asciilifeform: i came to this conclusion years ago. the hard way.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: without ability to make hardware, we have exercise in polishing brass on the titanic.

asciilifeform: unhinged?

asciilifeform: all else has c in the mix.

asciilifeform: there is no lispm.

asciilifeform: gcc is old.

asciilifeform: and so, the only remaining pill is ~age~

asciilifeform: but i am speaking of fundamental problem with the language.

asciilifeform: this also

asciilifeform: do you own a copy of the standard? obtain one and see.

asciilifeform: c++ does not fit in head.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-05#1534602 << i am not convinced that this is possible. ☝︎

asciilifeform: software stays written.

asciilifeform: would have happened sooner yet without microshit.

asciilifeform: long ago.

asciilifeform: trinque: the market value of programmer was doomed to zero.

asciilifeform: it was, and remains, the only escape hatch from microshit.

asciilifeform: trinque: but that's idiotic.

asciilifeform: the last thread had a quite complete summary of the history.

asciilifeform: i have 0 interest in using or improving facebook, either.

asciilifeform: work on llvm helps hitler more than it helps us.

asciilifeform: we had the thread.

asciilifeform: it is a work of evil, what.

asciilifeform: have fun

asciilifeform: aha lel you're gonna freezes it with 0 support for non-x86/arm, and sans ada?

asciilifeform: llvm is a work of evil and i will actively avoid any project that rests on it.

asciilifeform: understand the difference.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-05#1534586 << ~maintains~ it. for own ends. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-05#1534601 << freebsd did same, and at the same time removed ~all~ entropy from rng. and distributed this crock of shit for year+. ☝︎

asciilifeform: lolk

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why not?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-04#1534197 << bought any? ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^3.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: answr'd^2.

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118813 << moar!111

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118811 << thing has 0 to do with socialists, communists, fascists, americans, the great zimbabwe, etc. it is wholly about hard limits on gluing ~reliable machine from unreliable components.

asciilifeform: aite.

asciilifeform: you can cache whole thing trivially, it's just a buncha jpg.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/byz/byz.html << 3111111117 w4r3z

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118809 << anyway.

asciilifeform: (which is lulzy because it is a, what, 1980 paper, pre-dates pdf)

asciilifeform: but it doesn't exist other than as pdf.

asciilifeform: well i could link to the original lamport

asciilifeform: http://marknelson.us/2007/07/23/byzantine << different intro, for n00bz

asciilifeform: ( http://www.drdobbs.com/article/print?articleId=206904396&siteSectionName=cpp redirects to the spamolade version , vs the 'printable' clean one, when refer header isn't equal to the spamolade page. very frustrating , and workaround would be good addition imho to archive.is )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118807 (queued)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-04#1534131 << http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118805 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/08bf32a1-9a94-439c-bf1e-186dbbbe9258/?raw=true

asciilifeform: $up ethereumhunter

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: fresh peaches.

asciilifeform: so no photo.

asciilifeform: hey i had a cake also but ate it

asciilifeform: photo is just a household item similar to mircea_popescu's cakes.

asciilifeform: nope, but the latter is coming up later tonight.

asciilifeform: ( http://www.loper-os.org/pub/motor_control.jpg << contents of tool )

asciilifeform: thing they're attached to is supposed to supply up to 800w peak without burping.

asciilifeform: right now they're just playing 'music'

asciilifeform: fat little buggers, around 2kg each

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: in less-newsy news, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/motor_test.jpg .

asciilifeform: (maintaining delusions of pension for millions of office plankton, etc)

asciilifeform: well, there ~is~ the usual ~impractical~ use

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-03#1534046 << sooo as i understand, euro depositors are in full mtgox mode?? ('we'd love to withdraw everything, but then the mousetrap will shut') ☝︎

asciilifeform: https://www.igolder.com/kyc << incredibly lulzy attempt to spin the compliance with usgism as a 'voluntary' and 'freedom-enabling' act

asciilifeform: '...To learn more about the Bitcoin protocol and its feature, please watch "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4L7xDNCmA (Bitcoin 2012 London: Mike Hearn).'

asciilifeform: but the best part,

asciilifeform: y and security as our server is always vulnerable to confiscation. ...'

asciilifeform: 'Since iGolder has a central point of failure (our server may be raided by thugs wearing some kind of uniform), we feet it is safer for us to cease operations. The iGolder experiment has been personally rewarding as we met many gold enthusiasts and also learned about Bitcoin in the process. For those who have no idea what Bitcoin is, we recommend doing your own research. Bitcoin is far superior to iGolder in every way, both in privac

asciilifeform: diana_coman: np

asciilifeform: ^ one of the stars of the 'braindamaged keygen' zoo also

asciilifeform: $s igolder

asciilifeform: btw,

asciilifeform: eh, here chump must generate key somewhere..

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-03#1533970 << hey we already had 'keybase'... ☝︎

asciilifeform: depressingly familiar mass delusion (quite like, e.g., the tor thing.)

asciilifeform: it isn't complicated.

asciilifeform: how many of the 'privacy!1111' fanbois took the time to understand the algo ?

asciilifeform: the ~approach~ i am seeing among monerists - 'it's a black box, i'ma assume it does the claimed magic' is also concerning.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-03#1533893 << ah lel, we have it already. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-03#1533894 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1532069 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: at best.

asciilifeform: and any chain of logic predicated on it being a thing, leads to ignominious usg captivity and arse waltz.

asciilifeform: it is not a thing.

asciilifeform: there are no 'darknets'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-03#1533882 << is it a difficult concept that THERE IS NO SUCH THING as 'DNM', because there is no such thing as DN !? ☝︎

asciilifeform: lel new colour revolution

asciilifeform: http://oglaf.com/son-of-kronar << oblig.

asciilifeform: well, no, some contrived item, closer to oil drilling.

asciilifeform: picture, if you will, if tomorrow some tech were introduced that required operator to lactate.

asciilifeform: this is not so far out.

asciilifeform: same way, e.g., aramco came to exist.

asciilifeform: True Man would dirty his hands with no such thing. or sumthing.

asciilifeform: i have nfi if this tale is true, but there is another, steve dutch (geologist, i linked to a few of his pieces) reported that arabs initially had serious problems with oil well maintenance when no migrant worker could be found to wash a part, oil a machine, etc.

asciilifeform: or so it went.

asciilifeform: (refueling was seen as 'dirty' work, unfit for manly man etc.)

asciilifeform: for some reason my immediate mental image now is the legendary newly oil-rich bedouins who, supposedly, abandoned mercedes in the desert rather than bothering to refuel it

asciilifeform: *to go.

asciilifeform: 'don't go there' is very simple algo when you have another 'there' to which to do.