generally speaking I don't assume I'm right or wrong without some sort of evidence.
trinque: douchebag: being unteachable isn't a merit.
douchebag: trinque: Well, I don't think my over confidence is necessarily a coping mechanism. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong, however I'm a very strong willed and I'm not afraid to argue if I truly believe that I am in the right.
trinque sees the complexity, because what, you want the young males to change their mind every time they encounter words they don't understand? of course not. ☟︎
trinque: yeah, I didn't even know about that feature myself, very cool.
esthlos: I don't want to keep rambling. my point is, I think you're somewhat irrational, and your approach is weak supporting evidence to that, though it's a step in the right direction. hence you're a -1, not a -3
douchebag: In addition to that, I'd like to know what those issues are so they don't occur again
esthlos: (though it is exactly typical of a young guy in the situation, but you don't want to be like every other bozo, right?) plus, the spam with the whores annoyed me, and cutsey shit like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816061 , and doing the minimum possible to get a job done multiple times ☝︎
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817173 << well in all honesty, I'm not sure I understand what wot ratings mean, since I don't see where negative ratings fit in to http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/#selection-289.0-297.96 . I rated you -1 because I detect a self-image not fitting a young guy making 35K a year for 60 hrs/week, which ultimately filters down to your ability to think rationally. ☝︎
douchebag: ssh-keyscan -t rsa github.com | sed "s/^[^ ]* //" > github.pub
asciilifeform: currently i can't decide whether d00d really wants to work on interesting problems, or is content to make cve lists in exchange for infinite supply of ice cream and a cot to sleep on.
mircea_popescu: well... it doesn't have to be that way. you simply must collapse the trees on the basis of the constructed image of the kid's mental structure, not on the basis of the subjective perception of importance.