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asciilifeform: which i suppose is improvement on manually colouring the input with pencil, but grr.
asciilifeform: i.e. still stuck manually walking over the output errytime
mp_en_viaje: (but the "gotta take off hat" was pretty lulzy i must admit)
mp_en_viaje: which is why i chose this illustration. apparently helmputer can exist.
asciilifeform: srsly, i gotta take off hat, how often can you say 'engineered, built, did EXACTLY what was supposed to, with 8x margin'
asciilifeform: i wonder if builder was a former nuke maintainer. setup is suspiciously reminiscent of ye olde pit detonator setup.
asciilifeform: wtf am i looking at lol
asciilifeform: i expected to hear sumthingmoar like 'why machinegun is not rifle'
mp_en_viaje: you're not telling the whole truth here, seeing how even peh ended up with a stack. i know when i'm being led on, the computer's clearly not a calculator.
asciilifeform: it's still a calculator, lol. ( recall, 'computer' was simply name of a kind of shoemaker, i.e. d00d who would calculate repeatedly based on given 'loop' )
mp_en_viaje: i know what those are already.
mp_en_viaje: "hammer drives nails" "so if i ever need a nail driven i can use it ?" "definitely" "what's a computer do" "it kompyoots" "what's that ?" "umm..." "so what class of problem can it solve for me ?" "well, if you're one day bored..." "this never happens" "how about if you feel like helping many people you've never met ?" "..."
asciilifeform: i confess i dun see where is the problem. airplane flies, tho quite unlike sparrow, comp kompyoots, etc
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, it;s offensively fucking stupid, why i even mention it. nfi how otherwise bright minds end up with this sorta shit between the ears.
mp_en_viaje: i'm still not fucking agreeing with djikstra's hipsterism. "submarines can swim" from point a to point b. argentine submarines evidently can't fucking swim ; and djikstra's a fucking retard for imagining "moving through water" is a good model for "thinking". ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i suspect, slavish copy of philips )
asciilifeform: by 'edison' i meant specifically the classic filament one aha
mp_en_viaje: left me with large supply of spares, as i bought 3x the installed inventory, had not yet opportunity to change any.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i bought the "edison lamps", but the filament rather than the fake diode ones, fully expecting they'll go out in a month. they're still lighting cr fortress, easily 2, maybe even 3k hours later.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-16 22:04 asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
asciilifeform: srsly wtf, i wouldn't even have conceived of it as what someone would whine about.
asciilifeform: an' i dun recall anybody whining about spectra back in gas lamp days.
mp_en_viaje: sodium lamps are some of the highest efficiency, most voltage-variation tolerant light sources known. and by "some of" i mean the.
BingoBoingo: I doubt Detroit's electricity is clean enough to support diodes
asciilifeform: i did tell him, in (what i thought was passable) ro, then eng, we tried ru also, lol
mp_en_viaje: nfi what his issue is either, i left him a laptop for the express purpose, free of charge, all set up.
mp_en_viaje: i have no idea! conceivably tell him, "dood looky, this is entirely dependent on pgp". not get item you're not satisfied with, i dunno. complain at some point somewhere, so i don't find myself in this weird position where i'm asked about things i dunno about and dunno what to say ?
asciilifeform: fella won't pgp! what, i'm to buy plane ticket erry time ?
mp_en_viaje: i figure if nothing occured since 2017, might as well bury it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if you think s.nsa can get some mileage out of the item, let's keep it, otherwise plox to dispose, i cannot in good conscience try an' power it with own steam , gotta save the coinz for piz work
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i had nfi fridge dutifully preserved the contents in liquid helium and racked up bill, lol. entirely fair if mp_en_viaje invoices asciilifeform for same.
mp_en_viaje: i end up doing debugging of others affairs years later wth am i.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno dood, same as always, pay 3% income tax, get 16% discount on euro-vat for construction materials, have employer at your disposal for w/e purposes you might want to employ for, it's a list.
asciilifeform: ( also mp_en_viaje can pleez try an' convince fella to actually use pgp ? i tried in 3 languages, could not )
asciilifeform: i currently can't, but this does not mean there isn't one
asciilifeform: hanbot, mp_en_viaje : i assumed the service expired given as i did not go to renew.
asciilifeform: hanbot: item turned out to be obsoleted by BingoBoingo's work, as i understand. but i'ma let mp tell me how to properly dispose of it (or whether to try an' bring it back to life)
mp_en_viaje: i mean, what difference is there between a herd of "electorate" kept captive for just 2-3 chosen morons to "buy their votes", and a herd of "ambitious young women" kept captive for just 2-3 chosen morons to "seduce" them ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc ~this~ already for sale ( i even got a quote ) but sorta ridic. price (iirc 800k ameridubloons )
diana_coman: as I'm still digesting the whole thing, I still find that my mind keeps going on to "guild" more than to "political party" ; perhaps I see political party as too limited though I really just need to read more on it first (and admitedly, I doubt there is the guild form as such in Ro, lolz)
mp_en_viaje: i'm not going to break politics just because romanians gatherfed in large groups, did the student thing where everyone dropped a buck and thereby invented some schmuck "just as good as any Mircea come from afar"
diana_coman: but I have to admit that I wouldn't say that I actually have any political experience.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: politics is a very alien thing ; and tbh part of the exercise I see precisely in actually showing what that is as opposed to what it "came to be"; similar to what "afaceri" seems to mean if you look at "afaceristi" and so on
a111: Logged on 2016-01-21 13:29 asciilifeform: 'if i make it what i think is the right size, it crashes!111'
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well yes, I saw that (list includes parties that were registered, even if not existing anymore)
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dun care about results.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as i understand they have it already -- for what then need party.
asciilifeform: unless i misunderstand some part of this, the recipe adds up to a faster, moar streamlined version of ukraine
asciilifeform: entirely typical. as far back as i can remember, went exactly like so.
asciilifeform: i confess , try as i might i dun see the point ( in light of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-18#1826391 historical record ) but if mp_en_viaje sees point, who am i to say he oughtn't . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-08 08:50 mp_en_viaje: anyways, i'm not pushing for an insta-answer or anything ; but my thinking is if you both are interested an' nobody comes up with some major unseen flaw, ima draw a draft statute/documents w/e an' talk to my lawyer about it.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-08 08:11 mp_en_viaje: did i forget anything important ?
diana_coman: others (generally younger) who already have in fact the employer-master taking the food-responsibiliy off their shoulders will look up instead to usr/pdl/wtf (I can't quite recall whatever they are nowadays)
diana_coman: re ro politics, while my hometown is one in which ~everything is "political" (petrol industry), that part was always more about feathering X's or Y's nest so I wouldn't use that to get an idea of anything; onth re what I see as political, the way the situation in Ro reads to me is that ultimately people are desperately (and beyond i.e. without hope) looking for someone to take responsibility aka a master essentially.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-08 08:53 diana_coman: no; you can however spend it on something else and I somehow never manage to run out of "something else"; but yes, I can see the idea; I don't know about who is there to do all the work and get it all growing
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1911825 <-- tbh, other than the opportunity cost, I'm not even entirely sure of the details of *what* work this involves, i.e. cu ce se mananca. or whether I have what it takes etc. but I'm curious of the outcome, given the current state of ro politics. I live here, for one, so... ☝︎
diana_coman: I don't think there is much that in there; different sorts of ridoinculous as far as I can see i.e. the schmuck that found himself with money vs the schmucks that found themselves "writing a newspaper".
mp_en_viaje: very http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891911 flavour to it, as far as i can see. "oh my god, scandalous!!!". wtf, lame club grinding ☝︎
diana_coman: I had to switch to another machine to load that bzi stuff; that photo is basically "happy trio with various caps and beretts"
mp_en_viaje: imagine this fucking horror, some dork stabs you in your sleep and then it's like "here, let me tell you what i think about chick-fill-a"
diana_coman: and I'm quite sure it also ignores them down the line anyway i.e. whatever you tick or not tick, it still does the same thing
diana_coman: reading it now, I seriously doubt the dorks in question knew all the words in there
mp_en_viaje: why i don't regret the above booklet like i don't regret http://trilema.com/2011/sfinta-inocenta-puberala/
mp_en_viaje: but it did produce http://trilema.com/2013/romanias-new-right/#comment-93307 l which i daresay is one of the finest bits i ever wrote in romanian, not to mention a fineer piece than the iron guard ever produced
diana_coman: heh, I'm probably too much used to ground-up building work i.e. if starting that then will have to get it off the ground with own hands if need be; hence -> time.
mp_en_viaje: timewise... what, took maybe 8 hours of my time in 3-4 installments, i dun even recall.
mp_en_viaje: i'm not even sure i could ever get to writing down a list so complete as to have that sorta nothing figure on its own merits on it.
mp_en_viaje: but conversely : if there is someone we'll be none the sorrier for it. and if there isn't... what exactly do i have to regret re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1911779 thing ? that i spent a few grand on getting that party the only headquarters it eve rhad ? or what, some booze some kids drank off me ? ☝︎
diana_coman: no; you can however spend it on something else and I somehow never manage to run out of "something else"; but yes, I can see the idea; I don't know about who is there to do all the work and get it all growing ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: anyways, i'm not pushing for an insta-answer or anything ; but my thinking is if you both are interested an' nobody comes up with some major unseen flaw, ima draw a draft statute/documents w/e an' talk to my lawyer about it. ☟︎
diana_coman: yes, but I'm still trying to grok if it's ...worth it; lol, my problems.
diana_coman: I mean: for the lulz,sure; other than that though, wtf would I want to be there.
diana_coman: well, the way I see it, europarliament like everything else will soon be for everyone, they might even drag you in or something
mp_en_viaje: well, the same math that yielded "tmsr should get a church registered in the us", that then danielpbarron judged "these ppl are too dorky to bother for, i'd much rather work with some ok rurals" yields party in yurp.
mp_en_viaje: when i go back to cr, why not just leave the mp residence in yurp so others can enjoy a visit/stay ?
mp_en_viaje: but i mean, suppose i feel like redoing http://trilema.com/2010/domnisoare-nude-citind/ (probably in budapest). why no tmake it as Romanian Serene Republic party event, and why not say "it's in budapest because romania sucks".
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: as a sort of tmsr.ro ? or what would the difference be exactly as I don't quite grok in what way a "political party" is not already included in tmsr as it were
spyked: at the very least teh psds are specialized in drawing votes from the general populace. as for xtians, that's (in my very limited experience) where most people who are not completely retarded lie, and they'll cling to that. but that's only as far as I know (which ain't much)
spyked needs to grok this for a bit. otoh, finds the experiment worthwhile, but a. has 0 exp with politics (other than following to some degree the local affairs) and b. doesn't know how would the battle on two fronts (i.e. the social-democrats and the xtian socialists) would work strategically
mp_en_viaje: did i forget anything important ? ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: retrospectively i'm guessing it must've been ?
a111: Logged on 2013-11-13 02:09 nubbins`: given that i'm really just here to mess with the signal-to-noise ratio, i'd like to see the latter
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, check out what i found in the logs: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-11-13#377762 ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: so i'm sorta toying with the idea of starting a (romanian) political party.
asciilifeform: and iirc i threw it out, to free up shelf .
asciilifeform: somewhere i had paper spec (nominally!) for just css. it weighed moar than ada spec .
asciilifeform: i spend most of week with that doc, lol
asciilifeform: that was what i thought !
asciilifeform: ( it aint simply for 18c either, i have entire sequence of peh likbez planned , so hand-colouring is prohibitively ugh )
asciilifeform: and i gotta get motherfucking ch18c out . so not holding breath for these.
asciilifeform: i.e. it's black lung equiv for the brain.
asciilifeform: hence wai i even mentioned. it's a typical php proggy, and i strongly suspect that folx who spend enuff time writing in blind macroexpander langs, eventually become incapable of producing any other kind
mp_en_viaje: obviously maniacs abound, the "'single-char nonalphabetics' are 'symbols' and treated specially. and hardbaked a dependence on delimeters (i.e. whitespace) in the semantics. and fuckknows whatelse." parts sound SO FUCKING FAMILIAR
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm cutting the wp thing open to see if it can be made to behave, but at some pt will have to throw in towel and do sumthing else
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was apparently designed by a tard. who insisted that 'single-char nonalphabetics' are 'symbols' and treated specially. and hardbaked a dependence on delimeters (i.e. whitespace) in the semantics. and fuckknows whatelse.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I forgot you split the bots
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I could have swore seeing a picture from the same angle on a trilema post somewhere.
lobbes_field: *I will not charge (this pjhone "keyboard" is truly maddening)
lobbes_field: As for extending, it seems that the bot went down with 12 hours left, so I could easily extend it another 12
lobbes_field: Sry about auctionbot downtime. I shoulda checked before I left for the mines. Will bring back online tonight