assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1982 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
deadweasel: what about this fucking price? makes no sense.
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 160.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0057 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00379 BTC [+]
deadweasel: just wondering who is buying it all. is it you?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.47161, Best ask: 141.18999, Bid-ask spread: 0.71838, Last trade: 141.19000, 24 hour volume: 100722.28543688, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 142.48750, 24 hour vwap: 132.67953
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.0165 = 0.0495 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.31501, Best ask: 139.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68498, Last trade: 139.31501, 24 hour volume: 103242.27631667, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 142.48750, 24 hour vwap: 133.14191
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.01901, Best ask: 143.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90099, Last trade: 143.92000, 24 hour volume: 105875.88906638, 24 hour low: 124.97000, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 133.42108
gribble: 1 BTC = 143.92000 U.S. dollars = 110.852653 Euros
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3033 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.49701111 = 3.9761 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4973 = 1.4919 BTC [+]
pizzaman1337: lol, Ron Paul on Bitcoin "I admit, I do not fully understand what is going on with it."
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1982 = 0.5946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00068176 = 7.6016 BTC [-]
dub: he's tired like bill cosby
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 601 @ 0.00067862 = 0.4079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6321 @ 0.00067861 = 4.2895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5628 @ 0.00067783 = 3.8148 BTC [-]
MJR_: what'd ron paul do?
kakobrekla: 00:31.26 ( pizzaman1337 ) lol, Ron Paul on Bitcoin "I admit, I do not fully understand what is going on with it."
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4973 BTC [+]
benkay: the nice thing about ron paul is that he's willing to say "i don't know"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1294 @ 0.00067783 = 0.8771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3306 @ 0.00067594 = 2.2347 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.87 = 3.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4973 = 0.9946 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1998 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2 = 9.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 452.55335592 * [ticker --last]
mircea_popescu: is that we've managed to switch from a drama powered to a drama-and-comedy-gold powered model.
Bugpowder: I am sure Mark's build and voice are playing into this rally
mircea_popescu: this "Synthetic Commodity Money" "paper" is singurarly ignorant/uninformed/unscientific/laughable and ridiculous
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if humanities departments have ever read an actual scientific paper.
mircea_popescu: well... ok, formally : it contains no tables and a total of 3 figures in 28 pages. the third is a 100px wide rendition of the "bitcoin supply schedule" in 6 data points.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd is a 100px wide rendition of the "swiss dinar"/usd rate
Bugpowder: Academic papers on bitcoin don't make sense to me. If you had actually figured out something of value, why wouldn't you just try to profit from it
Bugpowder: Unless you already have positioned yourself I guess
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: is there a cabal that are manipulating bitcoin prices?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4973 = 0.9946 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so there's not one but actually two different doods doing a bitcoin pixel page + bitcoin gem thing
mircea_popescu: and they're both equally incapable of reading comprehension.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it actually is the same dood with a split personality.
mircea_popescu: "Under the thinnest of pretenses, Boston was placed under martial law, with heavily armed troops patrolling the streets, pointing machine guns at civilians who dared so much as to look out their windows."
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: its used to donate to open source projects
Scrat: dude does a verbatim copy of litecoin and it gets 50 pages of replies in a week?
mircea_popescu: " Litecoin being as mature as it is makes it hard to join in the fun so let’s start with a new coin that follows Litecoin’s tradition."
Scrat: well, lets take advantage of it?
Diablo-D3: then I'll be able to afford to start dmc 2.0
mircea_popescu: i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
mircea_popescu: but since userbase minerbase coderbase etc aren't the criteria by which we judge altcoins...
Namworld: [20:23] <mircea_popescu> i have a completely abstract altchain. nobody mines on it, nobody owns any coins, nobody bothers to read the codebase (which doesn't actually exist in written form anywhere)
mircea_popescu: stop racistly holding the president's baseless/meaningless generalisations against him!
mircea_popescu: "we've been hacked" = "we're retarded and don't understand anything about computers, the internet or security"
mircea_popescu: nobody cares what "the press" says since about 2006 or so
Bugpowder: plenty of trade algos scan twitter to drive their engine these days
jborkl_: slush got hacked .took down the pool and servers
Bugpowder: The idea has been aroudn for years
Bugpowder: would not be suprising if it was algo driven
jborkl_: smoeone at GS had a new Ferrari to buy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4975 = 4.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4975 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4974955 = 12.4374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00068028 = 3.7415 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4974955 = 12.4374 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4975 = 1.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4975 = 1.4925 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3128 @ 0.00067594 = 2.1143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13973 @ 0.00067352 = 9.4111 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00066835 = 10.9609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00066267 = 1.4579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00065959 = 6.9257 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1982 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
gribble: Current Blocks: 232839 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 1016 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 22 hours, 35 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9780242.39957 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.98061
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4502 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: he is also accepting donations for his future bitcoin projects.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22888 BTC [+]
dub: and unfortunatly lost touch with his imaginary friend
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 452.55335592 * [ticker --last]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22889 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3399 @ 0.00065893 = 2.2397 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9801 @ 0.00065934 = 6.4622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ya im fixing one thing and broke another
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00065934 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7359 @ 0.00065934 = 4.8521 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.80020001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 69 @ 0.00351 = 0.2422 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: now I'm just holding and sitting tight
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003501 = 0.3501 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: if we hit 149.9, we go thru though
thestringpuller: Bulls use media blitz to increase price, bears used ddos to sell down
Bugpowder: I got filled at 111 on the last ddos, was sweet
thestringpuller: i've been throwing orders into campbx via python terminals
Bugpowder: though TBH the best strat really would have been to buy and hold
Bugpowder: I would have made more if I had just sat on my buys at 52 and 51.
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
thestringpuller: then sell and take a position to keep the price stable win-win :P
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.6290 seconds
thestringpuller: and didn't buy back puts as the price fell to hedge my short P80's
gribble: There are currently 184011.53 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 16399606.4212 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.7002 seconds
gribble: There are currently 51900.191 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 8651680.4235 USD in total. | Data vintage: 70.2018 seconds
gribble: There are currently 33335168 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 22625710.7287 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.1412 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00065511 = 16.1485 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.155 = 5.775 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.150013 = 3.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.150013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.145 = 5.725 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14301 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.142 = 2.284 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14125 = 2.2825 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14121 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.14105 = 2.2821 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.14101 = 5.7051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.08051 = 5.4026 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0805 = 2.161 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0805 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.08 = 16.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.07 = 10.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.05 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.046 = 5.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.045 = 2.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.03 = 4.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0103 = 2.0206 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.0002 = 5.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.0001 = 11.0011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3801 = 1.1403 BTC [-]
inhies: yea now is a good time to buy
inhies: anyone wanna loan me like .4 btc? :3
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.185 BTC [+]
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.18 = 35.4 BTC [-]
inhies: i just have to find that key
inhies: it was like two years ago
inhies: pretty sure i still have it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 53 @ 1.18 = 62.54 BTC [-]
inhies: its ok i dont really want to deal with a loan anyways
inhies: i just want another asic mining share before divs pay out :3
inhies: thats why every bit help
inhies: i still get abotu .1 btc when they pay out
inhies: like last week i made .11 btc in divs with 16 shares
assbot: Stupid fucking white man.
assbot: Things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun.
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.80020000 / 1.8364625 / 1.87000000 (8 shares, 14.69170001 BTC), 7D: 1.73000000 / 1.84405223 / 1.94000000 (114 shares, 210.22195372 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.6621414 / 2.08000000 (796 shares, 1323.06455483 BTC)
inhies: can i only buy in to that on the havelock site?
inhies: or is there a passtrhough or something?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.15 = 8.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.13 = 10.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.120011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.12 = 4.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.09 = 6.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.09001 = 5.4501 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well its trolling someone but im not sure its me?
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.173 = 1.211 BTC [-]
jurov: >:D can't even agree whom i'm trolling
jurov: yes, it's unlikely. but at least i found that fag problem
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you recall, the bet calculation lists the total/his weight backwards
kakobrekla: i told you it was backwards before didnt i?
kakobrekla: some other consensus was reached afterwards iirc
jurov: when they figure out how to plug it into asics, brain interface wwill follow soon
jurov: i'll have today another talk about bitcon scams
jurov: with lots of scary numbers
davout: people love scary numbers
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.00000, Best ask: 162.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 168626.00159905, 24 hour low: 132.63000, 24 hour high: 160.59800, 24 hour vwap: 145.09000
davout: it's going to crash so hard
davout: i predict we'll drop to 40 USD/BTC when jurov releases his scary numbers
jurov: oh, non-slovaks will be told "Strata" means profit
davout: i don't speak slovak and my box doesn't speak flash :D
davout: slovak looks even more hardcore than romanian
jurov: lol.. i think we have biggest number of accented characters in yurp
davout: i'm sure i'll make vi segfault if i try to paste that
davout: error4733: french is always worst
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7717 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77160001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7714 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.73 = 3.46 BTC [-]
davout: notepad segfaults if you just look at it the wrong way, i'm sure i can make vi segfault
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1998 BTC [+]
KRS-1: might be able to segfault vi by using vi opening a symlink to vi
davout: as long as everyone hates xcode humanity still has a chance
thestringpuller: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance thanks to Bitcoin.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.0971 BTC [-]
error4733: why ? you just bought bitcoin instead of your car insurance ? :D
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.269184 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000539441722066 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
mircea_popescu: i had sex with two girls up until 2pm because of bitcoin
thestringpuller: did you tell them how many bitcoins you had, and they started blowing you?
mircea_popescu: i was wearing bitcoin buttons and it sparked a conversation
thestringpuller: buttons and cufflings are two entirely different things bro :P
davout: my sex appeal troubles ladies and gents without distinction apparently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1015 @ 0.00065536 = 0.6652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17454 @ 0.00066345 = 11.5799 BTC [+]
deadweasel: truffles, no, i don't use btc as a means to a wet cock
kakobrekla: aw, could have gotten a village of girls then
mircea_popescu: i only share bills and fines. i don't share the finer things of life :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 25 @ 0.285 = 7.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00065007 = 2.4703 BTC [-]
davout: oh noes, no trilema credits left
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
deadweasel: congrats mircea_popescu !!! one year and going gangbusters
davout: mircea_popescu: pic of you wearing a party hat or it didn't happen
davout: the right size is when feet correctly touch the ground, your argument is invalid
lippoper1: so one year and how many millions have you made already?
jcpham: bitcoin is my tax write-off
Doffx: Cryptostreet looks interesting
mircea_popescu: yes. one year later and with none of the key people/ideas/etc.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: but srsly, bitinstant has srs problems
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 165.90000, Best ask: 165.92997, Bid-ask spread: 0.02997, Last trade: 165.90000, 24 hour volume: 170812.60135934, 24 hour low: 132.63000, 24 hour high: 165.78000, 24 hour vwap: 147.24836
mircea_popescu: so the issue here is, paypal CEO actually got asked about bitcoin, actually said he's fascinated with it, ACTUALLY SAID they are considering moving over.
kakobrekla: just like gox goes from "we will implement ltc" to "we are considering it" few weeks later
mircea_popescu: pp are assholes and mtgox are assholes, but quite different types of assholes i would say.
mircea_popescu: like a top new york firm lawyer is an asshole and some tribal witch doctor in nigeria are both assholes
lippoper1: so overall, do you still believe Mt.Gox will implement LTC and/or NMC ?
Scrat: well, theres no lag now. throwing more hardware at shitty software works
Doffx: I still see plenty of .01 orders
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 163.50000, Best ask: 164.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 164.00000, 24 hour volume: 174282.55009237, 24 hour low: 132.63000, 24 hour high: 166.43424, 24 hour vwap: 147.69064
davout: i think the lag is the least of their problems
mircea_popescu: slush has been fucked over by both linode and ovh so far, as in, insider jobs.
mircea_popescu: mtgox doesn't seem like they have enough of a clue to get proper physical security of their servers in place
davout: slush got fucked by ovh ? ouch
mircea_popescu: yet in spite of being a bigger target thery've not been hit yet. something here is wrong.
davout: mircea_popescu: because when an ovh server is installed the first thing to do, like in the first ten seconds you get the server is to remove their backdoor, namely a couple of ssh keys in /root/.ssh
orkaa: davout, you sure it's like that?
orkaa: davout, if it's similar as hetzner (it should be), they're just providing an rescue image
orkaa: but you have to reboot to get there
davout: yep, they have a backdoor installed, it's supposed to be for their support, if for whatever reason they need root access to your machine
davout: if you remove they key a reboot is necessary to compromise your machine
Scrat: which is moot since you should never have ssh exposed to the internet
orkaa: Scrat, isn't that the point of ssh? :)
davout: and if you have a passphrase on your wallet it'll lock it down at reboot
mircea_popescu: davout ya, so it'll lock it down at reboot. but the attacker installs a logger, then you reboot, put your pw in and then it reboots again.
orkaa: davout, that's still exposed to the internet technically
davout: orkaa: you can whitelist another server as required hop
davout: mircea_popescu: correct, i do concur that physically securing servers is important
Scrat: davout: but only a handful of providers will do that (and you have to colo)
orkaa: davout, sure, but at the end of the road it's still exposed to the internet somehow
davout: servers in nuclear bunker
orkaa: just some points of obscurity added inbetween
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.144 = 2.288 BTC [+]
davout: orkaa: that's why it's useless
jurov: why can't anybody have secured backend?
davout: Scrat: gotta know what you want :-)
jurov: issuing btc transactions doesn't required some huge bandwidth/latency
jurov: i don't understand why you need to have it sitting in dc
Scrat: mircea_popescu: everyone will give you a locked cage, im talking more than that
Scrat: orkaa: ssh firewalled to a single static ip (while dropping all other packets) does not qualify as open to the internet
jurov: Scrat, when was the last remote ssh exploit? 10yrs ago?
Scrat: jurov: you have a point there, but this doesn't only apply to ssh
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0951 = 0.1902 BTC [-]
jurov: as opposed to some filthy datacenter mucking with your machine
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [-]
jurov: mircea_popescu, i think there was some attack that required you to feed several megabytes to the port before the openssh server folded
jurov: and also debian's weak keys
mircea_popescu: "is there escrow for very large sums ? cause i could do it".
Scrat: jurov: plenty of serious attacks on SSL in the past years though
orkaa: Scrat, IPs can be spoofed
Scrat: which openSSH uses
Scrat: orkaa: I'd like you see you spoof a tcp handshake
orkaa: yeah it's very unlikely but possible
kakobrekla: coin is gonna be worthless soon at this rate
Scrat: ;;eightball does MPOE-PR have a dick
jcpham: i kinda like the idea of re-stealing bitcoins
jcpham: oops, sorry hacker you stored your ill-gotten gains ona web wallet. too bad, try again.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.11101, Best ask: 154.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.88899, Last trade: 152.11101, 24 hour volume: 181715.91267301, 24 hour low: 133.25000, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 149.18437
guruvan: breakfast was more exciting
mod6: its like people just wake up, have a beer, get on the internet and go, "let's bring wall-street to BTC!!!111"
mircea_popescu: because wall street is this concept right ? which is accessible to them
mircea_popescu: this is how they got involved with bitcoin too. by symlinking the Bitcoin symbol.
mircea_popescu: sorta like, why bother installing vi ? just make a file called vi and that's it, you have vi now
jurov: yawn, another half hour talk about why is the regulation bad and taxes immoral
assbot: Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0023263 BTC [-]
mpexbot: mod6: S.DICE 1 day: average: 0.00239767 high: 0.00240002 low: 0.0023263 volume: 6713 btc: 16.0955419 7 day: average: 0.00274501 high: 0.00371221 low: 0.0012 volume: 71819 btc: 197.14412849 30 day: average: 0.00322186 high: 0.0045 low: 0.0012 volume: 1575370 btc: 5075.6277982
jcpham: what is this desire to involve wall street
mod6: its like they think that bitcoin hasn't "made it" unless maria is talking about it everyday or some bullshit
mod6: mircea_popescu: damn, nice rack
jcpham: let's get the credit card companies to accept btc too
jcpham: bitcoin reminds me a lot of fight club
jcpham: especially the first rule and eventual ending
jcpham: delusion is pretty good
mod6: i knew i was supposed to be golfing in the ghetto instead of working on this retarded database...
mircea_popescu: "On your tenth anniversary, you will still be ten years ahead of the rest."
jurov: jcpham, now how would you imagine bitcoin credit card to work?
jurov: maybe with fiat only, bitcoin to be used only to repay
jcpham: i'm sortof anti-technology
jcpham: as funny as that may sound
jcpham: i'd fund a bitcoin credit card throuhg intermediaries most likely
jcpham: no but it's the interpretation
mod6: didn't take long for the meme's to pop up on those pictures.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it kinda looks like google translate became a singularity and is now trolling me
KRS-1: heh thats pretty funny..and creative
KRS-1: I'm chillin at work
KRS-1: I'm a po man's bitcoina masta
KRS-1: i sold most of my loot from mining ops
mod6: mircea_popescu: i really like the year long graph btw, thanks for putting that in there.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.00000, Best ask: 152.20200, Bid-ask spread: 0.20200, Last trade: 152.00000, 24 hour volume: 208710.00960842, 24 hour low: 133.30010, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 149.97855
mod6: ze ole bitcoin roll-over kakobrekla
gribble: There are currently 20478.063 bitcoins demanded at or over 130.0 USD, worth 2864105.87673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0070 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.0033 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.40001 = 2.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.144 = 2.288 BTC [+]
mod6: it has been more vol in the last ~36 hours than in the previous few days
mod6: but newbs will prob. get goxxed when the lag-a-thon continues
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.01629 = 0.0977 BTC [-]
mod6: maybe he wants 2 cyber?
Scrat: 16/f/las vegas here
mircea_popescu: "This community being what it is (40% ex-SA trolls, 30% clueless idiots, 10% intelligent assholes, 10% blatant scammers, 5% psychopaths, 2% bored college kids, 2% eccentric entrepreneurs, 1% Phinneaus Gage, and 1% people who can't count)"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4512 = 4.512 BTC [+]
MoneyHoney: Do I have to do something to see the cheat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.451 = 4.51 BTC [-]
jborkl: hmm, I wonder which group I fit into
jborkl: well, I think I can count ok
jborkl: Well, clicking on that link and seeing the stick figures inspired confidence
kakobrekla: well, mircea has MECoin (mind experiment coin), rather buy some of those
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
Scrat: see, didn't even have to invent an altcoin
jborkl: I had not even heard of them
jborkl: These places are blowing up faster than I can keep up with them
mod6: lol "Please do not call, do not email."
jborkl: looks like 160 might have been the new high, for now
jborkl: well 167 for the last few ..
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assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1433 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.4631 = 4.3893 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4631 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1433 BTC [-]
gribble: bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.44 = 14.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1005 = 0.201 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <davout> because skateboards
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00065807 = 2.6323 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00065807 = 8.8181 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8946 @ 0.00066345 = 5.9352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27654 @ 0.00066904 = 18.5016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 796 @ 0.00066904 = 0.5326 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00068389 = 5.7447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00070482 = 10.678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5173 @ 0.00070888 = 3.667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5481 @ 0.00071424 = 3.9147 BTC [+]
Scrat: assbot: stfu bro or ill pop you
Scrat: i am the ass whisperer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.000705 = 1.7625 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i recall this is one of the recent noobs but can't place him
kakobrekla: silvervault guy, binary bitcoin options something something
gesell: kakobrekla: true that but more volume in HFT (algo trading) the past month or so
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.0007 = 3.85 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: "hi i open a account about one week to trade bit coins, in mt4 plataform, i lost the bit direction to send a initial deposit please send me again."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 576 @ 0.00299999 = 1.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00349938 = 4.1993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0007 = 3.43 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00070961 = 5.3221 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.25000, Best ask: 142.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 142.25000, 24 hour volume: 234722.15707060, 24 hour low: 136.07360, 24 hour high: 166.43438, 24 hour vwap: 150.32353
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45010001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42500001 = 0.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1674 @ 0.00070972 = 1.1881 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00071 = 4.97 BTC [+]
jborkl: lulz, I just read the Trilema blog
jborkl: great stuff , so very true in - history can teach much about the future
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29859999 BTC [+]
error4733: true : first well documented inflation is the sesterce in ancian roman empire
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.2986 = 3.2846 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.00301 = 1.505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 240 @ 0.003 = 0.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28000003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.28000003 = 1.12 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: wat no
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: remind me of that 'you can do anything video'
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14395 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.145 = 8.015 BTC [+]
MJR_: kakobrekla: skateboards!
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 14 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <davout> because skateboards
MJR_: i've been on here all day
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu apparently they still work.
dub: Ilya is an Erlang/Elixir developer with over 12 years experience as a helpdesk team leader
MJR_: i requested an invite
MJR_: the more exchanges the merrier
mod6: lol "you can do anything!"
MJR_: anyone know how to unsubscribe from a mt gox channel (socket.io API)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.285 BTC [+]
mod6: lol "I've never been punched!"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [+]
mod6: MJR_: `route add 72.52.5.0/24 127.0.0.1` <<< should do the trick
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <jborkl> lulz, I just read the Trilema blog << there's like... i dunno, 7000 articles ? i doubt you read it all :D
jborkl: oh yeah, the one about African American housing
jborkl: If people read what you say, and not what they want it to say. You are actually being very polite most of the time
jborkl: they just are not smart enough to read properly
mircea_popescu: jborkl it's very hard, this. probably the hardest thing in the world. in the end all science can be reinterpreted as a desperate and ultimately doomed attempt to read what nature says
MJR_: you just need to use JSON.stringify on the message first...
jborkl: Holy fuck, that is the worst idea I have ever heard of
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1439 = 2.2878 BTC [-]
MJR_: what is scary about bex.io?
MJR_: isn't that the same library all those kind of guys are using now?
alex12: so im trying to setup my third video card in my p55 motherboard - however its not working, two of ANY of the video cards work, but when i power up 3, one of the cards is disabled / issues (OpenCL / ADL hardware detection issues_
alex12: could it be motherboard power related?
mircea_popescu: there's a controller limit which only allows 2 cards at a time
mircea_popescu: not any very good ones. most miners have issues with this ending up with very speciffic mb / card combos because of it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.117 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.19809 = 1.1885 BTC [-]
jborkl: easy enough , like you said to short it - just one wire