mircea_popescu: punkman the average scam pays between 1/3 and 1/2 of all net revenuye for advertising
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3025 BTC [-]
mod6: haha jeeze. it makes my eyes bleed some of the stuff i read on there on a daily basis.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4550 @ 0.00288767 = 13.1389 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.30002, Best ask: 126.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 126.30001, 24 hour volume: 65465.64089159, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 127.00000, 24 hour vwap: 122.30066
MJR_: do you know the largest diff jump that has happened so far this year?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2478 @ 0.00068402 = 1.695 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7672 @ 0.00069088 = 5.3004 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.17681 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "bc,estimate" is not a valid command.
gribble: Current Blocks: 232642 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9617358.12743 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.1656
mod6: so everyone mines btcguild now or what?
kakobrekla: i cant belive im saying this but theres space for new pools
Doffx: That would be tough to do kakobrekla, this community trusts no one and rightfully so not to mention all the pools seem to go bankrupt
Doffx: They would also need to offer something new and exciting to get people to move
kakobrekla: nah, all you need is a nice site and a nice name like kakobrekla
Doffx: Although I do agree it seems like we need some more new choices
Doffx: hehe , are you making a pool?
Doffx: It looks like its finally dying off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00067618 = 1.42 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: they are buying hashers in nice cases and shit
kakobrekla: they want preety charts and shit like dat
Doffx: I dont care what it looks like, I just want TH speed
mircea_popescu: i don't like pools because basically they fuck up the entire point of mining
kakobrekla: it aint all bad, if no pools would be online
kakobrekla: cause a ton of people wouldnt mine under solo conditions
Doffx: I dunno p2pool seemed good but no one uses it, decentralized mining.
kakobrekla: you dont need 100k , but 5 is not enough
Doffx: I used it but it felt like I was losing BTC doing so, there were so many other options that made me slight more
Doffx: err slightly more, my reason was well.. I am greedy to a point?
kakobrekla: basically the new protocol from Luke-Jr fucked it all up
Doffx: p2pool seemed to be disliked by a lot of the developer types for some reason
Doffx: Kano didn’t like it either.
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: don't be stupid
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: I intentionally designed the new protocol so that it SOLVED the pooled mining centralization problem
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: by taking the blind control away from pools
Luke-Jr: putting it back with the miners
Doffx: I haven’t seen anything about this new protocol, is there a post about it someplace?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069088 = 4.4562 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: im sure the reason btcguild is trying to get rid of miners is because its all safe and good
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: BTCGuild/slush made their own protocol which un-solved the problem
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: they apparently WANT centralization
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: not really, just by the big centralized pools
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: most of the smaller pools support GBT
Luke-Jr: hopefully more ASIC miners will get off centralized pools
Luke-Jr: no clue why they're all going onto BTCGuild
Luke-Jr: are you confusing BTCG vs ozcoin?
dub: its because menstruation is murder
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: they lost nothing from the split, Gavin gave them what they would have mined
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: tell Tycho/Deepbit
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.01001 = 0.0901 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: he still doesn't support rollntime
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr deepbit doesn't want to upgrade because generally speaking updates are also shit.
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: BTCGuild *did* lose a bit when they upgraded to 0.8 because the admin wasn't paying attention to what he was doing
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: they don't have to upgrade to use rollntime
Luke-Jr: but rollntime isn't done at bitcoind, it's done at the poolserver
Doffx: What happens if someone decided to plop 200+ GH worth of Asic on Deepbit
Luke-Jr: Doffx: you can't even put 20 Gh/s of GPUs without it going boom
Doffx: No Gh, mainly because I know they only really work with Stratum pools
Doffx: Because of how fast they getwork I think
Doffx: I see that after reading the wiki
Doffx: GBT has been around a long time, even when I started 2 years ago
Doffx: I thought I remember seeing it way back I am probably wrong mainly because this is the first time I understood what it even meant.
Doffx: Oh so little over a year
mircea_popescu: so basically other than eclipse who exactly even uses gbt ?
Doffx: Bitminter, elegius
kakobrekla: so the pool can still feed you template from a forked chain
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 9612397.38912 based on data since last change | 10025677.4438 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: Luke-Jr, which asic companies are hashing on the side?
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: Avalon and ASICMiner at least
kakobrekla: Luke-Jr: so the pool can still feed you template from a forked chain?
Luke-Jr: BFL is apparently doing a "demo" jalapeno
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: could; miners are expected to be smart and detect such things
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: bitcoind and p2pool can feed you a forked template too
Luke-Jr: pools no longer can do nasty stuff behind miners' backs
Luke-Jr: that was the problem all along
Doffx: I didnt even know about Bitpenny
Luke-Jr: apparently they're now centralizing their pool and going stratum-only :/
Doffx: I dont think most miner even know what GBT is.
bowjob: guys anyone recognized the s/s
Doffx: Does p2pool even work with Asics?
bowjob: which site is the account from
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00385 = 0.0077 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: Doffx: using GBT doesn't require any extra effort from the miners like stratum does :p
Doffx: That looks like some sort of custom mining app, I have never seen that before and I think I have tried just about every pool
bowjob: this kid was claiming he mined it all on 1 day
Doffx: Lol, you know what, I have never used 50btc
Doffx: Well, Luke-Jr seems like it makes sense to use, however you would somehow need to convince the miners to use it.
Doffx: Forcing the pools would also be difficult, not sure why they decided to use Stratum however
Luke-Jr: Doffx: anyone mining with BFGMiner will automatically use GBT if the pool supports it (unless they specifically set stratum)
Doffx: That's good to know.
Doffx: I would use it if he could figure out why I lose 800 MH over time with my Cainsmore :P
Luke-Jr: Doffx: because the freq drops?
Doffx: Why though, it doesent drop in MPBM, it stays the same indefinitely as far as I can tell.
Luke-Jr: Doffx: drops are triggered by hw errors usually
Luke-Jr: Doffx: maybe the balance is off
Doffx: I seem to get more in Bfgminer then
Doffx: the clocks stablize in MPBM and then never change once they reach the spot they like
Doffx: I wish I was able to help you more Luke-Jr but I honestly dont understand it.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.74001, Best ask: 126.43000, Bid-ask spread: 0.68999, Last trade: 126.43000, 24 hour volume: 63681.08188621, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 127.30000, 24 hour vwap: 122.64010
Doffx: or -lah so we can see the symlinks?
dub: h makes size human readable
kakobrekla: what is this indian malarkey, its missing skateboards
mircea_popescu: kids often do this, "what if i were the emperor of Rome" or "what if i was the only person in town" etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00067915 = 18.6766 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009911 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009911 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.00991 = 0.1586 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009901 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0099 = 0.198 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00986 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009855 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0098 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.0098 = 0.0588 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 633 @ 0.00976 = 6.1781 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: Starting a trade site? > I have two domains available to me, so it only makes sense to use one for trading.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81999999 BTC [+]
taub: who are you responding to?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1301 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.127175 BTC [-]
taub: it's a stupid suggestion of course
taub: lets make market slow and inefficient
taub: that makes it better
mircea_popescu: what offends me is this "i am a teenage cock with no experience whatsoever
mircea_popescu: therefore let me tell you how things are and how'd they be better"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even heard of exchange settling a 80 bid and 90 ask at 85 ?!
mircea_popescu: not even him. but that's okay cause he goes back and puts an "usually" in paranthesis there. problem fixed.
taub: well that actually happens
taub: opening acutions right before the market opens
taub: oh well okay the prices would have to intersect
mircea_popescu: even if it's a situation of loaded book, they're settled by fixing
mircea_popescu: "The Opening Auction will occur at the Indicative Match Price — the price at which the maximum volume of orders is executable at the time of the auction"
mircea_popescu: this is what i'm saying, things are what they are not what some dood gleaned from 15 minutes of skimming wikipedia.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.79001, Best ask: 128.59143, Bid-ask spread: -0.19858, Last trade: 128.99990, 24 hour volume: 60612.58053853, 24 hour low: 119.21210, 24 hour high: 128.89000, 24 hour vwap: 123.57448
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [-]
pgp2: hey mp, why do you prefer to decay the weight (or allow originator to set the decay) for bitbet? I've been doing some analysis and it really creates a heavy skews favoring early betting.
pgp2: I get that, but decaying by 5 orders of magnitude seems extreme
pgp2: right, but still... there are open bets where there's like -40% EV - people stop betting...
pgp2: EV on this one is -44%
pgp2: assume I bet on both sides
pgp2: that how you compute EV
pgp2: if I bet 1 on yes AND on no I will win either 1.05 or 1.26
pgp2: so I bet 2 BTC to return either 1.05 or 1.26
mircea_popescu: i get 1.04 and 1.24 must be you made your calc at earlier weight ?
mircea_popescu: alrgiht so we have confirmation on the numbers at least.
pgp2: I bet 2 to win EITHER 1.04 OR 1.24
pgp2: so I worked out a close appoximation for EV
pgp2: if you look at avg weight (total weight / total bets)
pgp2: then EV = (CurrentWeight - AvgWeight)/(2 * AvgWeight) - .01
pgp2: for small bets relative to the whole
pgp2: pretty sure it's right
mircea_popescu: 0.2475 * curr_weight * (no_pool/yes_weight + yes_pool/no_weight) + .495
mircea_popescu: the good news being that you're guaranteed half your money back no matter what
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's incentive for you to do this type of bet (ie, a marketmaking bet) early in the bet's life.
mircea_popescu: basically you can make a little % by financing the odds. so you can pretty much run a line bookie thing on top of bitbet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00068694 = 6.1138 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
pgp2: just wanted to confirm the analysis
pgp2: for popular bets the it can be an significant incentive
pgp2: I was surprised, though, at just how BAD the odds can get. Perhaps you should consider a minimum decay value
mircea_popescu: why would you be betting both sides 95% of the time in ?
mircea_popescu: the fact that either side is still +EV seems pretty good to me. means if you have a conviction you can still take a side.
pgp2: at 10,000 weight with pool average of 50,000... that's terrible EV... The pool should be closed or EV disclosed...
pgp2: just saying that maybe a decay minimum of 20,000 would be appropriate...
pgp2: the problem, ultimately, will be PR. As more people bet, others will come to the same conclusions - people will talk shit about bitbet and you didn't even get to benefit from any of that negative EV...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00069088 = 2.5908 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ie, bet says what your wright is, and what the minimum is
mircea_popescu: on the other, it's fully setable, min can be 100k or anything down to 1
pgp2: yes, but could be a bit more transparent - i found it confusing at first.
pgp2: I know that it's settable, just suggesting a firm minimum so that EV can never get to far out of whack.
pgp2: like maybe display average pool weight - stuff so they can compute something round in their head and not have to resort to a calculator
pgp2: w/e just a suggestion
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: smth in that sense will be added in teh new interface
kakobrekla: not sure if avg pool weight will help avg user though
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.191 = 1.337 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.1982 = 1.5856 BTC [+]
pgp2: then compute the current payout percentages on both side, or somthing - I really think that it would help
pgp2: in getting more people to bet - I think that the complexity is a barrier to new users...
gribble: I have 18 registered users with 23 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
gribble: Current Blocks: 232668 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1187 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9648500.29011 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.51261
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44999998 = 2.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: im suprised by the lack of trolls and spam
kakobrekla: that static captcha test must have worked
kakobrekla: i mean there is no "PENIS" and "VAGINA" to be seen
Bugpowder: this is youtube comment level stupid
mircea_popescu: aeide would be some sort of praise, tell the story of,
mircea_popescu: which is, of course, "sing o goddess the anger of achilles"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 1.4213 = 9.9491 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.46999998 = 9.4 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.50000, Best ask: 127.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 127.50000, 24 hour volume: 63794.59686465, 24 hour low: 120.00000, 24 hour high: 129.20000, 24 hour vwap: 125.07695
gribble: There are currently 32795971 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22394946.7165 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0123 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00070888 = 3.5175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11148 @ 0.00071245 = 7.9424 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.000709 = 8.6144 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6890 @ 0.00072 = 4.9608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00072 = 11.736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.00072 = 1.3032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8190 @ 0.00073 = 5.9787 BTC [+]
zebedee_: mircea_popescu: I assume weight decay is linear on BitBet. Do you have any reason that's the most optimal curve to encourage early bets? Personally, I doubt it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14001 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: zebedee_ i doubt it too. the original plan was to allow curve definition at bet introduction
mircea_popescu: however we couldn't find a way that was both intuitive for non-math people to specify and practicable in a web interface.
zebedee_: Something like e^-x is probably more appropriate.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14 = 2.28 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: can you prove there exists some manner to select the better curve ?
zebedee_: It just weights earlier bets more than linearly. Just a guess.
mircea_popescu: people kinda complain about too much weight for early bets tho
zebedee_: Those that weight until the last moment to bet HUGE on a near-certain outcome? We can ignore them.
mircea_popescu: if you review closed bets, the system as it is works superbly to discourage the tail betting.
zebedee_: Agreed. Room for innovation! BoB is linear too I think.
zebedee_: I like my bets to have at least 1 week of no-betting time before determination, to force people to at least be taking some risk when betting. Just my preference.
mircea_popescu: well depends on the bet. bitbet has a 7 to 3 day interval settable iirc
mircea_popescu: if the bet is "stock will be over x on y day" then y-3 works juyst fine i guess
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18889 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1889 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.19 = 5.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.19 = 5.95 BTC [+]
pgp2: right, if pool is closed 3-7 days before determing factor, there is less of a need to decay to 1
Scrat: [05:42] <mircea_popescu> aeide would be some sort of praise, tell the story of,
Scrat: always translates to sing
Scrat: if you shuffle a letter around it translates to vagina
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00072802 = 2.0385 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00071866 = 6.4679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00071119 = 2.8448 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.15 = 10.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.3 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00072095 = 6.2723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073 = 4.234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00265301 = 2.3877 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 119.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0026 seconds
gribble: There are currently 25036.97 bitcoins demanded at or over 119.0 USD, worth 3063571.35549 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0331 seconds
ChaangNoi: that is a large number 25 just to 119 that is bullish
gribble: There are currently 29831987 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22847009.5336 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.1612 seconds
gribble: There are currently 57573.842 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6586580.08243 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.7672 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000694 = 0.347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071953 = 0.3598 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 201161.83 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 16241019.1092 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds
gribble: There are currently 29831814 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22839304.496 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.3404 seconds
gribble: There are currently 91014.313 bitcoins offered at or under 250.0 USD, worth 16165486.0703 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.1350 seconds
gribble: There are currently 65988.188 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 10221023.1214 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.7091 seconds
gribble: There are currently 57540.927 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 6581906.95486 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.5067 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00355 BTC [-]
MJR_: lol, zhou tong is back
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.016 = 1.6 BTC [+]
Bugpowda: I can't tell if he said 500,000 or 5M as the minimum amount per day flowing in
pizzaman1337: yeah, I think that was "five and..... 20 million dollars"
MJR_: i thought he said 20 million coming in 300k to 1 million going out
MJR_: then he said, a lot more coming in than going out
Scrat: pizzaman1337: france
leotreasure: The Secret World Of Gold Full & Complete Program
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.57901, Best ask: 128.58000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 128.58000, 24 hour volume: 60109.66578235, 24 hour low: 120.05001, 24 hour high: 129.20000, 24 hour vwap: 125.76562
Bugpowda: yeah that grasshopper test is amazing
Bugpowda: full demo is scheduled by the end of this year
Bugpowda: stick to the toilet paper investments
MJR_: erik schmidt just talked about bitcoins on cnbc
Scrat: yes, because noone else launches satellites
Scrat: as for tesla, we are exactly at the point where big battery packs are viable for cars
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
Scrat: and their energy density doubles every 4-5 years
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4101 BTC [-]
Scrat: model X will be out soon, and then an even cheaper model is in the works
pnkvbz: Upgrading gigamining to teramining: is it worth it?
jurov: $5-20MM flowing into gox per day, 300,000-1MM flowing out... so the fiat evaporates there?
jurov: or are gox acct balances inreasing by few mm every day?
Scrat: not a single computer manufacturer has a successful tablet that consumers want in their hands
Scrat: see what i did there?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00072114 = 4.4711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00073 = 1.971 BTC [+]
Scrat: they are paying it off just fine
Scrat: how the fuck is is a waste, they are paying off the loan
Scrat: productive businesses (GM)
ThickAsThieves: does the Note 2 count as a tablet? I kinda want one now that my wife has one
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: im fully aware that I'm feeding the troll
MJR_: has he called you poor yet?
MJR_: jurov: i think its turned into bitcoins, and people are leaving their cash there
MJR_: not withdrawing it yet
Scrat: tiberiusiv is a made up character
Scrat: an elaborate markov chain bot being fed data from /b/
Bugpowda: tiberiusiv: fam already has spaceX options
jurov: MJR_: or mtgox prevents them withdrawing it
Uglux: aaand the wall is gone ^^
jurov: ;;calc 5000000/120
jurov: 5m fiat surplus flowing into gox means over 40k bitcoins sold every day
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.00001, Best ask: 132.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.32999, Last trade: 132.33000, 24 hour volume: 68849.89326207, 24 hour low: 120.10010, 24 hour high: 132.20000, 24 hour vwap: 126.37223
jurov: unless most investors are waiting
jurov: and that's not believeable either
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1290 @ 0.00073 = 0.9417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00073157 = 2.7068 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 29923419 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 23113384.2464 USD in total. | Data vintage: 52.5510 seconds
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blkchnisFXCKED: anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
blokchn: anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
blokchn: anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
blokchn: anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
blokchn: anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
blokchn: anyone else having problems with blockchain.info holding transactions?
Scrat: blokchn: fuck your face
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2110 @ 0.00073762 = 1.5564 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.219795 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00244445552249 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.2999 = 7.4975 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 41 @ 0.2991 = 12.2631 BTC [-]
assbot: Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00265301 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 57757.774 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 9207135.54396 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds
pnkvbz: Upgrading gigamining to teramining: is it worth it?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.168 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16301 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.163 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.16 = 2.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.295 = 7.375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9503 @ 0.00071953 = 6.8377 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6240 @ 0.00072327 = 4.5132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3910 @ 0.00073 = 2.8543 BTC [+]
TomServo: Isn't ripple sort of a distributed exchange?
jurov: ripple is supposed to be used to buy/sell personal credit
jurov: and its creators are trying to make sure it doesn't stray from their plans by holding huge stash
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.6769 seconds
gribble: There are currently 200891.07 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 16807697.8497 USD in total. | Data vintage: 85.5081 seconds
gribble: There are currently 65975.845 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 7804157.02725 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0080 seconds
gribble: There are currently 55664.129 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8974006.92163 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.4764 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.299 = 5.382 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.45000, Best ask: 136.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 136.80000, 24 hour volume: 84182.26967231, 24 hour low: 120.33333, 24 hour high: 137.68860, 24 hour vwap: 128.36205
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00069882 = 4.2977 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.29899999 = 1.495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00293321 = 1.4666 BTC [+]
MJR_: you here bugpowder?
gribble: There are currently 30778230 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 23022552.3573 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.3272 seconds
Populus: I know I've made bets on bitbet. I'd like to know which ones though. I've forgotten!
Populus: Is there a way to search for a wallet ID to know what bets the wallet is involved with?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.18809, Best ask: 135.45886, Bid-ask spread: 0.27077, Last trade: 135.00000, 24 hour volume: 88119.49556709, 24 hour low: 121.70000, 24 hour high: 137.68860, 24 hour vwap: 128.92758
Populus: cool, probably should have tried before asking. thanks
kakobrekla: you should be able to see preset "keyword, address" in the search field
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15021 BTC [-]
punkman1: "Data via Mt.Gox Streaming API / Reverse forecast averages pulled out of my ass"
jurov: yea, nobody was killed in romania
jurov: plus i had some unplanned excursion after boarding wrong train
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 65 @ 0.016499 = 1.0724 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0165 = 1.65 BTC [+]
jurov: the budapest-bucharest trains in both directions met in timisoara with departures 5 minutes apart
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [+]
jurov: and the table was easy to misread (arrivals/departures labeled only in romanian)
jurov: so me and an older hungarian lady got into wrong one
jurov: and went off next stop, she knew romanian so not a big problem
jurov: just had to wait 2 hrs and get back...
jurov: then i found by chance a nice hostel in timisoara, a family house complete with dogs and cat
jurov: ideal to calm my nerves :)
kakobrekla: well at least it worked out ok in the end
jurov: only that the cat preferred to lay on my notebook's psu instead of near me. such a bitch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11573 @ 0.00069882 = 8.0874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4777 @ 0.00068337 = 3.2645 BTC [-]
jurov: oh and the mobile internet (alhough slow) never dropped even in middle of nowhere. amazing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00069956 = 1.1893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13842 @ 0.00070646 = 9.7788 BTC [+]
Aurigae1: hey guys, what are the most interesting ventures in bitcoin world, i have browsed a bit on bitcoin stocks but most seem blatantly overvalued on marketcap.
Aurigae1: satoshi has a marcet cap of 7'K as i calculated, gotta check the books tough
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6255 @ 0.00071222 = 4.4549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2595 @ 0.00071733 = 1.8615 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00071733 = 0.5739 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 20 @ 1.33 = 26.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 720 @ 0.000695 = 0.5004 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.821 BTC [+]
assbot: It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067618 / 0.0006985 / 0.00073762 (402728 shares, 281.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00067618 / 0.00070449 / 0.00073891 (2496216 shares, 1,758.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068429 / 0.00073891 (10074634 shares, 6,894.07 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.00355 = 0.0852 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.00379 = 0.0985 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.437 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17343 @ 0.00070979 = 12.3099 BTC [-]
MJR_: ap twitter feed was hacked
MJR_: they tweeted that there were two explosions in the white house and obama was injured
MJR_: dow fell like 150 points before snapping back
benkay: good old tightly coupled systems
benkay: good old traders, looking for the info-edge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 823 @ 0.00068337 = 0.5624 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14226 @ 0.00068284 = 9.7141 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00067862 = 1.1984 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 232776 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1079 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9669629.13619 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.74805
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.0975 = 0.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000631 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3407 @ 0.00067862 = 2.3121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1593 @ 0.00067861 = 1.081 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1603 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.157 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150221 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15022 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1502 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.15001 = 3.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.14101 = 4.564 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00068496 = 2.5344 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.43701 = 2.1851 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.437 = 0.874 BTC [-]
gribble: \*AWAY UNTIL April 28\* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 2 days, 0 hours, 32 minutes, and 52 seconds ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 36 @ 0.0055 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15022 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150221 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.291 = 1.455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00070085 = 0.5397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 450 @ 0.0014 = 0.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0014 = 0.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1982 = 0.5946 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00070052 = 8.1961 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.142 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1415 = 2.283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10112 @ 0.00068953 = 6.9725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3458 @ 0.00067862 = 2.3467 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00067862 = 2.8841 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000698 = 0.0209 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
aneesh: Anybody that trades BTC settled USD futures?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.41101 = 1.233 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.411 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.40701 = 2.0351 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.407 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.87 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.196999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.197 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19898 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4389 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.80000, Best ask: 139.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 139.80000, 24 hour volume: 95450.29604973, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 139.81000, 24 hour vwap: 131.93442
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00068389 = 4.7872 BTC [+]