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asciilifeform: never heard of such a thing
mircea_popescu: that's not it. it basically was a mechanical device, worked sort-of like the scytale except on a chunk of a clay item
asciilifeform: you might be thinking of 'physically unclonable function' which is a crackpot field
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally do you recall that very ingenious thing that worked essentially as a vinyl record player needle but on a random chunk of clay pot ? ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: from a strategic perspective, that's the spot.
mircea_popescu: fuck that stupid shit. if the computer massaging my 10kb message takes a minute i couldn't care the fuck less - it took me 10 minutes to get all the guns arrayed to make a ml submission.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1394695 << the motives for usg officially releasing a cryptosystem in 2013 can be discerned only by an expert psychiatrist ☝︎
asciilifeform: in correct otp, you ~never~ get a situation where same block -> same output
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Today was dominated by a bunch of these not quite news things.
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 23:48:55; mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking vaguely along the lines of making a b-a call for papers for symm cypher, what would we actually want ? i'm thinking a) block sizes of 1, 4, 16, 64 kbytes. none of that bit-denominated bs, wtf is this, 64 bits. fuck that. b) key size of 64kb fixed. c) bonus points for proved hardness, as-hard-as-x etc d) bonus points for not using just basic arithmetics. fuck this shift-and-xor
punkman: mircea_popescu: stream cypher = particularly braindamaged blockcypher, ie one with a tiny block << vernam can stream
mircea_popescu: but give it a GOOD read aforehand, it's crappy as found in .8
punkman: I remember some mentions of a backport patch for key import
trinque: anybody recommend a way to import a private key to trb?
mircea_popescu: stream cypher = particularly braindamaged blockcypher, ie one with a tiny block/
mircea_popescu: basically, do everything exactly opposite to the "wisdom" of a very inept if deeply self-pompositous field
mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking vaguely along the lines of making a b-a call for papers for symm cypher, what would we actually want ? i'm thinking a) block sizes of 1, 4, 16, 64 kbytes. none of that bit-denominated bs, wtf is this, 64 bits. fuck that. b) key size of 64kb fixed. c) bonus points for proved hardness, as-hard-as-x etc d) bonus points for not using just basic arithmetics. fuck this shift-and-xor hack-and-slash bs, ☟︎☟︎
punkman: http://git.neil.brown.name/?p=wiggle.git;a=blob;f=p.help; hey this guy also likes single letter names, has a "p" program
punkman: I'm thinking any diff replacement should do strictly binary diffs, and only include line-oriented context diff as a visual aid
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> my intent was that the user would include ALL of the leaves he is interested in by using a custom patch dir, and then press to the last. << this is not a bad approach (for dev work). i wouldn't want it in the press-for-deploy, but different story.
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mod6: meanwhile, I'll work on an automated test for this change and work on republishing this fix as a one change deal. will be v99995
mod6: ascii_butugychag: hey, can you take a look at this? i pressed up to the vpatch in the flow before polars then.. manually patched with -F 0, but didn't seem to do anything:
ascii_butugychag: the machine doesn't give a fuck to whom the card belongs
ascii_butugychag: if i dump a credit card into my own 'paypal' input, they will dutifully tally it up and 'income'
ascii_butugychag: what exactly else is a program ?
ascii_butugychag: the result of a 'patch' ever not matching the hash, SHOULD NOT HAPPEN
ascii_butugychag: ~that way~ you will end with a press of the last makes-sense pressing !
ascii_butugychag: my intent was that the user would include ALL of the leaves he is interested in by using a custom patch dir, and then press to the last.
ascii_butugychag: (you could cut into the middle of a leaf set more or less alphabetically)
ascii_butugychag: but in a very primitive way
PeterL: but if I use a leaf, will it include the other leafs?
ascii_butugychag: you can use a non-leaf node as a head
ascii_butugychag: genesis is where a v object comes to exist.
ascii_butugychag: my point was that there is not a special knob, you don't need it, your unix file system is the knob
mircea_popescu: <jurov> and my other question about maintaining A and A' in "mempool" ? << everything is in the mempool al ltime anyway.
ascii_butugychag: place the ones you want in a dir, make sure you have the desired seals, and press
ascii_butugychag: jurov: a correctly-designed vtron - absolutely will
ascii_butugychag: jurov: A and A' are, if dropped in the hopper, equally legit pressings
jurov: does v allow to press both AB and A' from one repository?
jurov: and my other question about maintaining A and A' in "mempool" ?
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, to answer a question that jurov asked a while ago, it is not only possible to use an arbitrary hash function with v, but even, theoretically, to use none at all.
mircea_popescu: really, a properly behaving o shouldn't be a big deal to write neh ?
ascii_butugychag: that it works at all, to our purpose, is a marvel.
ascii_butugychag: we have right now a profoundly braindamaged o
ascii_butugychag: v is simply a mathatron that deals in the basic operation h,s1,o,s2 where s1 and s2 are strings, h is an operation (usually a hash) for recognizing said strings via trapdoor, and o is a transform
mircea_popescu: well this has been a most instructive experience.
ascii_butugychag: at any rate, v really started as a pill against this particular thing
ascii_butugychag: than to a ppm of anything
mircea_popescu: just you know, run a tail on the file. good enough
mircea_popescu: but... so then why bother doing a diff
ascii_butugychag: tries to find a place where the context fits.
mircea_popescu had no idea diff even has a "fuzzy" concept.
ascii_butugychag: i wonder who thought 'fuzzy' diff was a good idea for a default to begin with
mod6: here's a debug snippit
polarbeard: it's a matter of maintaining a personal branch and an official one
mod6: before i re-grind this patch, im gonna look into V a bit while I wait for ascii to give me the green light on the other two reground from lastnight.
mod6: right this is actually a really good test case.
mircea_popescu: but this MIGHT be a bug in v
mod6: and thats even with a full sync of the mirror as it exists up until this very minute.
jurov: but how do I add both A and A' into the repo without renaming?
jurov: imo both A and A' should be kept at leas B' isn't reground too
ascii_butugychag: it is no more immediately decidable than a young chain fork in bitcoin
jurov: is that always decidable? if i have A, which has a child patch B, and author regrinds A into A' which is to be kept?
mircea_popescu: forking as a way of life.
ascii_butugychag: jurov: it's a 'longest chain' sort of thing. see old thread.
ascii_butugychag: a, e.g., shiva.cpp - only patch - will work fine
ascii_butugychag: ty mod6. i'd like to note that in a time of 'fog of war', when some patch is up in the air, it is not necessary to hold off on ~all~ work, but only things which concern the affected subsystems.
mod6: if anyone else is in the middle of creating a patch - maybe hold off a day or so before you submit until I can straighten out the tree & test everything.
mod6: will find out here in a minute
mircea_popescu: anyway, im not doing a patch. im doing v.pl
mod6: you may wanna hold off for a minute
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mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 why is your v perl implementation named v0001.pl on ml instead of a saner v99996 ? << weird? where do you see that?
mircea_popescu: omaigerd jurov is such a gadfly
ascii_butugychag: this is how a patch ought to be.
mircea_popescu: im contemplating signing this to reflect its successful usage to bring up nodes, but should i really sign a file called "v0001.pl" ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 why is your v perl implementation named v0001.pl on ml instead of a saner v99996 ?
mircea_popescu: 3rd's a charm ?
mircea_popescu: want a witness email cc'd ?
mircea_popescu: ok so i am sending an email to btc-dev@therealbitcoin.org with subject line Certify polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc with content as a clearsigned short explanation of what it is, and with two attachments
mircea_popescu: princessnell well for one thing it's a republic and for the other http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-01-2016#1390659 ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: 'diamond age' is prolly closest thing i know to a fictional portrayal of... tmsr
assbot: Who made this ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QYyRcl )
ascii_butugychag: had little gurl, nell, who illicitly found a robotic tutor who gave her puzzles about 'princess nell' and taught her to survive in the Dark Fyootoor (tm)
ben_vulpes: https://medium.com/@hellopicoc/this-black-owned-portland-business-will-disappear-without-your-help-21f9fa195d78#.cywj4lxdv << it's a business! it's a charity! it's some people who failed to invest in their property for decades and now want everyone else to shoulder the burden of bringing their property up to code!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai is this in reference to the tweet referencing a blog post referencing a reddit thinger?
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 13:16:03; *: asciilifeform votes a straight vermin supreme ticket
assbot: A True Church - Scriptural View Of Women ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqIFOd )
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1393896 << http://www.atruechurch.info/women.html >> Although God has in the past placed women in authority over men (e.g. Judges 4:4), and even today the Lord places women in authority over men (e.g. Romans 13:1), this is nonetheless a shameful reality, as Isaiah illustrates. (Isaiah 3:12) ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: i did not sign it, because we have no mechanical provisions for processing such a thing, nor is it a long-term goal
ascii_butugychag: this, if you will, is a 'bridge' meta-patch.
ascii_butugychag: you should get a diff consisting solely of pathnames.
mod6: here's a screenshot of the graph after the fix was applied (locally):
mod6: shiva did expose a defect in v99996 of V (line 420), in one of the graphing subroutines (add_desc_src_files). the rest is fine. locally added simple conditinal check to see if the node is empty seems to have fixed it.
mircea_popescu: that actual items moved in seeming lockstep with this for a while is not really germane.
mircea_popescu: which is how hitler ended up stuck moving divisions on a map
mircea_popescu: anyway : there was a short time in the history of europe (and therefore the world) where the masses figured that they're in power and since they didn't know what else to do, decided to promote entertainers to leadership positions.