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mp_en_viaje: true, then I can conclude that Akintola was always working with Zik and Bello to frustrate Awo's ambition."
mp_en_viaje: i dunno who the fuck else can be this fucking batshit. "applying to the bank
mp_en_viaje: i expect the form doesn't read anything like "fucker, i'm not digging up your underwater mortgage for you, get the fuck off that horse"
asciilifeform: i.e. 'cold reading' ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-21 22:48 asciilifeform: dunno that i've met such a marvel, who could do this irl. but will believe.
asciilifeform would've asked 'why do they need to pay money and come to club to sit an' watch' but i recall mp_en_viaje http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914729 earlier ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: more affordable that way. and, in limine, i don't even see much wrong with it -- so some people who aren't f1 pilots gather around and rent the old cars for a few hours a few times an hour, spin them in an old salt flats. something wrong with this ?
asciilifeform: ( i assumed that in irc he was working 5-6 marks at same time, hence the flavour )
asciilifeform: dunno that i've met such a marvel, who could do this irl. but will believe. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-03-18 02:20 ninjashogun: I'm Robert, as I mentioned. I hadn't talked to you guys before.
mp_en_viaje: just because i go to budapest's finest and, among people taking one girl out for one cup of coffee, have the stephania steak / lamb in blueberries etc served TWICE, for my pair o fgirls....
asciilifeform: hrm i suppose, mp_en_viaje in phototour posted a price tag, fiddyeurobux for a mp_en_viaje-grade breakfast, notbad
mp_en_viaje: i suppose it's possible.
asciilifeform: interesting. i had him pegged firmly as a classic ameritard
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: nao i'm curious -- is hungary some sorta elephant graveyard where these go to die..?
asciilifeform: i expect he shines shoes nao or wat.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno, nicole found.
trinque: I'll implement this, and also see about a proper handler-case for shutting down gracefully and restarting
asciilifeform: i had this in a robotism thing where coupla dozen indep. threads where each ran separate xyz motor etc
asciilifeform: this is supposing you dun have a working one already ( gotta have the mutex, or lines end up munged, hence why i wrote this )
trinque: I'm going to catch all errors and have the thing log and restart, yes.
asciilifeform: trinque: back in the day i had catch-all condition handlers in main loop of thread, that shat to verbose logger
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in "holy shit i kick so much ass" , http://trilema.com/2014/natural-law-and-the-problem-of-definitions/
diana_coman: re soy in salami + oils of all descriptions, I have this unforgettable experience of eating at one point some of those "salami" slices that ended up fried by mistake in... home-made daffodil syrup because it was actually looking more like oil than the oil and, well, mistaken bottle!
mp_en_viaje: "i know there must be a person somewhere in this person-shaped hole in the air"
asciilifeform: i knew a fella who could not. i.e. could not be in same hallway with opened can. cuz allergic to cockroach...
a111: Logged on 2019-05-20 14:51 asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje is right, and even the 'ai beautifier' thing is redundant, all the machine needs to do is to work like the mirror in brothers grimm, whisper 'you are the fairest of them all' to the sow, will suffice.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914738 << gotta whisper ~convincingly~, though, is the thing. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913304 is a process, "you are great and important and special" "how do i know ?" "because we went to trouble of making 50 types of sausage and printing this leaflet to let you know" "ah ok then" ☝︎☝︎
diana_coman: funnily enough I got the impression that ~nobody actually likes the ending (whatever it is, I have no idea re the whole "film")
asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje is right, and even the 'ai beautifier' thing is redundant, all the machine needs to do is to work like the mirror in brothers grimm, whisper 'you are the fairest of them all' to the sow, will suffice. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i guess they built one that worx in 'reverse gear' nao...
diana_coman: myeah, I can see it; "ai and science sez it".
diana_coman: I thought those mirrors/apps/whatevs were about showing how makeup/whatever would look like on the looker's face i.e. with a camera/pic taken not on model; anyways, supposedly if the "could have" was enough, everyone has it, what's to say they could not have gotten whatever at any time.
whaack: trinque: i can't say i fully grok the advice, perhaps in part because i can't readily read the linked manual, and bc the advice seems to suggest staying in reich, which directly contradicts the usual guidance given here
asciilifeform: trinque: g_l , i suspect, is properly dead ( never found a terrydavis-style obit, no, but he did leave off shithubing which prolly is unlikely for him if were still alive.. )
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914643 << indeed, I encourage whaack et al to do the fucking, and not simply skip to the imitating having fucked, lest they entirely waste youth. ☝︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914620 << it makes perfect sense, and I agree with the approach ☝︎
trinque: alrighty, I'll investigate next time it happens.
trinque: I'm going to quickly restart deedbot in a repl session, so next time this hang occurs I can fiddle with the thing live.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914669 << i suppose, not strictly true. rennet ftw. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 07:48 mp_en_viaje: in which context, the way http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914461 rather reads to me is the direct converse, "most idiots wallow in their filth". this is even true, but i happen to be a zealot in the following sense : i do not admit any sort of proof can ever be brought so as to show the bad preferable to the good.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914634 << in same vein, i think, as http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658461 thrd ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: urei și a tutulor științelor, va pierde prea curînd și primatul muzical, singura glorie ce i-a mai rămas și care nu i s-a contestat pînă acum de nici o națiune." << pop music duscussed cca1840s.
mp_en_viaje: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/4f/59/3d4f5963bb3a3d01c7990d9f7a794392.jpg << fucking obviously enough
spyked: mp_en_viaje, should take less than that, giving myself time to work through potential unexpected issues, e.g. it's been a while since last time I used hunchentoot, need to reload it in head.
mp_en_viaje: moreover, it's an important rite of passage, it's something everyone should do, i have little faith in the born-impotent, people who never ran catabolic processes to a tidy profit, let alone know, relaxedly and from ample experience, that they always could.
mp_en_viaje: but this is a very personal thing -- i don't begrudge anyone left the interest his interest ; i'll even read the stories of faits d'armes, just because i'm too old to get it up anymore dun mean impotence is desirable now or some shit. fuck that world sideways, take all its money, by all means.
mp_en_viaje: ugly whore in every hole so many times so many ways i'm utterly done ?
mp_en_viaje: i personally can't be arsed to extract money out of the decay of outside world. this is purely personal -- ive been doing it for a long time, marginal utility of more money for me personally is 0, intellectual curiosity left is nil, how shall this be best put ? fucked that
mp_en_viaje: stated by me, it sounds like a "no brainer", but it is in fact zealotry like any other : obviously "as a matter of definition" the good is better than the bad hurr durr ; the hidden coda is that i also hold these to be ~knowable~. suddenly, it's not so directly obvious.
mp_en_viaje: in which context, the way http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914461 rather reads to me is the direct converse, "most idiots wallow in their filth". this is even true, but i happen to be a zealot in the following sense : i do not admit any sort of proof can ever be brought so as to show the bad preferable to the good. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: and the author, who traded his work in for this exact usage (and, i'm pretty convinced, made it exactly to this spec in the first place), is "successful writer" -- the part that's a writer not successful and the part that's successful, not a writer.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 21:26 mp_en_viaje: i dunno, "being plausibly deniable & unobvious" i guess.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 00:23 asciilifeform: trinque: i once attended a gathering of 'writers'. one unusually introspective type uttered phrase 'do you all understand that we're competing for each other's beer money'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 23:18 trinque: I could e.g. make deedbot wallet exorbitant for friends, and all this would gain me is beer money and fewer friends.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 22:30 asciilifeform: i imagine all of the holes look quite similar from mp_en_viaje's olympus tho -- sorta like stones on the ground, mountains to ant, all look ~same from man's height
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 17:18 mircea_popescu: why the fuck didn't i think of that.
asciilifeform: also i entirely believe mp_en_viaje that it dun work in markets. predictable, so loses.
asciilifeform: i.e. working strat in game theor. context
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: helps to remember that i've never seen actual troo money, except in microscopic quantities, and even this only since btc introduced
asciilifeform: ( orig. iirc persia, 'to idiot, i gave an axe, so he would cut some wood; but went instead to mosque, the door he smashed best as he could' )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'wtf, i solved apparent given equation, and this fella goes off re 'cuntlogics'..' != 'slide'
asciilifeform: this is when i admit that i dun think i have with what to disagree with mp_en_viaje
mp_en_viaje: well, broker more than breaks even. so he does have the caragea argument, "i'm trying to steal enough before they steal it back to take off"
mp_en_viaje: i pointed out to you that this is not a valid response, you ~moved on to attacking me~. guess what, wehther i'm rich or poor, happy or unhappy, tall or short, it is STILL not valid to go into a discussion of 1+2 when i point out to you you did something stupid.
mp_en_viaje: i pointed out to you that this is not something thinking man does, you went to argue that 1+1=2.
mp_en_viaje: i was explaining to the inquiring mind how to price a supposed job : take an actual house, see what it costs, see how it figures against the supposed job. the process will illuminate whether it's a real job or a scam job.
asciilifeform: possibly i dun follow the analogy. not pretending, swear.
mp_en_viaje: look at it : " incidentally fwiw the shack asciilifeform lives in , would cost ~2y of his pay to buy. but i ~dun want~ to buy it" === "my toy chopper DOES put MUCH MORE thrust than it weighs, but what of it, i can't ride it"
asciilifeform: i read orig thrd as 'yer gulag dun even cover cost of barrack, they make you pay for barrack' but difficult to argue with 'scam house, scam job, and breathe scam air also', all of it is entirely tru
mp_en_viaje: and you did not say "this is true of my toy chopper also". you said ~exactly the opposite~ : "my toy chopper DOES put MUCH MORE thrust than it weighs, but what of it, i can't ride it".
asciilifeform: 'if rocket puts out less thrust than it weights, it dun go up' 'ok, this is true of my toy chopper also' 'idjit, i was speaking only of my moon lander, plebe'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 22:24 asciilifeform: incidentally fwiw the shack asciilifeform lives in , would cost ~2y of his pay to buy. but i ~dun want~ to buy it, why would i want to buy a decaying cardboard-an'-siding thing.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914454 << talking to you is often enough an exercise in "let's see what this intelligent but illiterate kid deliberately failed to notice in the source material / replaced with constructed story from head". house there linked built ~century ago, brick. specificaly because is not a matter of "what'd it take to buy rabbit-dwelling shoebox in which subjective rabbit lives". it's a matter of what i ☝︎
trinque: I'd love to see a trb ebuild come of this mod6
mod6: Anyway, I'm gonna grab some food here. I'll work on a write up this weekend among other things. o7
mod6: I hope I'm not doing anything redundant really. The Makefiles itself take care of the compilation of Boost/BDB/OpenSSL. The one thing that I still need from the rotor.tar.gz is 'openssl-004-musl-termios.patch'
mod6: I've taken notes, I'll write up something on my blog as soon as I can. Just wanted to share the progress here. Obv. bunch more testing, etc.
asciilifeform: i may be thick, but it is not evident from the patch
mod6: asciilifeform: I changed all of the CC, CXX, LD to point at all of the binaries located in the tarball I extracted from the build of Ave1's GNAT, like this one: /opt/20180924/x86_64-linux-musl-native/bin/gcc
asciilifeform: mod6: i see what you did, but under which gcc got the eggog ??
mod6: That seemed to resolve the problem. Let me do a wotpaste of the vpatch so you can see what I've done.
mod6: So I ended up adding '--disable-shared' to the BDB Makefile portion.
mod6: I ran into some trouble with BDB along the way because of a relocation record. '.rodata.values.2406'
asciilifeform: ( or do i misread ? )
asciilifeform: mod6: this part makes sense. but i'm curious re the apparently redundant piece
mod6: I used diana_coman's vtron build with the same. Pressed the (yet unverified by lord keccak vpatch bundle that I created in January) keccak tree, made the changes in the makefiles, etc. Have a vpatch.
mod6: Evenin'. I've built trb on cuntoo with ave1's 20180924 tools, with rotor only. Quick test shows pulls connects, pulls blocks.
asciilifeform: ( i've met 'fresh off the boat' 'was physicist, now cabbie' emigres, who suffered from this delusion. but ~these~ were not emigres... )
asciilifeform: trinque: i once attended a gathering of 'writers'. one unusually introspective type uttered phrase 'do you all understand that we're competing for each other's beer money' ☟︎
trinque: I could e.g. make deedbot wallet exorbitant for friends, and all this would gain me is beer money and fewer friends. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 20:51 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914423 << i don't get it, what's inclined, bumpy surface gonna do ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914441 << this is good q imho. the only reason i can think of for 'throw dice on flat table', is to avoid 'came to rest sharp edge up', which can introduce 'must either throw again, or pick between numbers by hand ' etc ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i imagine all of the holes look quite similar from mp_en_viaje's olympus tho -- sorta like stones on the ground, mountains to ant, all look ~same from man's height ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914449 << i know a whole platoon of folx , in meatspace, in deeper holes ( e.g. mortgageisms, alimonies, childrenz, 'student loans', drink. ) but there is ~always~ somewhere a deeper hole to be found than whichever . ☝︎
asciilifeform: incidentally fwiw the shack asciilifeform lives in , would cost ~2y of his pay to buy. but i ~dun want~ to buy it, why would i want to buy a decaying cardboard-an'-siding thing. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: whaack: alright ty. I will drop the nyc linkedin plan then << nyc is a terrible place to stay in any case. if you're not making bank on wallstreet, you have no excuse to be there ; and even then, it's an excuse. if you're gonna linkedin, do a basic "what job pays - what single family ~house~ costs to buy in location.". if job doesn't pay over what loan would cost you, it is not a job, whatever they call it.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914423 << i don't get it, what's inclined, bumpy surface gonna do ? ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Ah. Anyways, I know a good hostel, which in Uruguay still means you'll be in a foreign language space most of the time.
whaack: I wasn't implying that I would test drive Uruguay for a year. I would try it for 1-2 months first of course.