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asciilifeform: right, hence the comparison
asciilifeform: hey that was last time asciilifeform found himself writing proggies in 'you want debug? haha, very funny' pattern substitutron
asciilifeform: for ye olde msdos
asciilifeform: 'turbo assembler'
asciilifeform: ( remember tasm ? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's reminiscent of experience of writing tasm macros lol
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm cutting the wp thing open to see if it can be made to behave, but at some pt will have to throw in towel and do sumthing else
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was apparently designed by a tard. who insisted that 'single-char nonalphabetics' are 'symbols' and treated specially. and hardbaked a dependence on delimeters (i.e. whitespace) in the semantics. and fuckknows whatelse.
asciilifeform prolly doomed to write a 'peh2html' batch proggy, and fughet about wpism
asciilifeform started by taking the included 'ada mode' and modifying. but thing seems to choke on the single-character keywords of peh
asciilifeform: it's rather like debugging gnumake.
asciilifeform: right, processor, but w/ no provision (afaik) for asking it to process individual expression in realtime
asciilifeform: so only way to learn wtf proggy does, is to allow it to run
asciilifeform: there is afaik no equiv of slime/macroexpand/etc system for php
asciilifeform: but it being ~in~ php makes the thing undebuggable.
asciilifeform: 100%
asciilifeform: difficult to give meaningful example w/out detailing the MB+ pile of shit that is the plugin. simply, config written seemingly according to docs, but there is html barfola in the output.
asciilifeform: just like perl, if you violate some expectation of orig author's, you get arbitrary barf, rather than eggog even.
asciilifeform grunting out a wp colorizer mode for peh, and it's maddening, php is ~undebuggable garbage ☟︎
asciilifeform: rright but mp_en_viaje orig. made it sound as if fux were a recent discovery, like vlsi, lol
asciilifeform: or wat, it still 'aint sex' unless under blue led lamp, in suspension swing made of purest 1060 aluminum ?
asciilifeform: possibly elsewhere ditto
asciilifeform: iirc ancient egypt was into shaving, iirc
asciilifeform: 'в СССР секса нет!'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in speshul heathen lulz, https://archive.is/wMhh2
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^ plox to comment
asciilifeform: !!up lobbes_field
asciilifeform: dunno why this took 20yrs from the famous 'embrace & extinguish' leaked memo, but there it is.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, microshit w10 nao ships with optional 'linux kernel'.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc you had a much older alabama piece, with moar photo of same item, also
asciilifeform: imho oughta extend. otherwise vulnerable to some pretty ugly strange (say, there's just 1 lowball bid, and then fleanode drops the bot until end, etc)
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: PeterL: i expect we'll find out, when lobbes resets the bot, whether it handles this case correctly
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol, cluj is on same parallel as asciilifeform's homeworld. what 'snowy north' . ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'named in honor of Rear Admiral Gordon Pai'ea Chung-Hoon (1910–1979)'.
asciilifeform: there in fact is a 'uss chung hoon'.
asciilifeform: apparently not misprint.
asciilifeform: also upstack, 'The US guided-missile destroyers ‘Preble’ and ‘Chung Hoon’ traveled within 12 nautical miles' << lol!!
asciilifeform: ( also reveals that in '12 , it was ~clean. this suggests that it grows by ~foot / yr or so.. )
asciilifeform: ( photo circa aug. '18 )
asciilifeform: extra upstack lulz, re 'cultural layer' : google helpfully informs that it has thickened ! ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( they did . but had to find ~empirically~ )
asciilifeform: i tried to find this out last time, and turned out that the co. is retarded, they could not even definitively promise that 2 x 45kg will get loaded.
asciilifeform: loox like classic variant ('economy' + 2 x 45kg bags ) still teh winner.
asciilifeform: prolly dun vary much.
asciilifeform: was like this when asciilifeform went also.
asciilifeform: and same as before, no 1 crate may weigh > 45kg.
asciilifeform: ( 175 usd, that is, for + 23kg )
asciilifeform: depending on what costs, might win
asciilifeform: interestingly, 'business class' nao includes 'phree' 64kg + 175 for another 23
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: loox same as before, 'Overweight and oversize baggage for international flights' 33-45kg 200 usd ea.
asciilifeform: !!up lobbes_field
asciilifeform: possib. the eng expression 'see how sausage is made'.
asciilifeform: there was old film, which i think mp_en_viaje's link is a frame from 'modern' remake of, where some kid unwraps a chocolate bar and 'ticket to tour the magic factory' where bathe in chocolate and etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: see also https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-golden-ticket/ .
asciilifeform: when no ivan, it gets sold to anglos for candy wrappers redeemable in zurich for miami ticket.
asciilifeform: rright but when 'ivan' he does Right Thing and orders 'the motherland's earth treasures are for building up motherland's factories an' roads' etc
asciilifeform: possibly the 1 thing moar decerebrating than shit poverty, is lottery money.
asciilifeform: then died, and poof.
asciilifeform: brief industrial spell in history of ru, guess when -- when stalin, and forbade petroexport categorically.
asciilifeform: if money 'grows on tree', wai have industry.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re brazil, seems to me that petroexport and industry are a 'pick 1'. qatar case in point.
asciilifeform: well nudism, eh
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol! i was aboutta say, 'that's where asciilifeform switches off ac, not turns on heat'
asciilifeform: what winter.
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, current-day brazil is a petromiamistan, rather like current ru (picture if ru were moved to equator, for extra tropical-stupidity radiation damage ..) ☝︎
asciilifeform: in quasirelated lulz, asciilifeform went for 1st time into brazil's embassy in ameristan, the other day (it was on exhibit) . 100% snoar except for the wall deco, whole place was done up with vintage paintings of slaves being unloaded from boats, whipped, auctioned, etc
asciilifeform: hrm didn't it elect a 'great again' lol, or wat was it, last yr
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's the prime mover there? e.g. did 'exxon' promise'em miami if they sabotage brazil ?
asciilifeform: perhaps is the seekrit behind the lulz, even. 100 y.o. d00d is running the show.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911469 << iirc d00d is still alive somewhere ☝︎
asciilifeform: prolly already televised competition in jp or sumsuch
asciilifeform: i suppose this is a possible 'harem sport' -- chix take turns drinking one another's 'morarji cola' , last 1 to give up, winner
asciilifeform: 'then we will die and feed the worms, feed the worms, ducks, they will come and eat'em up, eat'em up, others will come and eat up ducks, eat the ducks...' etc i fughet how the rest.
asciilifeform: iirc there's an english folk song about ~this.
asciilifeform: notbad, lol, pkzip
asciilifeform: hm which
asciilifeform: if they drink tho, will have to empty'em eventually eh.
asciilifeform: fairnuff
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje believes in french method, eh
asciilifeform: cuz not designed to house 200 hobos / hour
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: today yes for free. result is that they nearly always resemble the timis item (albeit with ~working throne)
asciilifeform: all of'em.
asciilifeform: dunno re when mp_en_viaje was still there, but incidentally the spiffy underground toilets in the museum square were chained shut, when i saw'em in '17
asciilifeform: in usa there are ~0 public toilets in the euro sense.
asciilifeform: 'anti-communism' types for some reason have this 'biological' antipathy for concept of working public toilet. 'if you want to shit, buy a bigmac and mcd will letya take shit'
asciilifeform: and afaik the object is pretty typical in post-sovok space. ( and iirc the celts also returned to shitting where they stood when rome left britain . cuz wainot, right. )
asciilifeform: i saw at least 2 other roughly similar.
asciilifeform: btw, for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911403-completeness strictly, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/cultural_layer_1.jpg , http://www.loper-os.org/pub/cultural_layer_2.jpg . ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta how was done for linux etc
asciilifeform in 2010-12 'surely usg will muster king's horses and king's men' days , did not expect it to look like gavin, expected moar microshit-style 'embrace&extend', e.g. 'ibm bitcoin client' or sumsuch
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: evidently enuff wreckers were left over for older, smaller things, even tho bitcoin.
asciilifeform: if had to give approx. date, tho, would say ~2011 .
asciilifeform: given any particular cl relic, it is usually not difficult to say which half of the divide it fell into
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911437 << at 1 time i dug into phf's leads in prev thread re subj and tried to determine a 'time of death', i.e. approx moment when -- apparently -- the 'old guard' (folx who maybe quasi-remembered, secondhand, lispm) retired/decamped/descended into bottle, and poetterings took over. but then realized it is not esp. useful q to ask. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: yea it is wrong link. but so far not found the needed one.
asciilifeform brb:teatime.
asciilifeform: i'm not aware of any previous cl httptron that made this particular cut, so it's defo worth attempting imho.
asciilifeform: rright, asciilifeform however must point out why the map will inevitably read like the description of the 'cultural layer' in the timis toilet.