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MJR_: but, you haven't in any way made the process better for the consumer because I will just use my credit card to buy your ebaycoins
MJR_: good for them, you made more money, still don't see a value proposition
MJR_: i seriously don't get it
ThickAsThieves: paypal won't do anything
MJR_: if they don't...why trust them in the first place
MJR_: but the fact remains, that if you don't control the system, it probably won't be very profitable for a company, and if you do control it, bitcoin will remain unique
MJR_: so, either they create a distributed system they don't control...which means its exactly like bitcoin but 4 years late to the party
MJR_: isn't that the same library all those kind of guys are using now?
ThickAsThieves: it's hard being so awesome sometimes, ain't it?
mircea_popescu: i recall this is one of the recent noobs but can't place him
Scrat: see, didn't even have to invent an altcoin
mircea_popescu: MoneyHoney you're seeing it aren't you.
mircea_popescu: "This community being what it is (40% ex-SA trolls, 30% clueless idiots, 10% intelligent assholes, 10% blatant scammers, 5% psychopaths, 2% bored college kids, 2% eccentric entrepreneurs, 1% Phinneaus Gage, and 1% people who can't count)"
KRS-1: T'sup MJR!
mod6: didn't take long for the meme's to pop up on those pictures.
jcpham: i don't imagine it
mod6: its like they think that bitcoin hasn't "made it" unless maria is talking about it everyday or some bullshit
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i don't think anyone bothers anymore.
mircea_popescu: well i don't count weak keys as an actual attack
Scrat: jurov: you have a point there, but this doesn't only apply to ssh
jurov: i don't understand why you need to have it sitting in dc
jurov: issuing btc transactions doesn't required some huge bandwidth/latency
jurov: why can't anybody have secured backend?
orkaa: Scrat, isn't that the point of ssh? :)
mircea_popescu: mtgox doesn't seem like they have enough of a clue to get proper physical security of their servers in place
mircea_popescu: there's one thing i don't understand.
mircea_popescu: Scrat it wasn't the hardware.
davout: mircea_popescu: pic of you wearing a party hat or it didn't happen
mircea_popescu: i only share bills and fines. i don't share the finer things of life :D
deadweasel: truffles, no, i don't use btc as a means to a wet cock
lippoper1: no i don't
thestringpuller: no because I don't drive a car!
FabianB: who doesn't like vi?
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 i have it doesn't.
davout: i don't speak slovak and my box doesn't speak flash :D
jurov: >:D can't even agree whom i'm trolling
thestringpuller: and didn't buy back puts as the price fell to hedge my short P80's
Bugpowder: can't make money on them
thestringpuller: if it ain't broke don't fix it
mircea_popescu: "we've been hacked" = "we're retarded and don't understand anything about computers, the internet or security"
Namworld: [20:23] <mircea_popescu> i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
mircea_popescu: but since userbase minerbase coderbase etc aren't the criteria by which we judge altcoins...
mircea_popescu: i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
mircea_popescu: this logic. i don't follow it natively.
Bugpowder: Academic papers on bitcoin don't make sense to me. If you had actually figured out something of value, why wouldn't you just try to profit from it
Bugpowder: I haven't read the paper.
benkay: the nice thing about ron paul is that he's willing to say "i don't know"
jurov: and its creators are trying to make sure it doesn't stray from their plans by holding huge stash
TomServo: Isn't ripple sort of a distributed exchange?
Bugpowda: I can't tell if he said 500,000 or 5M as the minimum amount per day flowing in
zebedee_: 1 day doesn't seem to cut it.
mircea_popescu: don't get me wroing, the question ios a very good one
mircea_popescu: however we couldn't find a way that was both intuitive for non-math people to specify and practicable in a web interface.
Bugpowder: can't make the damn this play
pgp2: the problem, ultimately, will be PR. As more people bet, others will come to the same conclusions - people will talk shit about bitbet and you didn't even get to benefit from any of that negative EV...
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't say the odds are bad.
mircea_popescu: you know ? volume matters too. it ain't 85.
Luke-Jr: Doffx: using GBT doesn't require any extra effort from the miners like stratum does :p
pizzaman1337: I can't
Luke-Jr: Doffx: you can't even put 20 Gh/s of GPUs without it going boom
Luke-Jr: but rollntime isn't done at bitcoind, it's done at the poolserver
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: they don't have to upgrade to use rollntime
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: BTCGuild *did* lose a bit when they upgraded to 0.8 because the admin wasn't paying attention to what he was doing
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr deepbit doesn't want to upgrade because generally speaking updates are also shit.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: he still doesn't support rollntime
mircea_popescu: gbt didn't manage to get much traction iirc.
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: don't be stupid
mircea_popescu: i don't like pools because basically they fuck up the entire point of mining
TheMonarchTx: so once the bubble popped it's not surprising that the new accounts don't result in increased volume
orkaa: internet won't be able to cure our cancer when we're 70
MJR_: we aren't all american citizens here...(i am, not that it matters)
orkaa: shouldn't matter where they came from
jcpham: but his data could game you if you don't have your own fact-checkers
jcpham: well if we're talking about compensation, I wouldn't suggest paying for bad data...
jcpham: he work isn't lobbied for to your liking
jcpham: don't see the problem
mircea_popescu: and how the 500th iteration of a failed idea is going to yield results simply because he doesn't know of the other 499
mod6: So far I haven't had any issues or heard the anything like the guy on btctalk.
zebedee_: OK. What do you do personally if you don't mind my asking?Which client do you use, or do you do your own thing with private keys etc?
zebedee_: Sure. Just was curious about the tech of the offline wallet, as I've been dealing with such issues in a personal capacity myself. If you don't want to say anything fair enough, though I don't really see what risk that might expose you to.
mircea_popescu: furthermore, trying to game it this way exposes you to the following risk : if your bet doesn't make it into a block before bet is closed
mircea_popescu: i think that pretty much says it, wouldn't you say ?
zebedee_: Although it may be obvious, I don't believe that's explicit anywhere.
zebedee_: mircea_popescu: For bitbet.us, the weight is for a 1 BTC bet I assume (i.e. proportional to size)? I might have missed something but this doesn't seem to be explained in the FAQ.
Sin|CRUNK: isn't it out for ps3
jurov: but i realized i don't have anywhere to rush anyway
MJR_: lol they haven't goxxed ltc yet...
asciilifeform: my point wasn't that this kind of scenario will become routine, but that it is unwise to tell people without a need-to-know exactly where your coldwallet physically lives.
mircea_popescu: banks aren't video rental stores.
kakobrekla: >Reported to police (they are really no help, so much for paying their salary, seems they've gotten fbi reports about bitcoins and don't really like them, started asking if I pay taxes on them...),
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I didn't say it had already happened.
mircea_popescu: containers aren't opened are they.
asciilifeform: I will describe a process for extracting paper wallets from a bank box, just so it doesn't surprise anyone when it actually happens:
Namworld: That hype didn't do much good.
thestringpuller: Something smells rotten in Denmark.The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.
thestringpuller: The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.
asciilifeform: I don't really keep up with btcdrama in real time
mircea_popescu: maybe i don't understand mining but... mempool right ? it's in ram.
mircea_popescu: dub you can't get credit. would you like a debit ?
thestringpuller: 6) don't piss off mircea_popescu