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ave1: I will update the directory names as this is now confusing
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814099 <- hm, at least the one asciilifeform obtained did not run on my rockchip (arm arch) so I might need to look deeper into this as to why it didn't; at any rate: mind adding to your post the obtained gnat binaries so I try with them directly from you and then report what fails if anything? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i have the permalink structure as /index.php/year/month/day , but when i switch it over to /year/month/day it 404's
ben_vulpes: unpleasant to run an estimate that comes out kind of marginal and watch hopesndreams go up in smoke as reality sets in
ben_vulpes: i'd rather see the price estimate go down as i tighten numerical accuracy than up; i've no desire to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i see the ROC-RK3328-CC at ~40 to maybe as high as 55 depending on quantity. 100 in one batch should be about 4000 realistically. ☟︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: paying buyers, as they come
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 14:56 asciilifeform: esp given as the fact that the project has cost asciilifeform a good % of his btc and the bulk of his usd
mircea_popescu: also known as "united states economy".
mircea_popescu: it takes a dose of imbecillity on the level of such displayed in fargo, to use credit card as a means of payment.
asciilifeform: ( at one time i dismissed this as a laborious/rare scam, until met several people who ended up in it )
mircea_popescu: well sure as fuck not with a card lol. unless i suppose the occasional "platinum iridium black iridiscent" cuck
mircea_popescu solidly despises anyone accepting credit cards as means of payment. they're the modern day equivalent of medieval pub wenches, there to have children of unknown paternity each year.
mircea_popescu: anyway, amazon also sells larger items, such as electric equipment, boats, w/e. how the fuck they do that via visa is anyone's guess.
trinque is willing to buy btc via pizarro again, as he has already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this is fine for you neh, talk to rc suppliers, qwho are all in china, until one wants to sell 96 pcs on wire. this way you know who to talk to about ~other~ pieces also later on, as i fucking doubt anyone only sells rc on amazon yes ?
asciilifeform: lobbes: it does. doesn't do anything for wires tho. and i looked in the docs, word 'wire' is only mentioned in re third-party sellers on lulazon being able to accept them ( on own power ) as payment
mircea_popescu: you think amazon doesn't have exactly the same problems as pizarro ?
mircea_popescu: most people kinda discover this when kids reach school age -- while no such thing as perfect school... nevertheless, gotta send them somewhere!
mircea_popescu: anyways -- something is better than nothing ; i'm not insisting on the specific someting, merely provided by means of example. as long as there's something.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-08 05:10 BingoBoingo: As far as anyone knows localbitcoins is 3 Belgians and a 5Is leak.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-28 07:42 mircea_popescu: In Bitcoin this responsibility is based not in law, but fact. LocalBitcoins chose to fart on their plates and some of their weaker customers who trusted them are now ill. It doesn't matter where what was served was contaminated, but that LocalBitcoins served poison. Yes the consumers ought to have known better, but in the future knowing better means escewing a venue that sells turds as sausages on the virtue of both be
mircea_popescu: but in general, you can't leave this as a dangling pointer. it's a significant threat, gotta be defended in depth.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: unless you found and fixed ave1's mistake, you will have same eggogy arm64 gnat as i do
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813816 <- rounding this up: tried it and yes, as expected, arm indeed but can't really use it since no musl ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is fine, so long as it is understood that it is not necessarily 'cleaner' than adacore's
mircea_popescu: we prolly want to hold the complete set as a sort of standard somewhere anyway.
diana_coman: apparently my local-gentoo-for-testing is still borked somewhere in some gcc version as it turns out it had died with ..cannot create executables (although gcc is set to 4.9 etc but this is an experimental box so I'll have to sort it out)
mircea_popescu: anyway, re other lulz, i can't imagine anyone can possibly regard "child pornography charges" / "sexual assault charges" etc brought by the criminal org as anything than shameful fabrications.
asciilifeform: '...when he left the CIA in 2016, suspicion fell upon him as “the only one to have recently departed [the CIA engineering group] on poor terms' << lol!!
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 12:35 asciilifeform: it strikes me as archaetypical wankage
ave1: same as last time, ADA_OBJECTS_PATH and ADA_INCLUDE_PATH need to be *not* set. I can add the resetting of these variables to the script, but unsetting a variable is not something I usually do in a script.
mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: no this is incorrect. i am fighting a fire elsewhere right now, will be back as soon as i can.
mircea_popescu: whale's just looking for protein. how the protein subjectively sees itself as packaged, "krill", "rabbit"... frankly none of the whale's problem.
mircea_popescu: but you didn't do this in a useful way ; because there's, for instance, no way for your friends (such as, say, you from the future) to reference it! or for the op to see anything.
mircea_popescu: the problem as far as i discern it is, "not only there's no conversation going, but the mutism threatens to entrench itself as a 'way to be', and it's not sustainable". when's the last time pizarro talked to anyone ? gotta talk to people, somehow, somewhere. silence is a first approximation of death.
mircea_popescu: i said it once, you know. aanyway : the original idea (get >=300 rockchips there, in a dozen+ Us) was trashed by practical considerations (as alf pointed out, he can't carry 12 us in one go) ; but it'd have required refinancing because you simply did not have enough money to pay for it.
asciilifeform: esp given as the fact that the project has cost asciilifeform a good % of his btc and the bulk of his usd
mod6: I suspected this as well.
mircea_popescu: but you will have hell on wheel in your hands trying to get more money as a palliative solution to "i don't feel like building sales today". ☟︎
mod6: Such as me? Does someone pay for my bonds?
mod6: I dont even think that he really wants to use it specifically either, as, again, mod6 is not accountant.
mircea_popescu: hey, you get a free db with the file system, i never was arsed to do any better on my reports. not that i'm proposing my laziness as the model for anyone else nor that i think the bikeshedding discussion needs to continue, now extented into a theoretical comparison of the merits and dismerits of postgress and implicit-fs-db.
mod6: I've said this as recently as last week.
mod6: So. I created this database back in March to help track inventory, payments, customer accounts, etc. This all to help ben_vulpes save time when doing reporting. Which, as I understand is taking him a lot of time each month.
mircea_popescu: do you have as much as an active account on a webmaster forum even ?
mircea_popescu: you find yourself in the unique position of a start-up running out of runway that doesn't have AS MUCH AS A LANDING PAGE. suppose i wanted to send people over ; where the everloving fuck do i even send them ?
asciilifeform: it strikes me as archaetypical wankage
asciilifeform: i must confess that i agree with mircea_popescu : the postgres db thing is neither here nor there, and in fact harmful, i would like to be able to run ben_vulpes's calculations as before , using his lisp proggies, without having to fuck with a db snapshot, wtf srsly
ben_vulpes: i don't think it useless nothing as it will snip significant time off report generation. the pressure from the board is to forge forward with the rockchips, but if there's change to be eked from the shared hosting i should capture that as well, so thanks for the prodding.
mircea_popescu: are you burning time on any random useless nothing you can think of, just as long as it's not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808145 ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: whole item is about as anti-modern as it gets. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (english) Moreover, every alteration that takes place in a human body - for example, a state of health or a state of sickness - can be brought down to a question of natural causes, as Aristotle has shown in his 7th book of Physics. And the greatest of these is the influence of the stars. But the devils cannot interfere with the stars. This is the opinion of Dionysius in his epistle to S. Polycarp. For this alone God can do. T
asciilifeform: tho i read it as in application to 'they turn men into birds, and birds into men' etc
mircea_popescu: it's like thinking you were "targetted" for a street mugging. yes, you were, guess by what ? you were targetted as one of the schmucks who imagines they can be targetted by street muggings.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, same thing fucked yehzov as the ligthning fucked tree. what, you think the clouds aim ?!
asciilifeform: i suppose if you're mircea_popescu , you can describe the problem of folx for whom bank acct being zeroed, blacklisting from employment, declared outlaw, as 'imaginary'.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 22:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good thread, and notes, but the central q is still unresolved in my head -- argument is that 'they should have left mit and built the machine, in a garage, in zimbabwe ( so as to avoid paying license fee )' ? or 'should have built it without having ever been at mit' ? or which
asciilifeform: and as for the set of 'lord kelvin' ('i was born into money AND i like to experiment') : was ~null set. at least as evidenced by the results.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good thread, and notes, but the central q is still unresolved in my head -- argument is that 'they should have left mit and built the machine, in a garage, in zimbabwe ( so as to avoid paying license fee )' ? or 'should have built it without having ever been at mit' ? or which ☟︎
BingoBoingo: The papers where they asked you for the ID and such? Whose name was on the package as the recipient, etc...
a111: Logged on 2014-09-26 18:07 asciilifeform: 'to take but one simple example: suppose you thought of the new millennium when you wrote your application back in 1972 -- not only wouldn't you be invited to the party, those who knew you had done it right from the start and who probably laughed at you at the time would positively hate you now, and they sure as hell wouldn't tell people about you. and the more stupid they are, the more important it would be to
asciilifeform: rather. and not as if they weren't ~explicitly~ warned 5y ago.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 13:30 asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!'
mircea_popescu: (and no, the dream of "soviet integration" is moscow-only. the russians were tribes, with the georgians about as russian as the small rus')
asciilifeform: but, observe, not as result of any unified front with english. ( not that such a thing can even be drawn in this picture, there was no unified 'indian nation' nor a stalin, to make any unified front with anyone. )
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that many of these saw the english as 'yet another tribe' to make/break alliances with
mircea_popescu: (and about half the general staff knew or suspected as much, too)
asciilifeform: imho to write off germany as 'obviously bit more than it could chew, on day 1' also ahistorical.
asciilifeform: must note, that everybody who stands up and tries to build something, or colonize a continent, or do pretty much anything substantial, is 'rebelling against reality'. it only gets counted as 'eh, he went against The Way World Worx'(tm)(r) if he fails.
asciilifeform: there's a common set of jokes from su, q: 'if only we let germany win, we'd be drinking bavarian! riding in mercedes!' a: '... yes, ride in mercedes. but -- as the leather seat.' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, allergy is always unfortunate. for instance item such as http://trilema.com/2011/voi-ce-ati-facut-in-viata-asta-ba/#selection-37.0-41.102 can't possibly be comprehended without a comprehensive read of the fellow in question (emil cioran).
asciilifeform: so just as readily 2x.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc good % of road casualties was pedestrian ( just as everywhere and even today )
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, driving casualties existed in the 80s among warsaw pact signatories ; and yes "speed unadjusted to driving conditions" was universally blamed.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!' << Apparently @hanno has a take on this too that sums to the rest of the party line "who could be using this with hygeine?"
asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'And what, then, is to be thought of those witches who in this way sometimes collect male organs in great numbers, as many as twenty or thirty members together, and put them in a bird's nest, or shut them up in a box, where they move themselves like living members, and eat oats and corn, as has been seen by many and is a matter of common report? It is to be said that it is all done by devil's work and illusion, for the senses of thos
mircea_popescu: "Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked."
mircea_popescu: (there was actually the mf global issue right in between there, as an intermediate stage)
asciilifeform: rright. nobody promised that the constraint mechanism would be same as in venice or king leopold's belgium. today it is in the turket vs vapour usd divide
mircea_popescu: understand, mom will make paper copies of rifles for kiddy for only just as long as the soldiers pass in the street. once they're gone, once the immediate, obvious stimulus ceases, there's other things to do, so why don't you go make your bed.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-13 16:14 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812861 << observe how ~all~ farming in usa, was put under 'soft kolhoz' by fdr ( and at exactly same time, and for same reasons, as in old su into 'proper' kolhoz) and nobody alive today remembers any other kind of farming
mircea_popescu: might as well redrop the orig source for archival http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/42/wiles.php
asciilifeform: or as in '6 mo go by, but still dun feel like any'
asciilifeform: completely ? as in, it does 0 ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes, it doesn't work as well as it works for say ecstasy.
lobbes: asciilifeform: I posed the same "why not take tolerance break" q to them as well. They claim "doesn't work" but I suspect they simply didn't wait long enough
mircea_popescu: interviewed afterwards, as to how did he do it ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, let me simplify this for you : pot smokers are socialist. if their brain worked, pot'd be more of a concern, but as it is...
mircea_popescu: in this sense, pot is as much a performance drug as meth is for trucker.
mircea_popescu: as far as the zeks are concerned, their performance is purely performative : they're employed at the task of "being americans", so the chinese can take pictures of authentic.
mircea_popescu: now FRUIT alcohol, ie, the $200 bottle of wine, THAT exists. but it's also so finnicky to actually make as to justify the price.
mircea_popescu: the $200 bottle of whiskey is a product of the EXACT same process as "i have a bf, why would i be your slave" patriotism. there is no whiskey extant today, ever existent in history or ever to be devises worth more than $2 a galon. for the very simple and strictly unassailable reason that grain alcohol is one step above wood alcohol, and approximately equal to gasoline.
asciilifeform: old crop of lizards preferred the drunken man; perhaps new crop -- prefers the 'pothead' as the ideal 'new sov^H^H^H^american man'..
BingoBoingo: Might be related to the strong non-polarity of stuff they want as a focus. Could be part kitchen lab, could be the butane has a favorable bias as a solvent.