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mircea_popescu: "and then you fly the belize flag from this to that port, and then..."
mircea_popescu: ie, you tell the people who want to go from x to y what to do to pay least.
mircea_popescu: back in the day (80s, but from the practitioners that day never changes, just moves), one of the best livings was "maritime juristidction expert".
asciilifeform: speaking of pierced pretenses, according to orlol ( and i've no way to verify ) a ru tanker is offloading a purchase of lng at boston harbour as we speak.
mircea_popescu: a gram for a fanciulla is already two standard deviations from the average of 0.05
mircea_popescu: (consider : 4bn females in the world, ~200 tonnes of gold all told. NOT THAT MUCH GOLD AVAILABLE.)
asciilifeform: ( the baikonur memoir linked earlier is good picture of how, but so is 9000 other works from the period )
asciilifeform: also asciilifeform was thinking, su ~had~ 'gutter', was simply implemented somewhat differently
mircea_popescu: and for a thousand pesos, ie about 60 bux, ie about a gram of gold give or take.
mircea_popescu: so jena's "gauntie sara" sells her to your girl rather than sending her to maryland college for pretentious cunts.
mircea_popescu: if you had daugthers, or if your girl did the god ordained http://trilema.com/2016/just-call-me-annah/ you'd know in short ordre why it's needed
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:28 asciilifeform: though this reminds me, this episode is a good illustration of one point where i disagree with mircea_popescu re the gutter -- i do not want the gutter or its inhabitants who cannot come out of it on their own power, for anything whatsoever. they bring with them the stench, and it never really washes off.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771026 << you don't understand why you want it because you ran into a sane woman, monogamize around and don't procreate. the inescapable gutter, foul as it is, is an absolute requirement for the education of children and young slavegirl. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chiefly ~found~. i dun look in male heads. prior to the republic, i only looked with power tools.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, the whole statement was correlation, causation left to the owner to discern.
asciilifeform: ( i dun see how specifically female , they are a universal plague )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-19#1410463 << a there we go. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun see the causative arrow's direction as obvious
mircea_popescu: apparently the gargauni are a major predictor of poverty. who coulda guessed &c.
asciilifeform: but prolly similar to mircea_popescu's specimens , fundamentally
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm moar closely familiar with the male variant, the spammers, misc scammers, halfwit malwarists, etc. who make somewhere below half of what renting a doghouse in ohio costs, but persist
mircea_popescu: even smaller cots, even tinier cells, even dirtier walls, it's something entirely else.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of them "nude concrete walls", you know it's evident from the pics of dumb-whore-on-meatmarket-thinking-itself-"domme" (as opposed to the dumb-whore-on-meatmarket-thinking-itself-slave) that they're THE POOREST of the meatmarket set ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:24 asciilifeform: notion being, he made that 75 'without working', moar emotional 'bang' from it than from 75k from dayjob
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771020 << yes, that "emotional bang" being exactly the idiocy of "i r independent woman hear me roar" idiocy-of-poverty in http://trilema.com/2014/the-death-of-taxes/#selection-185.608-185.781 (or for that matter http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-133.0-133.837 , or everywherew else.) ☝︎
asciilifeform: afaik it does not rearchive the already-archived ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also loox like the bot did archive ?
asciilifeform: i have a buncha dead tree, but i dunthink they contain all of dijkstra.
asciilifeform: ( really oughta grab the rest, similarly , before they become unobtainium )
mircea_popescu: it could sit there undisturbed for half a decade, then got fucked in the past half year.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 06:15 apeloyee: ...test their programs." (https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1036.html ))
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1770914 << classic or not classic, the wreckers set it so the bot no longer archives it. orig : https://archive.is/https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1036.html ☝︎
asciilifeform for some reason recalls the 'etaoin shrdlu' kbd
asciilifeform: i thought that was 'shoit'
mircea_popescu is starting to like this shiot typographic portmanteau of shot and shit. literally, government is in fact shiot.
mircea_popescu: course, as per tmsr this is not limited to computers, either. "women are bitter and unhappy because you threw away the leash and government is shiot because they're stuck doing without you. now come off it."
asciilifeform: i suspect that this disease goes right back to the 'omfg, Troo Thinker can't work with HANDS, like SLAVES! do' greeks.
asciilifeform: well yes. given as it's... tru
mircea_popescu: "computer became the domain of the half-educated, the hucksters, and the miscellaneous scum, because what passed for thinking people, ~surrendered~ it to them"
mircea_popescu: "i went into math so as not to have to do this damn it, if i wanted lab equipment in the house i'd have gone into physics" was very much heard by me with own ears 2-3 decades ago.
asciilifeform: dijkstra's -- imho well-founded -- pov was that computer became the domain of the half-educated, the hucksters, and the miscellaneous scum, because what passed for thinking people, ~surrendered~ it to them
mircea_popescu: this is a major problem ; i'm sure most of them are invested in this stability above all else.
asciilifeform: 'the vast majority of the mathematical community has never challenged its tacit assumption that doing mathematics will remain very much the same type of mental activity it has always been: new topics will come, flourish, and go as they have done in the past, but, the human brain being what it is, our ways of teaching, learning, and understanding mathematics, of problem solving, and of mathematical discovery will remain pretty much th
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this may be true ; not much my experience, but then again i never spent much time in either hospital.
asciilifeform: bitcoin, gpg, show every symptom of authorship by programmertards, rather than academitards -- quite different types of 'shambling walker', as far apart as typhoids and lepers
asciilifeform: ( there is naught else , aside from teaching duty, for slave, no bottles to wash in maths dept )
asciilifeform: the maths folk, they write longhand, and order grad student slave to texify.
mircea_popescu: i'm like... holy fuck. the computer does nothing else, ye ninny.
asciilifeform: 'excel' also. is king, among these.
mircea_popescu: so yes, there's a group, of size unknown, composed of poor and stupid mathematicians, who do idiotic things like write bitcoin for windows, write gnupg in python, etcetera.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 20:13 mircea_popescu: "# We use c=0.005 which has been experimentally found to be optimal in processing time for common PC under MS Windows and values of k of practical interest. A different c value may be desirable for use in different computing environments." << check it out asciilifeform ! IT IS SATOSHI ALL OVER AGAIN. why. WHY!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform poor & stupid. i can't shake the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767798 ; consider that you've not met either satoshi nor the other dood there discussed ; and not for lack of specifically trying. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i've yet to run across a maths type who ever touched it
mircea_popescu: shinohai maybe not, they're all poor & stupid mathematicians.
shinohai: Somewhere, someone is preparing an epidemic of ransomware to launch against users of this turd.
mircea_popescu: nah they had a "you don't need tex" thing
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 16:01 shinohai: http://archive.is/pU5zY <<< "Microsoft was faced with 8 (eight!)* new vulnerabilities in Equation Editor reported after their manual patch, they gave up on the idea of continuing manual support for it."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they did !
mircea_popescu: so go, what's in a going. or send the pet.
asciilifeform has been tempted to go ever since reading http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/CHECHILO/bajkonur.txt yearz ago
mircea_popescu: anyway, iirc they even had a "camp for whores that picked the wrong dickheads" there.
asciilifeform: i'm tempted to go, simply to find out.
mircea_popescu: also, usg not nearly on as short a leash as you imagine. you judge by lack of antibodies, which is how most viral infections are measured, but think -- another reason why no antibodies is available...\
mircea_popescu: afaik it's just the local retards doing their local retard things.
asciilifeform: i thought that's exactly how it was ?
mircea_popescu: which... afaik dun exist. only way i'd go there is if the russians invaded a decade ago and place was run by vory now.
mircea_popescu: eh, this is very naive. "pretty gurlz" only in the sense of trading with the mongol horde after it combed the rural shithole for the cream.
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't like the steppes. too... much space.
asciilifeform has not been there.
mircea_popescu: "It is a well-known fact that Illuminati consist of Multi Millionaires, Billionaires who have major influence regarding most global affairs, including the planning of a New World Order." << poor nigerians got left outta da loop. it's all billionaires nowadays yo.
mircea_popescu: consumer always gets the sharpest stick up its ass.
shinohai: http://archive.is/pU5zY <<< "Microsoft was faced with 8 (eight!)* new vulnerabilities in Equation Editor reported after their manual patch, they gave up on the idea of continuing manual support for it." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but yes, the browser was a terrible fucking idea. no wonder everyone ended up with "Browsers" in their "computer for dumbasses", the alternative was what, irc client ? that was not nearly as dumb.
asciilifeform: even turn it into an iron box
asciilifeform: hey, recall how asciilifeform tried to resurrect gpg, cut out the 'good part'...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's what i just said!
mircea_popescu: terrible. of course, the more flattering converse way to put it is "omfg i can't believe how much the republic grew in a coupla years".
asciilifeform: i'll confess that it made no sense to me then, and same now. browser ought to be buried, not nursed along.
mircea_popescu: the thing i linked him to, yes.
mircea_popescu can't believe just how utterly shitty his 2015 spec is. anyone read that thing recently ? please don't, i'm ashamed.
asciilifeform: trinque: first step is to genesis a gnat. ~then~ patches... a la trb
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 03:56 mircea_popescu: if your iq is over 90, going to work for google is the morally and economically wrong thing to do.
mircea_popescu: in the first place, what fucking browser, they're multiple, and closed turd vendor crap pushed by utter pantsuit like mozilla, a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770138 samovar. in the second place, the interface is TERRIBLE, and i don't just mean "what javascript" but also "what ssl, what pki, what dns, what the fuck". and then "what html soup, why did it crash, holy hell why does it leak secret data" and on and ON ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the perceived alternative, where you code against "the browser" may appear "easier" and "normal" in the sense of http://trilema.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/ ie "what everyone does", but if you sit down and make the comparison chart it becomes evident what a horrid solution it is.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1770890 << to be clear, the idea here is that you pick up the extant eulora client, gut it of the current eulora functionality, put eucrypt in there and proceed to implement your idea. this way you have a proved-to-cross-compile platform to start from. ☝︎☟︎
trinque: ave1: cool; if nothing else, I know I got what you meant to send
ave1: trinque, I understand, I will sign the tarball (after removing the diffs that are unused anyway) ☟︎
trinque: oh, so you're taking the "unsigned is fine" today?
asciilifeform: any and all versions thereof.
asciilifeform: trinque: gcc , gnat , themselves, also 'from side of the road'.
trinque: will yes, read, but unsigned, it's an item found by the side of the road
trinque: if you neither sign what you're offering nor offer hashes and links to where you got things, how am I supposed to evaluate whether I want to run this?
ave1: I fixed the link, the "gcc-4.9.adacore2016-musl.diff" and "gprbuild-gpl-2017-src-musl.diff" are mine, the others came from musl-cross
asciilifeform: if i had to guess, would guess that they were plucked out of some gentoo ebuilds
trinque: yeah I dunno I want to digest this in present form. would be nice to know which items came from where in "musl-cross" and which were edited by ave1
asciilifeform: their cumulative mass dwarfs , e.g., trb.
asciilifeform: wai all of these binutils patches ? really necessary for mere fact of building gnat ??
trinque: oh, I see how the link is broken
trinque: ave1: pls to remedy the above and I'll test this
trinque: also 404 on tarball, lol