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mircea_popescu: i can see that
mircea_popescu: still... legend is a ways off.
thestringpuller: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg <- some of his stuff is neat...(or is it)?
mircea_popescu: wences :
mircea_popescu: ;;market buy 20900
gribble: A market order to buy 20900 bitcoins right now would take 2764990.5722 USD and would take the last price up to 139.6900 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.2962 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
wences: thank you!
wences: you don't forget anything, do you? :)
mircea_popescu: i have people halping me :D
wences: Maybe you ARE many people; some with a beard, some without...
kakobrekla: hehe
thestringpuller: every 5 days
thestringpuller: kakobrekla and mircea_popescu switch places
kakobrekla: wha?
mircea_popescu: wences incidentally, seems you're the most recognisable face of the bildercoin.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/#comment-92857
mircea_popescu: took less thna a day
mircea_popescu: (course mpoe-pr was recognised on sight but it's not really a fair comparison given the audience)
wences: hahahaha! You should not let people take such wild guesses anonymously
wences: make them show themselves :)
thestringpuller: what's bildercoin...
thestringpuller: wait whaaaa
mircea_popescu: hehe trilema has an old tradition in anonimity.
wences: :)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu what are these pictures from? an expensive dinner?
mircea_popescu: yeah
thestringpuller: in romania?
thestringpuller: lol
maximian: the second guy on the left looks a bit like evoorhees http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image.jpeg
kakobrekla: the first pic is called "the first supper"
pizzaman1337: and the second pic, "the last supper"?
kakobrekla: nah
thestringpuller: so this was taken before MPEX?
mircea_popescu: maximian right on.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, not before mpex. before yesterday.
b0n1: ;;isdown mtgox.com
gribble: Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
maximian: heh, no shit!
thestringpuller: MPOE-PR is the woman in the red dress
b0n1: ;;
mircea_popescu: that's his lovely ex gf, michelle right next to him
b0n1: ;; help
gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
maximian: ok, so that explains where he's been
b0n1: !facts
thestringpuller: So these homies flew to romania to have dinner with you and smoke pot?
mircea_popescu: we can't afford pot yet.
mircea_popescu: maybe if bitcoin goes up moar.
b0n1: ^^
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37167887.jpg
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: I forgot Europeans don't celebrate 4/20
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ain't nobody got time for that tiberiusiv
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-]
dub: is that luke two to the left of mircea?
taub: so is there a point in investing in asics?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
taub: kinda contemplating it, but i think all it will do really is give you a prety small % roi
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: luke ?! no luke.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: lol mircea_popescu is like a cartoon: wears the same clothes in every picture
thestringpuller: and always has his collar popped
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.079 BTC [-]
dub: wait is mircea the almish one with the vest and beard or the popped collar white suit guy
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: no he's the one in the suit that he's always in
dub: I thought almish at first
thestringpuller: the white suit with the black shirt
thestringpuller: with the popped collar
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: y u pop yo collar?
mircea_popescu: tis not popped tho.
dub: dat onefixt two to the right
dub: amirite
dub: tux next to him?
mircea_popescu: nope
thestringpuller: ;;next
gribble: \*AWAY UNTIL April 28\* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 51 seconds ago
mircea_popescu: tux prolly too big to fit in the room.
mircea_popescu: we has limited space in romani.
mircea_popescu: a
gribble: There are currently 32712810 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19862579.1046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1102.5192 seconds
thestringpuller: MPOE-PR knows how to dress...
dub: oh its in romania?
thestringpuller: Look at dem shoes
thestringpuller: so visual proof that MPOE-PR is a femme fatale
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.750001 = 3.5 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: (check)
dub: I think youd need a closer inspection to be sure
dub: not sure if not trap
thestringpuller: I've been seduced by enough femme fatales in the film noire phase of my life to know a femme fatale when I see one
mircea_popescu: lol suspicious dub
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what did MPEX's ddos peak at?
mircea_popescu: most i've seen was ~100 gbit.
thestringpuller: daaaamn
mircea_popescu: actual peak possibly higher than that
thestringpuller: that's so much traffic...
mircea_popescu: yes.
thestringpuller: mtgox was hit with about 77
Scrat: http://www.microguy.net/images/staff.jpg
Scrat: hit by gojirra
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1989 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: what's gojira ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009998 = 0.1 BTC [-]
Scrat: gohiraaaa
b0n1: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.102353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00220910306944 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
thestringpuller: GOOOOOJIRRRRAAAAAAA
thestringpuller: It's how japanese people say Godzilla
thestringpuller: GOJIRAAA
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.46307, Best ask: 123.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53693, Last trade: 123.00000, 24 hour volume: 112146.25165570, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.37855
mircea_popescu: oic
kakobrekla: this ripple name... seems to attract many scams? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JIJ9gemxxD8
kakobrekla: s/name/word
Namworld: Hmm... anyone would like to take on some BTC-BOND? Someone wants to redeem and I don't feel like buying at these prices...
Namworld: Guess I'll just have to
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000643 = 0.1286 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000642 = 0.077 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 734 @ 0.000642 = 0.4712 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000641 = 0.3205 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1475 @ 0.00061 = 0.8998 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 155 @ 0.000597 = 0.0925 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: where?
kakobrekla: silence is golden
kakobrekla: go to otc then
kakobrekla: switch in between
kakobrekla: i feel like i dont know him
kakobrekla: elevator music
ThickAsThieves: Bruno Mars is the bastard child of Michael Jackson and Elvis
ThickAsThieves: he creeps me out
ThickAsThieves: but yes, he has a nice voice
ThickAsThieves: to each his own
Scrat: elevator music you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwHjRIlCnU
Scrat: skip to 2:15
Scrat: well thats what my elevator is playing
dub: guys I've got some bad news
dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcrfg5np8o
dub: we're going to have to wrap this human species thing up and start over
dub: thats actually pretty good
dub: Mulder swapping aliens for scotch and young bitches
thestringpuller: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thestringpuller: OMG
thestringpuller: OMG
thestringpuller: Californication is about a writer Hank Moody (Dchovny) who has perpetual writers block.
thestringpuller: He proceeds to sleep with everyone.
thestringpuller: Californication is pretty much the story of mircea_popescu, if he were a writer with writer's block...
thestringpuller: what's the mean "much to be desired"
thestringpuller: he keeps you wanting more?
thestringpuller: lol would you prefer Paul Graham?
thestringpuller: justin tv?
Namworld: Anyone holding GSDPT on BTCT.co?
thestringpuller: justin tv is ycombinator?
Namworld: I guess not
kakobrekla: https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=527
kakobrekla: So you all know, one thing we are noticing is that we keep losing the connection to the MTGox source data feed about every 20 minutes, however we automatically reconnect. This past hour we also noticed 2 interruptions lasting 3 minutes.
kakobrekla: We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured.
kakobrekla: They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct.
kakobrekla: #win
kakobrekla: and they will support btc-e and bitstamp and the local bar toilet hole
kakobrekla: retarded.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.11 = 11.1 BTC [+]
error4733: " Trading through with MTGox through Sierra Chart is not yet supported. This should be supported within the next 30 days. "
Namworld: Damn just bought some BTC
error4733: Ho Ho Ho, chrismas before time
Namworld: I don't like buying at those prices
Namworld: But some wanted to redeem some BTC-BOND
kakobrekla: i wouldnt worry error4733, its gonna suck as much as gox sucks
gribble: There are currently 27835.495 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2997236.30925 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0092 seconds
error4733: its was
error4733: <error4733> !bids 101
error4733: [22:20] <gribble> There are currently 20546.789 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2270526.2342 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0054 seconds
error4733: 3h ago
error4733: ;;bids 101
gribble: There are currently 21613.226 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2374477.9266 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.8428 seconds
error4733: nvm...
dub: apparently you can pay gox for a more realtimey socket, SC should do that
kakobrekla: they offer that?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00365 = 0.073 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0036 = 0.144 BTC [-]
dub: according to neofutur they do
kakobrekla: uhh?
dub: he is some form of gox lackey/shill
dub: erryday im shillin
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00219 BTC [+]
dub: shillin villain style
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
Namworld: Really no GSDPT holder?
Namworld: I have a good offer...
ThickAsThieves: Nam what are oy asking about GSDPT?
ThickAsThieves: you*
ThickAsThieves: i think i have some
error4733: take that MtGox : The streaming data feed from MTGox is not working at the moment. Their server is just not streaming any data. They really have serious reliability and efficiency problems. From what we can see, there whole architecture was not designed for efficiency. Obviously they will know best, but what we see is that one of their main problems is not so much that they have overwhelmed systems, more that they d
error4733: o not have efficient data delivery.
Namworld: I want to sell into those bids. I'll offer a 5% bonus for trade with S.DICE-PT units
ThickAsThieves: i'm wrong
ThickAsThieves: i have none
ThickAsThieves: forgot i sold
ThickAsThieves: been away for a few days
Namworld: So like 4000 GSDPT units for 4200 S.DICE-PT if anyone else is interested
ThickAsThieves: i asked DT about moving some of my BF shares and he never got back to me
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0022 BTC [+]
Namworld: He was here earlier
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 28 @ 0.00221 = 0.0619 BTC [+]
dub: scamtrading
dub: lmiot
Namworld: lmiot?
dub: hao aboot 1337 shares of usagicorp for 300btc of pirate debt
dub: let me in on that
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol
mircea_popescu: these haters not understanding socket i/o over web socket geniuz.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00221 = 0.0044 BTC [+]
Namworld: Eh, whatever, dub
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136658053566.jpg bwahaha who did this ?
kakobrekla: lolz
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.085001 = 5.425 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.085 = 3.255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003581 = 0.1791 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00351 = 0.2106 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.055 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Dude Capital One sabotaged Bitfloor
mircea_popescu: heh.
thestringpuller: We process for them and I'm looking at documents...
thestringpuller: holy shit this is soooo fucked up
error4733: stop teasing
thestringpuller: I don't know who is on the wrong, but they claim "Undue risk"
thestringpuller: I wonder who will be next :P
thestringpuller: Looks like exchanges are better off storing the fiat under matresses...
kakobrekla: nah, they should buy bitcoin with that fiat
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00351 = 0.0281 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1768 @ 0.0035 = 6.188 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82999989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 243 @ 0.0035 = 0.8505 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is an interesting concept. what risk is due ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.05 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0461 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.033 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.011 = 2.022 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.01 = 5.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00069635 = 8.8436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0014 = 0.77 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well you could mitigate at least a portion of it
kakobrekla: (ab)use mpex bot and then you are as weak as the weakest link
kakobrekla: i mean no, the strongest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82999989 = 3.66 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: is it not so?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu Capital One hate's risk, their loyalty platform runs in cobol because they are terrified of change...
thestringpuller: that's what happens when you're "Too big to fail" the smallest amount of risk is "unsettling"
thestringpuller: but it's kind of bullshit since most banks to unethical/illicit things anyways...
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182685.0
kakobrekla: >The company’s trading algorithms currently run on electronic exchanges such as Nasdaq, BATS, EDGE, NYSE, and BTC-E.
kakobrekla: i think he is 21 days late.
kakobrekla: or 20, depends what your local time is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4855555 = 4.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00069717 = 7.7386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6224 @ 0.000695 = 4.3257 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1926 @ 0.00069452 = 1.3376 BTC [-]
dub: thestringpuller: not suprising really, don't know about US but here there is legistlation covering banking technology
dub: e.g. if a bank causes losses due to technical fuckup people can get charged with a crime
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol
mircea_popescu: Shares: 100,000 Price: .20 bitcoins, but tbd by free market
mircea_popescu: imo the best part.
mircea_popescu: !ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1 / 1.09486 / 1.2 (182 shares, 199.3 BTC), 7D: 0.79 / 1.08844 / 1.75 (1627 shares, 1770.9 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.82495 / 1.75 (8260 shares, 6814.1 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: he's going to do 3x better than asicminer on the strength of having made a forum post.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what is your opinion on asicminer?
mircea_popescu: bout the same as a month ago
thestringpuller: I never got the memo.
thestringpuller: CAUSE IT'S BEHIND A PAYWALL!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.1098 = 8.8784 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well...
mircea_popescu: i dont think i ever wrote about it on my blog
mircea_popescu: i think you just asked me the same q a month ago
taub: what is that picture of your family gathering about
taub: is MPOE-PR female now or not
taub: i'm foncused :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: cool
thestringpuller: WINTER IS COMING
thestringpuller: Mark my words
mod6: haha wat? it's been snowing here all month.
mod6: winter is still here.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.05 = 10.5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: my rosemary bush is in bloom
mircea_popescu: you've not seen something like this, it looks like a lilac.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.41001 = 1.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19989 = 1.9989 BTC [+]
mod6: we got like 7" of snow last week easy.
bowjob: http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ele/3758263779.html
mircea_popescu: https://www.bitlc.net/ lol
bowjob: lol
stslimited: hello kakobrekla from bitcointalk suggested I come here
stslimited: regarding an upcoming IPO posting
stslimited: thread I made
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: he did the right thing!
stslimited: great, conditioning in its finest
dub: mircea_popescu: tl;dr
mircea_popescu: Domestic Limited-Liability Company
mircea_popescu: File Number: 2012-000626131
mircea_popescu: Filing State: Wyoming (WY)
mircea_popescu: Company Age: 9 Months
mircea_popescu: Principal Address: Po Box 20539
mircea_popescu: New York, NY 10001
mircea_popescu: Mailing Address: Po Box 20539
mircea_popescu: New York, NY 10001
mircea_popescu: is that you ?
stslimited: yes, continued from Nevada
stslimited: so 2 years
mircea_popescu: are you that fuckwited in the head to imagine anyone in bitcoin gives two shits about your pointless llc ?
stslimited: elaborate?
stslimited: people are interested in high frequency trading
mircea_popescu: no. shut the fuck up.
thestringpuller: hahahaha
stslimited: go on
mircea_popescu: read here for six months or a year
mircea_popescu: get with the program
mircea_popescu: then maybe you ipo something for 500 or so coins.
mircea_popescu: maybe.
stslimited: you haven't told me anything about what the problem with the document was
mircea_popescu: there is no document
stslimited: the OP
stslimited: the thread
mircea_popescu: just an ignorant idiot (you)
mircea_popescu: now stop talking to me before you go on my ignore
mircea_popescu: and do what you are told.
thestringpuller: lol wow this is the most upset I've seen mr. popescu
thestringpuller: good job stslimited
mircea_popescu: no but it's beyond outrage this shit.
stslimited: I mean, harr harr senior member of an incrowd picks on new user in their own channel
stslimited: woop de doo thats never happened on the internet
mircea_popescu: i mean asicminer trades 6k btc in a month on btct herpderp here's guy with a 20k btc plan.
stslimited: okay
mircea_popescu: he has no fucking idea what's what and we're all playing at internets.
kakobrekla: lmao
mircea_popescu: doth not work, this.
stslimited: oh, the number of shares was in bitcoins
mircea_popescu: x.x
stslimited: why do you feel that an algorithmic trading fund is not structured as correctly as the mining share companies
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]
stslimited: this is what I came in here for
thestringpuller: ;;getatin stslimited
gribble: Error: "getatin" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: ;;getrating stslimited
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
thestringpuller: okay lets start
thestringpuller: I'm a n00b
thestringpuller: And even I am in the OTC
thestringpuller: you are not
thestringpuller: why should I invest in you?
thestringpuller: how can I even trust you?
thestringpuller: yes...
thestringpuller: WoT so to speak
thestringpuller: (Web of Trust)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is he on your ignore yet?
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yes.
dub: thestringpuller: just because every hft/etf in bitcoin to date has been a thinly disguised robbery don't mean this guy aint legit
thestringpuller: sign me up!
dub: LMIOT
mircea_popescu: dub i thought you were with the tl;dr program
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what is that bitcoin drama timeline post you had?
mircea_popescu: ok i gotta try this
mircea_popescu: ;;google bitcoin drama timeline post i had
gribble: BitCoin Drama Continues After Hours | Zero Hedge: <http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-10/bitcoin-drama-continues-after-hours>; The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/>; bitcoin posts on CNET - Cnet TV: <http://cnettv.cnet.com/8300-5_53-0.html?keyword=bitcoin>
mircea_popescu: pesky zh how dare they
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00391 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: stslimited: read http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
dub: stslimited: there probably is one, and certianly many operating in private, the problem as mircea_popescu is trying to elloquate is trust
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: the problem i am discussing is ignorance. this fuckwit proceeds to not even bother researching the field before "building" nonsense.
dub: stslimited: you really need to start small and earn it, there is no easy route
thestringpuller: ^ exactly
mircea_popescu: he has no fucking idea about anything whatsoever other than "o i saw this [uninformed] thing about bitcoin cause the price went up"
thestringpuller: what does it matter?
dub: stslimited: this is for the obvious reason that there is no way for anyone to recover bitcoins entrusted to you if you decide to be untrustworth
dub: *y
thestringpuller: stslimited: lets take a look at numbers
thestringpuller: For the actuarially inclined, the total losses to theft, fraud and stupidity plus anything in between amount to 1.296 million BTC.
thestringpuller: Even if you have the best intentions, this world is ruthless.
thestringpuller: So how would you not end up losing money?
thestringpuller: even if not from directly trying to scam us, you maybe inept like many others before you
thestringpuller: then you are added the graveyard of dead companies that keeps piling up
thestringpuller: another body
kakobrekla: pirates nav increas was very nice
thestringpuller: HAHAHAHA
kakobrekla: indeed
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aussie_striker's is better. go with the found.
thestringpuller: that fact you don't know who pirate is raises grave concerns
thestringpuller: you are unwilling to educate yourself, and that is mircea_popescu's issue
thestringpuller: are you kidding?
thestringpuller: there are millions upon millions of dollars done in trade in otc
thestringpuller: the WoT is for bitcoin millionaires to quote MPOE-PR, the very people who's coin you are trying to solicity
thestringpuller: solicit*
thestringpuller: Yes, but take a look at Ziggap.
thestringpuller: Ziggap was in theory a competitor to Bitinstant, and it's IPO sold out in some like 3-5 hours
dub: theres no real reason to try to persuade us
dub: just do it and be prepared for flames
dub: and for only noobs to throw money at it
thestringpuller: Ziggap was ipo'ed by someone who has one of the highest WoT rating
thestringpuller: yet it's price has plummeted below IPO levels just like facebook
dub: thats not a good example
thestringpuller: how are you so sure you won't encounter hurdles as you scale even if you have "a proven platform"
kakobrekla: thestringpuller, who had, not has.
dub: aethero's wot is made up of all teh micro loan muppets
kakobrekla: true
dub: he screams scammer
thestringpuller: yes, kakobrekla had* my mistake
kakobrekla: dat also
thestringpuller: ^ - yup
mircea_popescu: dub how did the entire aethero thing play out btw ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's still in progress
dub: dunno, I wouldnt touch it with yours
thestringpuller: "to be continued"
mircea_popescu: i c
thestringpuller: the website is super down
mircea_popescu: last i heard the website was donw and deprived was smelling blood.
thestringpuller: I think they went bankrupt.
thestringpuller: Someone gamed them, using the chargebacks.
thestringpuller: So they had to shut down.
thestringpuller: but it is. how long have you been operating, and what are your profit margins?
thestringpuller: how come this is the first ANYONE in this channel has heard of you?
dub: stslimited: some guidelines for you: 1) stop trying to hype your deal here, anyone with coin has already tuned out 2) hype notwithstanding; obtain an IRC client, stay in this channel and contribute 3) show us your id, shit you have done before, show up IRL at bitcoiny things
dub: stslimited: 4) do your hft thing, you'll probably get some bites, be prepared to start small and 5) don't steal peoples shit
thestringpuller: stslimited: don't try to go from gangst to godfather in a night
thestringpuller: gangsta*
mircea_popescu: since when is dub a contributing member with like positive shit and everything ?!
mircea_popescu: how long have i been asleep ?!
thestringpuller: Hahahaha. Since tonight it seems. :D
dub: sometimes I forget to troll
thestringpuller: dub is full of surprises
mircea_popescu: lol k
thestringpuller: 6) don't piss off mircea_popescu
dub: or maybe I'm just trolling you guys be encouraging the latest scam
mircea_popescu: the moral of the story being that the more of an asshole i am, the more inclined even the hardcorest trolls are to halp.
thestringpuller: oooh a popescu meme appears
thestringpuller: picture of popescu frowning: "I'm real tired of your shit"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_july2009.jpg
mircea_popescu: there's your base
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11126 @ 0.00069525 = 7.7354 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00069789 = 7.3976 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: you smokin a blunt mircea_popescu ?
thestringpuller: lololol
mircea_popescu: i can not say for legal considerations i can not disclose.
dub: stslimited: the moral is you are completely unknown and asking people to let you hold their irreversably transferred internet coins
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller anyway the deprived theory iirc was that the entire ipo was simply to float living expenses and that was all.
mircea_popescu: sorta like a simplified bdt
thestringpuller: we all saw how BDT went...
kakobrekla: i called that one here.
kakobrekla: for the record.
dub: lol
kakobrekla: :p
thestringpuller: i wonder how many ipo's ended up being pocketed...
dub: I'm still waiting for credit on calling usagi
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah
thestringpuller: usagi is just inept
dub: s/ept/sane
thestringpuller: HAH
thestringpuller: stslimited: uh not S.DICE and S.MPOE
thestringpuller: those are pretty old
thestringpuller: S.BBET is pretty young
mircea_popescu: dub you can't get credit. would you like a debit ?
thestringpuller: ZigGap stands on top as the most trusted method for purchasing BTC, and plans to offer the widest array of methods to buy Bitcoin. <<< lol
dub: just enroll me in the next tranch of $MEME.Z
thestringpuller: XD
kakobrekla: ;;rate dub 1 credit on calling usagi
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dub has changed from 1 to 1.
dub: bewm
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.096 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so wtf was this bitlc thing in the end ?
mircea_popescu: i never could figure it out and now it's gone.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.091 = 0.455 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: dub: were you the one who made the "Usagi ftw" bet?
thestringpuller: "Usagi will have an asset listed on MPEX by April 1st 2013"
kakobrekla: rg suddenly has time to troll in -otc
thestringpuller: or something like that
kakobrekla: thats a twist
kakobrekla: or maybe has been going for a while
dub: thestringpuller: negative
kakobrekla: dunno
dub: the only bet I made was 'DMC will never do anything every and eveyone will lose money' it got rejected :(
dub: ever*
dub: oh wait I did th empex will get hacked one too
mircea_popescu: https://www.bitlc.net/assets/system_infrastructure_full.jpg this makes so little sense it boggles my mind
mircea_popescu: mpex was hacked ?
dub: no when you offered reddit a bounty to hack it
mircea_popescu: o yeah
orkaa: mircea_popescu, i love the 'no internet access' server on ec2
mircea_popescu: orkaa also what use does a pool server have of a dedicated db server ?
mircea_popescu: maybe i don't understand mining but... mempool right ? it's in ram.
dub: gotta store balances and shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is really just a clever new way of promoting "VM escape exploit" research.
mircea_popescu: spell that out for me
asciilifeform: sometimes, exploits are discovered that let you break out of a VM (like the onces on Amazon's EC2) and take over the physical hardware
asciilifeform: from that point, you can snoop/modify the customer VMs, for whatever purpose you like.
asciilifeform: *ones
mircea_popescu: so he's holding btcs in there to encourage others to try and break into his amazon vm ?
asciilifeform: maybe not deliberately, but what difference does it make
mircea_popescu: such a conspiracist you are
asciilifeform: he even helpfully tells us that we need to exploit EC2/Ireland.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you are aware this is a dead service right ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well... now I am.
asciilifeform: I don't really keep up with btcdrama in real time
dub: this is why I defended linode, erryone crying about linode security, nobody pointing finger at the tards running hot wallet on shared servers
mircea_popescu: cjeck out the root, it's on the amusing side of lol.
mircea_popescu: dub at the time we were poor.
thestringpuller: The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.
thestringpuller: MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it.
thestringpuller: Something smells rotten in Denmark.The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.
mircea_popescu: the idea that "only dedicated for bitcoin" is a lot harder to push on a 1.5 dollar btc
thestringpuller: MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it.
thestringpuller: oops
thestringpuller: WOW LAG
thestringpuller: WHY PUTTY WHY DID YOU MAKE ME SPAM
thestringpuller: :(
kakobrekla: shit tyrone, get it together.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: people with old-fashioned money and connections bought in. This much is clear as daylight at this point.
mircea_popescu: ya think ?!
Namworld: I'm not so sure about that
Namworld: The news seem to be dying
Namworld: Seems more like a fad
Namworld: Than anything
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181245.0;all quoted for bolded paragraph
Namworld: And with the peak and crash, now that it returned lower
Namworld: No longer that interesting
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.00001, Best ask: 121.53998, Bid-ask spread: 0.53997, Last trade: 121.00001, 24 hour volume: 98052.49947353, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 129.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.94707
asciilifeform: re: the defunct EC2 wallet: I'd advise anyone against telling his web host that he is hosting a wallet on the latter's disks. Or, for that matter, letting it be known that a certain bank deposit box has paper coldwallets in it.
mircea_popescu: seems pretty decent to me, 120.
asciilifeform: your hosting provider and bank manager might be saints, or they might not be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im pretty sure it's impossible for bank manager to go into boxes.
asciilifeform: however it is the police (or hypothetical Gold Confiscators (TM) ) get in
asciilifeform: locksmiths exist, etc
asciilifeform: pretty much everything upon this earth that is worth back-dooring, has been back-doored (esp. in the good old U.S.A.)
mircea_popescu: actually, the evolution of paper gold vs rthe real article has been fascinating past week
mircea_popescu: the premium is what, 30% by now ?
Namworld: Yeah, I just mean, about the media, seems like they moved to the next thing.
mircea_popescu: Namworld a good thing i say.
Namworld: BTC price is still decent. Seems a bit high tho
mircea_popescu: no bubble to see here, move on to shiny rocvks.
Namworld: Of course it's a good thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: AFAIK "allocated" paper has been pretty close to the price of physical
Namworld: That hype didn't do much good.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not lately.
mircea_popescu: paper has been dumped massively.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: *allocated* paper. example: Bullionvault corp. new york branch quotes $1422 (buy; http://www.bullionvault.com/) Canadian mint: $1419. (http://www.apmex.com/Category/1158/1_oz_Gold_Bars_Only.aspx)
asciilifeform: one could debate whether allocated paper-gold is any less of a ripoff than the usual imaginary kind, but the fact remains.
dub: mircea_popescu: that thread is gold
dub: I like the cut of this pizza's gib
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hm right you are
asciilifeform: I will describe a process for extracting paper wallets from a bank box, just so it doesn't surprise anyone when it actually happens:
asciilifeform: one day, a bomb threat is called into the bank
asciilifeform: police dogs search the place, find no bomb
asciilifeform: but the deposit box room is found to smell a little of marijuana
asciilifeform: the boxes are opened, the contents photographed.
asciilifeform: and so forth.
kakobrekla: start writing books or something
kakobrekla: that could work
mircea_popescu: containers aren't opened are they.
asciilifeform: depends. perhaps your envelope will smell especially strongly. (squirt bottle.)
mircea_popescu: dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173227.msg1907593#msg1907593 have more.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik this has not in fact happened,
mircea_popescu: ie you still need a court order and identified boxes tio have tghem opened.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I didn't say it had already happened.
mircea_popescu: a a
kakobrekla: >Reported to police (they are really no help, so much for paying their salary, seems they've gotten fbi reports about bitcoins and don't really like them, started asking if I pay taxes on them...),
kakobrekla: O_O
mircea_popescu: well for that money if you can check out womenyou can probably have
mircea_popescu: oops
asciilifeform: they had door-to-door house searches in Boston last week, without any messy paperwork.
mircea_popescu: well for that money if you can check out women's parts through clothes you can probably check out printed paper through sheet metal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. pretty outrageous stuff that.
asciilifeform: in any system, find the real weak point. anyone who can access the vault during off-hours and pause the camera recorder, can pick the locks at his leisure.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: banks aren't video rental stores.
asciilifeform: my point wasn't that this kind of scenario will become routine, but that it is unwise to tell people without a need-to-know exactly where your coldwallet physically lives.
dub: whats that movie where some limeys steal royal noodz from a deposit box?
mircea_popescu: well for sure it's unwise to spread info wider than it needs to go.
mircea_popescu: dub one of the many dumbass things where that guy from pulp fiction tries to parlay his momentary fame into a career ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from the standpoint of an owner or other person with unhindered physical access, a bank is exactly the same as a video store.
mircea_popescu: nobody has unhindered access tho.
asciilifeform: firemen. banks do occasionally burn. esp. if they need to.
mircea_popescu: ya, fire is a serious problem for paper wallets.
mircea_popescu: with or without all this complex discussion.
asciilifeform: which is why you store it in 35 places, and use Shamir's algorithm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_sharing)
asciilifeform: and no one but you should know of more than a few of them.
Namworld: So tell me mircea, are you short on BTC right now?
mircea_popescu: Namworld nah.
Namworld: I'm one of the few bears around in the "speculation" channels it seems.
mircea_popescu: you have to understand tho, none of the major players will even be net short for strategic reasons.
mircea_popescu: not if they have any sense anyway.
Namworld: I suppose
Namworld: Still
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180663.0
Namworld: You've probably read a few news as we approached the peak. They were getting... crazy/unlikely. Quite the craze.
Namworld: I decided to go short
Namworld: I do not regret
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if you shorted over 200 you're well in the money now.
Namworld: I shorted what I had available at 230-250
Namworld: I'm quite sad I had so much placed into assets at that time
mircea_popescu: um
mircea_popescu: whart do you mean ? shorting and selling are different concepts.
Namworld: Yes, my bad.
pizzaman1337: I wonder what will become of this sillyness: https://twitter.com/mikko/status/326237176402673664
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 for the record : nothing.
pizzaman1337: mmk
mircea_popescu: also the guy is blocked on my twitter, which means he must have been sts-like at some point
pizzaman1337: Mikko? he's just a researcher
MJR_: hey
MJR_: how's it going everyone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00070528 = 7.6255 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: o look who's back
MJR_: hehehe
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 musta done some real bad research i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4139 @ 0.0006981 = 2.8894 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00069452 = 6.0152 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2496 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
bit_nutz: mt gox stop trading in sgd?
mircea_popescu: yes, preparing for introduction of ltc etc
bit_nutz: i see, thanks mp
mircea_popescu: bit_nutz i was being facetious, for the record.
MJR_: lol they haven't goxxed ltc yet...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6588 @ 0.00069834 = 4.6007 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3018 @ 0.00070857 = 2.1385 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahh romanian smoked cheese + anchoves on american style pancakes
mircea_popescu: fusion is where it's at i tell you!
MJR_: :)
MJR_: eventually we can open the first romanian fusion haute cuisine restaurant that accepts bitcoin lol
mircea_popescu: get 3.5 michelin stars
jurov: greets from budapest...finally :)
jurov: but i realized i don't have anywhere to rush anyway
MJR_: jurov: HI!
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov is becoming a philosopher :D
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
mircea_popescu: whoa! mtgox is finally ready for hft!
jurov: Hi mjr_
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19 BTC [-]
bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0
bowjob: Someone take me up on this >:)
mircea_popescu: bowjob you forgot to include an url
bowjob: right
bowjob: I feel confident in this game, that I;m willing to do a 1:10 odds
bowjob: So, bet 0,1 btc, win 1 BTC if you can beat me
Uglux: or play sd ^^
bowjob: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-assets
bowjob: oops
bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0
bowjob: SD is a guaranteed loss overtime
bowjob: unless you are a shareholder
Scrat: 29,99€ for an arcade?
Scrat: no fuck you capcom
bowjob: it should be worth more than that. the game is fun as hell
damientrog: Shareholders also lose on SD :/
damientrog: I remember buying at 0.6
bowjob: I got out at 0.62
bowjob: :p
bowjob: and 0.75. I missed out on the 0.19 panic
troc: 0.12 even
troc: any news ?
bowjob: did it go that low? O;
damientrog: yeah I bought at 0.2 as well
damientrog: and resold at .45
damientrog: so it's not all bad
damientrog: but still
damientrog: I have a respectable amount of shares in SD
troc: at least div is looking better this month
damientrog: that's good news
troc: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1906329#msg1906329
bowjob: the bet volume isnt too good
damientrog: the higher value of BTC
damientrog: the lower the volume that will be bet
damientrog: yeah I love this dooglus guy
bowjob: the argument against that was.. as btc price grows, more people use them.. and more play on s.dice
damientrog: he must really be into statistics :)
bowjob: dooglus.. he played satoshi dice before
bowjob: about 600 dollars bet
bowjob: back then when btc was single to double digits
damientrog: I've done my bets as well
damientrog: and won very well
damientrog: then quit
bowjob: wise decision
damientrog: and bought shares in the house
damientrog: since the house always wins, so I thougth :)
bowjob: hah. thats how riches are made
damientrog: I hope… :)
damientrog: but I like Erik as well, I trust he'll come up with something to revive SD
troc: ev speaks well, always impresses me how he communicates on air.
damientrog: yup a very good advocate for Bitcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [+]
bowjob: no ones taking me up on my offer. are the odds too low?
deadweasel: nobody wants to buy the game for a chance to lose to you.
deadweasel: methinks
deadweasel: plus it's time for work. ;)
damientrog: deadweasel is right :)
MJR_: i wonder...
MJR_: are there any charts or order books that account for OTC?
MJR_: there is a 6000 coin sell at ~123
MJR_: and a 8000 coin buy at 125
bowjob: well confession bear here.. I think the odds are 99.9% in my favour lol
damientrog: ah you're just here to elate your ego :)
damientrog: and we're too pussy to prove you wrong
bowjob: nah. i want some btc. :3
mircea_popescu: MJR_ prolly something you can make. not so hard to query the book
bowjob: Thinking of offering a free game if... they deposit at least 1 btc to john
bowjob: There is a risk for me..
bowjob: if someone out there in an A ranker, I'd get destroyed
MJR_: well, i would like to make $12000 on one order...
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.01498 = 0.1049 BTC [+]
troc: rock, paper ... scissors ? How can you be an A ranker in that over the net ?
bowjob: punches beat throws, throws beat blocks and blocks beat punches
Sin|CRUNK: bowjob: offer to buy them the game if they deposit 1 btc
bowjob: rock paper scissors system. its a game where you beat your opponents using those moves,
bowjob: Yes, I'm thinking about it
bowjob: I still need to talk to john about this, he can be my escrow
bowjob: I'm still brainstorming rules, taking into account for latency
bowjob: There, done.
bowjob: Taking any and all challengers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5946 @ 0.00326035 = 19.386 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00367 = 0.0184 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0036 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.0031 = 0.093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9633 @ 0.00070857 = 6.8257 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2476 @ 0.00070989 = 1.7577 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639998 = 0.8892 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29639999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639999 = 0.8892 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.296499 = 2.965 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.296499 = 1.4825 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.296499 BTC [+]
bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142
bowjob: updated.
bowjob: anything else should I include?
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19989 = 0.3998 BTC [+]
bowjob: sure
bowjob: u got the game alreayd?
bowjob: heck we can go old school if you want.
bowjob: play SF2. its a game older than me
bowjob: :)
bowjob: any proposals?
bowjob: id love to get my hands on skullgirls, but they are not out yet
Sin|CRUNK: isn't it out for ps3
bowjob: it is, but not for pc
orkaa: http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48547675807/the-definitive-people-who-thought-chechnya-was-the
orkaa: a nice wall of ameritards
bowjob: im watching th rules
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.013 = 0.117 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0126 = 0.1008 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.012 = 0.204 BTC [-]
bowjob: you gave me an idea
kakobrekla: OMG fuckin bitstamp idiots
kakobrekla: they cant even figure out whats wrong with their website / "exchange" / toilet hole
bowjob: I added a second game to play
bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142
bowjob: I;m thinking 1:1 on team fortress as well, but its not fit for a 1v1 game.
bowjob: nah
bowjob: the game is too rigid for me
bowjob: yeah
daybyter: Great!
daybyter: <= likes chess...
bowjob: i still have to learn the basic strats for it
bowjob: i know the moves, ect
daybyter: I've actually coded a chess engine once...
daybyter: but it's quite poor..
bowjob: oh wow. they have a surgeon simulator videogame
bowjob: lol
bowjob: wait i quit the vid miday
bowjob: midway
bowjob: lol
bowjob: perhaps later. its bedtime for me now, its 5:50 AM
bowjob: >_>
daybyter: oh...2:51 pm here...
bowjob: truffles, game of tactics arena?
bowjob: :3
bowjob: no btcs, consider it a warmup
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.104 = 2.208 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10001 BTC [-]
bowjob: http://www.tacticsarena.com/play/
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.07 = 6.42 BTC [-]
bowjob: ill wait for u on banff server
bowjob: im here now
bowjob: turn based strategy
bowjob: k, the game randomly picks who moves first
bowjob: i pick my move, then ur turn. the goal is you kill more of my guys than you kill of me
bowjob: u playin?
bowjob: im in banff
bowjob: aye
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 76 @ 0.2965 = 22.534 BTC [+]
bowjob: yeap
bowjob: wanna go at it?
bowjob: floor 7
bowjob: wait lemme set up
bowjob: my guys. u can chang etheir beginning stances
bowjob: ready
deadweasel: https://btc.sx/?tab=signup
deadweasel: somebody alpha testing this.
deadweasel: user Sealy in bitcoin-analysis... interesting.
bowjob: enter
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 53 @ 0.003679 = 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00209 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: this one is new to me http://i.imgur.com/vlKihqr.jpg
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19999 BTC [+]
bowjob: would anyone be interested in rare pockies
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.2 = 7.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.47 = 9.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.225 = 9.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [-]
bowjob: how do i quote prices in btc
kakobrekla: "prices in btc"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13251 @ 0.00070989 = 9.4068 BTC [+]
bowjob: i saw people price things in btc
bowjob: and it adjusts it automatically for them
bowjob: pegging it to fiat
Scrat: find such person
Scrat: click on image -> open in new window
Scrat: copy url and replace btc value
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00301 = 0.0602 BTC [-]
Scrat: (provided that you're talking about the forum)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000679 = 0.1358 BTC [-]
bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183130.msg1911279#msg1911279
bowjob: there
bowjob: I dunnit
kakobrekla: poca sweat ?
ColdHardMetal: they have "pocari sweat" around here.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000693 = 0.104 BTC [+]
ColdHardMetal: some ghastly named gatorade equivalent.
Ukto: I had one when I was in Japan last week heh
kakobrekla: do you have some "lalala piss" too?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.09 = 7.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00070087 = 8.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00069911 = 7.3756 BTC [-]
Scrat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwpksY1Sj64
Scrat: AHAHAHAH
Scrat: fucking crazy russians
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.002 = 0.06 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: http://forexmagnates.com/bitcoin-exchange-trading-platform-coming-soon-rtbtc-flashes-specs/
zebedee_: mircea_popescu: For bitbet.us, the weight is for a 1 BTC bet I assume (i.e. proportional to size)? I might have missed something but this doesn't seem to be explained in the FAQ.
mircea_popescu: zebedee_ i'm not sure how you mean ? the weight is just a factor.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla forexmagnates ?
deadweasel: http://pastebin.com/2DWe3qci
deadweasel: only 20 minutes until debork's sham :)
deadweasel: he made it up for fun, methinks
zebedee_: mircea_popescu: Right, so my total weight if I bet 2 BTC is twice what it is if I bet 1 BTC?
mircea_popescu: yep
zebedee_: Although it may be obvious, I don't believe that's explicit anywhere.
mircea_popescu: so i get what you ask now. yes it's per btc in the sense gravity is per kilogram.
mircea_popescu: not per 1 btc specifically, just, as a factor.
zebedee_: But if I bet 1 BTC I get that weight? That makes it per BTC.
mircea_popescu: http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/prepaid/gift-cards/2013/blackhawk-completes-230-million-ipo/
mircea_popescu: so blackhawk is valued at 1.3bn.
mircea_popescu: by this comparison satoshi dice is 99% undervalued.
mircea_popescu: zebedee_ you get that weight no matter what you bet. it's your bet * that weight.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/faq/#14
zebedee_: Right.
mircea_popescu: i think that pretty much says it, wouldn't you say ?
zebedee_: I'm a mathemetician, I like precision :)
zebedee_: None of this BFL vague bet shit.
mircea_popescu: haha good, but specifically :
mircea_popescu: Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by the winning side total weight and divided by his bet's total weight.
mircea_popescu: no good ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18886 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18888 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+]
zebedee_: mircea_popescu: No I think you're right, thanks.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.192 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: np np
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00069911 = 1.0137 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006972 = 4.8455 BTC [-]
zebedee_: One more: what is your policy for bets which are determined before they expire? e.g. suppose it's a bet about BTC going above X USD by end 2013 and it happens tomorrow. Do you pay out tomorrow, or what?
mircea_popescu: there's two loose cases here. if the stated resolution is far off (ie, more than a week), and the bet is clearly satisfied then the bet is paid off now.
mircea_popescu: if the stated resolution is close the bet is resolved now or then, depending on load.
mircea_popescu: there are however bets which only resolve on their stated date, regardless. this is obvious from the wording
zebedee_: OK because people can game that if they bet just as, or immediately after, it's "happened".
mircea_popescu: (such as the avalon delivery bet was)
mircea_popescu: zebedee_ no, for two reasons. one is that bets coming in after the fact are refunded
mircea_popescu: if you look you will ocasionalyl see "refund" on the bet list.
mircea_popescu: furthermore, trying to game it this way exposes you to the following risk : if your bet doesn't make it into a block before bet is closed
mircea_popescu: you lose it.
mircea_popescu: so few people actually try to game it this way.
zebedee_: OK, that seems good.
zebedee_: Thanks. I'm curious - how do you handle your wallet?Do you pregenerate thousands of addresses in and store them in a DB somewhere?
mircea_popescu: all i'm going to say is that bitbet server holds less than 10 btc at all times.
zebedee_: Sure. Just was curious about the tech of the offline wallet, as I've been dealing with such issues in a personal capacity myself. If you don't want to say anything fair enough, though I don't really see what risk that might expose you to.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29649999 = 2.965 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: not risk per se, just, bitbet is a valuable business publicly owned, its internals may be discussed up to a certain - arbitrary - point.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [-]
zebedee_: OK. What do you do personally if you don't mind my asking?Which client do you use, or do you do your own thing with private keys etc?
mircea_popescu: i have a heavily modified bitcoind
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2964 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is pretty much what i do in general, my blog is a heavily modified wp etc
mircea_popescu: basically my tech ppl pick up some open software and rewrite it.
zebedee_: OK, thanks. I used to use offline electrum but have moved to paper wallets a-la casascius.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you hatching some service ?
zebedee_: No. Writing my own bitcoin stuff in C though, but just for fun and to understand it better.
thestringpuller: zebedee_: do you know any casascius resellers
thestringpuller: shits are hard to find
mircea_popescu: zebedee_ it's how good services are started.
zebedee_: thestringpuller: me, perhaps. What are you looking for? :)
zebedee_: I bought about 30-40 version ones, with the bad hologram. Gave all away apart from 3, when I saw what they were going for :)
zebedee_: And I have more version twos.
zebedee_: Trying to think of devious ways to swap a version 2 for a version 1 with the people I gave them away to :)
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: what are you, an indian giver ?
zebedee_: Not sure what that is. Just thought it was a cool way to introduce btc to people. Only gave them to people who have added value to my life in some way or other.
mircea_popescu: indian giver = person who gives then tries to get it back :D
zebedee_: Ah :)
zebedee_: Anyway, gotta sleep.
IronSalad: query thickasthieves
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0038 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2792 BTC [-]
jurov: thestringpuller, molecular does resell
jurov: but last i heard is out of stock and need wait a month
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.0038 = 0.0912 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.155012 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.155011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.145 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1831 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.14 = 10.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.429 = 4.719 BTC [+]
mod6: ugh disk failures :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00070015 = 5.2511 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181662.0 this actually sounds pretty awful
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0975 BTC [+]
jborkl_: Think how that would have gone for you MP, last month when the bot got raped
jborkl_: and that was a real amount of money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00070789 = 8.2115 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 547 @ 0.0006972 = 0.3814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6741 @ 0.00069452 = 4.6818 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jborkl_ hm how do you mean ?
jborkl_: Well, they can not fufill orders when price crashes- shorting a order $30 - you made good on 21000 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4494 @ 0.00068401 = 3.0739 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >. This is the kind of one-in-a-million occurance that happens when using cutting edge systems like Bitcoin,
kakobrekla: LOL
kakobrekla: >and we're glad it happened to us instead of a normal user
kakobrekla: yet 'normal user' got harmed
kakobrekla: isnt erik with them or mixed smth up?
kakobrekla: oh no thats coinapult
kakobrekla: nvm
mod6: I placed 2 orders on the 9th, one for silver one for gold. I received my silver order by the 15th. My gold order is still in processing. Orders were < 2 BTC each. I was pretty happy with receving my silver order so I gave them a rating of 2.
mod6: So far I haven't had any issues or heard the anything like the guy on btctalk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.14002 = 25.0804 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jborkl_ ah i see what you mean.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla afaik erik was with bitpay team but they parted amicably
mircea_popescu: and now is focusing on coinapult which is not related to coinabul.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0912 = 2.1824 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.09 = 3.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.09 = 4.36 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: myeah
kakobrekla: i mixed cinabul and coinapult
kakobrekla: cina = coina
mod6: i guess i have scammer ptsd from all of this bitcoin stuff. There have been some ugly public fights about stuff in the past with them. But I've been talkin to coingenuity for a long time on irc and looking at the coinabul site a lot but never made a purchse.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.0701 = 5.3505 BTC [-]
mod6: I figured it was worth a try to see how it goes. So far, I'm satisfied with the service. Will let you guys know how it ends up.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.07 = 5.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [-]
pgp: erik was with bitinstant, not bitpay, afaik...
mircea_popescu: scammer ptsd lol
mircea_popescu: nice way of putting it
mircea_popescu: pgp o fuck yes i confused them. bitinstant it was.
mircea_popescu: coinpeople bitplease stopcoin bitusing coinames bitfor everycointhing youbit coindo omfbitgod!!
mod6: lol
wences: lol
pgp: lol
Scrat: bit_chslap
pgp: good one
mod6: i seriously do... i've had to navigate through all of these scams since the old days. i only got scammed, so far, by tor-wallet which was idiot to use anyway. Lost like 5 BTC on them.
mod6: i basically just end up hording btc since or sending them to use on MPEx since the trust level with just about everything else in this space is too great to bear.
pgp: trust is hard won in the bitcoin arena...
kakobrekla: nah, all you need is a ltd really
kakobrekla: just ask stslimited
kakobrekla: oh whered he go now
mircea_popescu: ok this goes to twitter too
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i imagine he's going to show us all how stoopid we really are
mircea_popescu: and how the 500th iteration of a failed idea is going to yield results simply because he doesn't know of the other 499
kakobrekla: i got sunburned from so much light exposure in last few days, just noticed im semi roasted.
kakobrekla: gotta calm the skin with lcd backlight.
kakobrekla: anyway,
kakobrekla: the guy say
kakobrekla: >If you want to be a defacto regulatory, at least come up with sensible regulations.
kakobrekla: maybe MJR_ can tell him "no skateboards"
mircea_popescu: de facto regulatory my foot.
mircea_popescu: this is like "you must read" being regulation.
kakobrekla: im thinking now, publishing best practices like that would only make scamzors a bit harder to detect
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla timisoara > california for sun
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0603 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0602 = 2.1204 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.0601 = 16.9616 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.06 = 4.24 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla im not sure things work that way. good scamzors are hard to detect anyway. bad ones are bad anyway
kakobrekla: ah but i heard baroquesque paleness is comming back in fashion
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2965 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "At any rate, I would like to humbly solicit the best and brightest minds of our generation to consider this problem"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/i-have-a-problem-which-i-dont-know-how-to-resolve-so-do-you/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^
jcpham: don't see the problem
mircea_popescu: well that's why
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23198 @ 0.00068402 = 15.8679 BTC [+]
jcpham: so we form a non-profit for dooglas
jcpham: and pay him from that?
jcpham: we not including me
mircea_popescu: then including who ?
mircea_popescu: any guy who figures he can somehow elbow people into sending donations which he can then uyse as working capital for some other venture ?
mircea_popescu: bs model, even more immoral than the problem.
jcpham: those who see value in his work should dnoate or contribute to an organization that pays him
jcpham: like a lobbyist
jcpham: he work isn't lobbied for to your liking
mircea_popescu: so then those with better marketing skills will get paid
jcpham: i see the problem. but the irl solution is just as immoral
mircea_popescu: and people doing useful shit will just get trhe added insult.
mircea_popescu: much like copyrigh works currently.
mircea_popescu: jcpham indeed. article even says that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4263 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42620002 = 0.8524 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.426 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42520001 = 2.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4252 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42511001 = 2.1256 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 46 @ 0.42511 = 19.5551 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.2965 = 6.8195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.299 = 0.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.3 = 3.9 BTC [+]
jcpham: sticky.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.3297 = 3.9564 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32979998 = 3.298 BTC [+]
jcpham: very sticky indeed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.34 = 2.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.34 = 4.08 BTC [+]
jcpham: keep this in mind, if you will
jcpham: he work that dooglas does, does it involve his opinions or is he simply formulating data
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: jcpham he's not really giving any opinion at all, just data processing atm.
jcpham: if you pay him for opinion it is one thing, but paying for reporting is another
mircea_popescu: but he has designed the entire process.
jcpham: he's designed a report
jcpham: which has value
jcpham: if he were providing a forecast or something i think it's a lot more questionable that paying for a data report
mircea_popescu: suppose he makes a mistake in a future version
mircea_popescu: which statistically speaking is guaranteed.
jcpham: well if we're talking about compensation, I wouldn't suggest paying for bad data...
jcpham: but ye. he fudges something
jcpham: what's the damage?
mircea_popescu: well i dunno, forum full of ppl conspiracytheorizing
jcpham: i can see that but like i said, what do you value his data or his opinions
jcpham: the conspiracy would stem from the two of you combining your opinions
jcpham: not the actual data
mircea_popescu: maybe that line is not always easy to draw.
jcpham: i agree
jcpham: but in your head it should be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [-]
jcpham: maybe not to everyone else
jcpham: but his data could game you if you don't have your own fact-checkers
mircea_popescu: right.
orkaa: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u1a6b/
orkaa: haha
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: tho the argument is kinda misplaced. caucasian !=== white.
orkaa: let me check the wiki page :)
orkaa: Historically, the term was used for many people from these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone.
orkaa: hmpf.
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: this is like egypt. classically egyptians were tall, thin nosed, fair haired people.
MJR_: ;;NEXT
gribble: \*AWAY UNTIL April 28\* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds ago
mircea_popescu: current day egyptians are turkish stock (short, stocky, black curly hair)
mircea_popescu: etc.
orkaa: yeah, but anyway
orkaa: guys were american citizens anyway
orkaa: shouldn't matter where they came from
MJR_: we aren't all american citizens here...(i am, not that it matters)
mircea_popescu: orkaa americans are racist in their own peculiar ways.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, it matters sometime.
MJR_: netizen will be more important
MJR_: than citizen
orkaa: internet won't be able to cure our cancer when we're 70
orkaa: hehe
orkaa: so we either get insanely rich by then
orkaa: or we live in the right country
kakobrekla: just print a new lung whats the big deal
mircea_popescu: scumbag kakobrekla : prints you a new lung. you had pancreatic cancer.
kakobrekla: :D
orkaa: mircea_popescu, at least he'd be fair, everyone gets the same deal
orkaa: :))
joecool: those laser printers = lung cancer
joecool: you think that's a fresh smell? that's the toner permeating your lung tissue
joecool: better to smoke than work in office
kakobrekla: yeah it does smell nice!
kakobrekla: cough cough
joecool: kakobrekla: go hardcore, do lines of different colored toner
kakobrekla: colors are more powerful?
kakobrekla: i only have b/w
kakobrekla: though it doesnt prit white!
kakobrekla: print
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183080.msg1913245#msg1913245
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1489 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: lol
joecool: mircea_popescu: romania have blackfolk?
MJR_: i think they play basketball for the local team...that is not a joke
mircea_popescu: joecool there's a bunch of peeps from africa come to study, there's also a strong gypsy minority.
mircea_popescu: in general actually black people are rare enough that banging a black chick is a sort of personal trophy for any male
mircea_popescu: i imagine they get a pretty sweet self confidence boost by visiting lol
joecool: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
joecool: yeah never did that, its bad enough being at a bar and having a giant black ass jackhammer you in the crotch
joecool: (just sayin)
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8658940855a91fd41ff34ec5e2af5634fb5c544400a2488917640e7c
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
joecool: but this is the US, black people in canada are pretty rare and i've never seen a giant one there
mircea_popescu: ;;rate dooglus 2 Does useful things.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user dooglus has been recorded.
orkaa: in slovenia we elected the first black mayor ever
orkaa: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11616879
joecool: truffles: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2009/09/jimma-with-jackhammer.jpg
joecool: truffles: nah it's more like a box truck backing up repeatedly into you
joecool: i guess
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1486 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1488 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.31057, Best ask: 125.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68942, Last trade: 126.00001, 24 hour volume: 66759.35870641, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.13301
mircea_popescu: heh this stability.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.42511 = 1.7004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1678 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1679 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.176 = 2.352 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.17686 = 2.3537 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 190 @ 0.00349995 = 0.665 BTC [+]
Namworld: Well as much as being at that price for about 2 days can be called stability
mircea_popescu: almost 3!
kakobrekla: is more stable than gold
kakobrekla: yarly
pgp: 24h volume on gox is a only 68k
Namworld: eheh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12706 @ 0.00068401 = 8.691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00068326 = 11.4446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14452 @ 0.00067796 = 9.7979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5171 @ 0.00067618 = 3.4965 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00003, Best ask: 125.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 125.00003, 24 hour volume: 64124.31164192, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.08643
thestringpuller: wow
thestringpuller: volume cut in half
pgp: yep... so I would be hesitate to call "all clear" on price stability...
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 35 @ 0.00221 = 0.0774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1768 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: vol is inline with what it was before the pop or poop, whatever you wanna call it
kakobrekla: not impying anything just observation
pgp: true, but with so many new accounts at gox, seems very light to me...
kakobrekla: the line is getting longer but the news are calming, are they de-amling users?
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.19989 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.002 = 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000693 = 0.0347 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00368 = 0.0405 BTC [+]
TheMonarchTx: all the new accounts were for speculation
TheMonarchTx: so once the bubble popped it's not surprising that the new accounts don't result in increased volume