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mircea_popescu: and in other blind trusts, http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgbmggCror1qaj9a3o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: can model the behaviour of same mouse.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:22 phf: trinque: the function used to be performed by a teacher with a ruler
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774947 << this is not clearly so. teacher with ruler function was to teach them bravery (more properly, unteach them the innate cowardice of human race). this is subtly different ; there's also a subtle difference between empathy as "capacity to model" and the bare capacity to model as such -- yes the similarity between mouse that loves a mouse and spider that eats a mouse is that they both ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently yahoo owns tumblr ? i had no idea.
mircea_popescu: THIRTEEN was the age of majority for french kinds. by then "they had seen a few wars, fucked a few horses, rode a few women, ready to rule"
mircea_popescu: ideal humanity would have constructed ladder of pseudouseful ("hey, make your own V!") to support the kids until they grow the fucking graybeard spontaneously on 3xth birthday so they don't go off the deep end as antsy 16yos/26yos with no release
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:04 trinque: which, it's sorta appropriate for the age. it's frankly someone else's fault the strapping lads aren't being forced into productive activity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774922 << truthfulyl, it's the fault of the complete disappearance of any kind of approachable useful activity. ☝︎
asciilifeform: or hanbot's vignette with the ducks
mircea_popescu: they weren't THAT bad, i ate a few myself.
asciilifeform: 'forgive me, bro' 'hey, i'll forgive, but phenolphthalein won't forgive, prepare to live in the toilet'
mircea_popescu: and ffs is more fundamental math than << ffa, obviously.
mircea_popescu: lol. he does, at that.
asciilifeform: ( ffa , yes, is made to work ~ on people ~ primarily )
mircea_popescu: what clouds your eyes is the notion that "civillian dun need to understand why, it will work for him". yes, but he has to understand why ~TO USE IT~. see ?
asciilifeform: ftr i do hope it can be made to work on folx who never read frege.
mircea_popescu: it is no such thing.
mircea_popescu: you are a terrible classifier, you know that ? seriously, ffa, 3rd grade ? what next, telekinesis, preschool ?
mircea_popescu: the big question is ~WHAT TO TAKE OUT~.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it's right in there with n-space extensions.
mircea_popescu: the notion of number requires a phd. and ffs is more fundamental math than things such as infinitesimal calculus.
asciilifeform: in that sense yea. ffa however is not frege, it is moar al-kwarizmus
mircea_popescu: the notion of gravity is not elementary. the notion of magnetism is so fucking elementary it was observed 1k years before electricity and it still lacks a proper model.
asciilifeform: i'd expect , they were mostly interested in dueling and cards
mircea_popescu: this is not because the notion of number "is light on math -- 3rd grade". but specifically because it is not. nothing odf the fucking sort.
mircea_popescu: you understand, in frege's day "inquiries into the nature of numbers" were VERY uninteresting to kids in teh gymnasium
asciilifeform: ( they dun teach longdiv till 3rd here )
phf: which 3rd grade is that?
asciilifeform: i found it interesting to consider, why winblowz '0days' exciting to 19yo n00b, but e.g. ffa -- not
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:03 trinque: kid was virtue signaling hard, "am strapping lad, going places!"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774921 << amusingly i read it as a "well, gotta put best foot forward and don best suit", kinda unconvinced of why or what the fuck subjhectively, "but what can you do". which is why i just ignored it, triggered none of my tripwires. while apparently hitting TWO DIFFERENT!!! immune system protein pathways in two different people. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:54 lobbes: It appears such to someone with actual skills such as phf. But for one for whom it is a "well, what else is there?", it seems like the rational move
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774916 << he has it exactly ; for all the "intrinsic humanity" blah blah, humans are contextual automatons. "it would have never occured me to x" is the most common comment in all natural languages, unvoiced because so fucking trite. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:52 phf: i can see the education angle, and how it fails these people, but what i'm surprised about is the lack of personal drive? it's some kind of learned helplessness
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774915 << guess how many girls never masturbate to orgasm and in what environments. lack of personal drive ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:47 lobbes: Never once did I encounter "interested in something? Here's how you could keep following that interest"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774912 << this is so fucking sad... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:36 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774783 << "org mode", i haven't found else with which to htmlize coad
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774906 << publish it sometime ; and also since on this trinque i'd like to use whatever wot.deedbot uses to spit the round svg graph to make a "trilema article links" thing. can i get it somewhere ? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, trident was actually a pretty great maker, in q/$ terms at least.
asciilifeform: iirc taiwan
mircea_popescu: tvga! wtf is that, tandy with serials altered ?
asciilifeform: ( i miss how quiet the 486 was , actually )
asciilifeform: lol the box of the era had maybe 1 fan -- in ps
mircea_popescu: and TRIPLE AGP SITTINGS!
mircea_popescu: fuck that, gime one of the vidcards with THREE FANS
asciilifeform: i dun think i ever had a box with vga but not at least an adlib in it
asciilifeform: i had 'adlib' by the time i got copy of civ
mircea_popescu: now this is going to run on loop in my house and the girls will lose their mind and come seek you alf and tear your liver out before your eyes
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A_HZAsa2Sw << thjere, 2mins in
phf: that was cm-500, it's got flatter soundbank than mt-32. but to be honest first time i heard either was after i moved to us, and it's frankly weird to hear all those classic tunes in such epic renditions. though i guess soundblaster that everyone had in ru wasn't bad either
asciilifeform realizes that he can, more or less, play back whole civ1 soundtrack in his head
mircea_popescu: twasnt the roland, wrong link. the gfx tricked me
asciilifeform: i never did have a roland tho
asciilifeform: i liked the 'ru' ( blatant 'дубинушка' ) intro. and ditto
mircea_popescu: anyway, it was the rondeau by mouret. but it never heard a proper variant played on like yopu klnow, actual fucking musical instruments, that i even half as much liked.
mircea_popescu: now i gotta find this.
mircea_popescu: in THAT specific variant, imo it gains a lot from the speaker.
asciilifeform: then thought 'wtf am i doing, wai'
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKsLWiPtSWY << teh english tune was for a while my favourite piece of music.
asciilifeform: i admit, i was tempted, last night, to actually debug the crash
mircea_popescu: but yes it was the damned intro. maybe it comes to me.
mircea_popescu: now if only i had a blog from 1993 i could dig in and find what the fix was.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that actually was a known problem at the time! i REMEBER THIS
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where's your logline saying "well, of course office drone is going to build by parts, wtf else is he gonna do"
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i tried to civ1 on that hp800 box, and it dies with div0 during the intro ( drops to shell, stays in 320*200 tho, and... music -- keeps playing!? somehow! )
mircea_popescu: lotta wasted time. phf has it, where's your edited civ savefiles ffs.\
asciilifeform: at 19 imho is on the border
asciilifeform: linked item is notable however because not a covox : it emulates the isa sb, which had a microcontroller, but ~without~ one, with raw ttl fsm
mircea_popescu: next he'll be going to conferences.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:23 trinque: fees have come *way* down.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774899 << the most concerning aspect to my eye is what asciilifeform calls "xp pointism" or whaty was it, basically he's swallowed the oreilly/pmarca hunk of nonsense and is scorting imaginary points "in" an imaginary "community". ☝︎
asciilifeform still has his somewhere, built inside one of those hardcases vhs tapes sometimes came in
mircea_popescu: did we do an "ye olde dacs on serial port" thread yet ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774880 << communism was harsh but at least it kept the idiots down.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:25 phf: if you're in the first category, you're going to be paid peanuts to do bitch work, if you're in the later category then by 19 (or whatever) "how to pentest career!1" is going to be ~the last fucking question~ you're going to ask a channel full of autodidacts
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774901 << fu, i went to school! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yes. and also it's not a proper "going to" anyway.
asciilifeform: in usa that's a 'department' but i hate the wurd
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:39 phf: afair though, the subset of commands that we have in vdiff can be reduced to portable awk (i had it working on mac os x), but i don't remember what the necessary changes are. someone mentioned that busybox awk fails..
mircea_popescu: also fyi, "faculty" is how you say the body of teachers, maybe. it dun has the ro meaning at all whatsoever. university would work, campus, whatever. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:29 spyked should take some photos next time he goes to the faculty; maybe grab some docs for the archaeologists
shinohai: "Benebit, one of this year’s most hyped ICOs, has pulled an exit scam .... The fraud only came to light after someone noticed that the team photos had been stolen from a school website."
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:26 asciilifeform: in su also folx made boxes like this.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774880 << communism was harsh but at least it kept the idiots down. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: we gotta have a conversation about gender balance and bias in this republic.
mircea_popescu: what, no transgendered people ?!
mircea_popescu: mod6 top of the list of potential inductees for this year methinks.
mod6: lobbes is doing good things huh
mircea_popescu: has nfi what the holes do but can tell you the bell rang at an unexpected time.
mircea_popescu: that's the modern "computer user" : the punchcard girl of ibm days.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:59 spyked: re naggum article, "programming is both similar and different. whether you are a user or a programmer these days is often hard to tell (this has good qualities to it, too)" <-- this user/programmer dichotomy being a direct consequence of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774116 maybe? ftr, /me started with a microcomputer and first thing he could do with it, by nature, was program it. even if the "program" consisted merely of LOAD ""
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774869 << no, it's because the boys wanted to grab ass so they introduced the punched card to have a reason to hire a buncha secretaries. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:53 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774737 << btw, ty ben_vulpes for writing this article. After I get archive .zip delivery up and running I will be taking time to get my castle in order. This will include: 1) learning 'v' 2) get a working trb 3) testing my damn fgs already 4) ffa chapter 1 (at least)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian has it. it's mostly used to denote taking the bus w/o a ticket / going to exam with a cheating mind.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "programming", in the sense (and i quote exactly), "I'm working in corporation in finance and procurement department, so I can sum up my life with : excel, excel, excel, SAP, a little bit more excel" is not actuially a job 90% opf the walkers can do.
asciilifeform: ( is there an engl word for it, btw ? )
mircea_popescu: ie, there's two ways to control overabundant supply : through price and through convention. the union is the latter mechanism.\
mircea_popescu: which is the traditional point of the expression "union town" : a job you ~could~ do, but won't be allowed to.