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mp_en_viaje: bane of my fucking existence, the leds. twenty years ago i could safely go on greyhound trip around. not anymore -- every two bit blue collar driver thinks the best way to improve his life is add some 10 cent uv leds randomly aroundm.

asciilifeform: funnily enuff i also

mp_en_viaje: anyway, the mutantism is that i apparently see like parrots, ie, well into uv spectrum.

asciilifeform: i could've sworn that mp_en_viaje once said he had mutated blue/green cone or what was it.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 20:08 asciilifeform gently prods mp_en_viaje , the 1 fella i know to have mutant eye

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915233 << i dun see a problem. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: I don't see why they'd do anything other than rebrand and stop paying licenses ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I dunno if the "US sanctions" wank is going to survive 2025

lobbes: As it stands I have two full pages of hand-written notes with various c and apache-stack likbez, and that was just so I could understand up to line 152 of https://github.com/mbattyani/mod_lisp/blob/master/mod_lisp2.c (only 900 or so lines left to eat). I most likely will publish these notes as a blog post once all is said and done ☟︎

lobbes: http://www.thetarpit.org/posts/y05/090-tmsr-work-ii.html#selection-197.31-205.258 << I wager there's a good chance you'll publish a genesis of tbnl/hunchentoot before I eat through mod_lisp, but I agree: as pieces emerge, we can sync up, regrind as needed, etc. ☟︎

asciilifeform: lobbes: i randomly pulled it off the net. at one time i had a lcd with built-in one, but sadly retired it coupla yrs ago

lobbes: asciilifeform: that's a pretty nifty color-blindness simulator. I'ma have to save for later (I work with someone who is colorblind in meatspace; never sure what is infuriating to his eye)

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915203 << this does help, ty. And I guess at the root of it all is http://trilema.com/2013/regarding-money/#selection-107.66-107.411, of which a takeaway may be "don't render yourself lame".. ☝︎

asciilifeform gently prods mp_en_viaje , the 1 fella i know to have mutant eye ☟︎

asciilifeform: if anyone really loathes the given colours, nao is the time to speak, i'd prefer not to change these going forward.

asciilifeform: (i.e. still loox readable on b&w , and nothing 'screamingly' garish imho )

asciilifeform: summary of colours: O(bitness) (i.e. the cheapest) ops are marked in green; super-linear but subquadratic ops (e.g. *, S) -- brown; the most expensive ops (e.g. MX), and ones with potentially 'infinite' cost (e.g. ?) , red; ops which affect control flow ( : , various Q ) are inverted-red ; ops which affect registers -- purple; constants - black; function defs/invocations -- blue/reverseblue respectively. errything else i think self-e

asciilifeform: i look at his site erry coupla months. e.g. curious whether anyone bought his gold-plated fg.

BingoBoingo: I see that he just posted a new poast

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i see a 403.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 19:08 lobbes: Long-story short, I woke up one morning and came to the realization that I have not been saving and am headed towards ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875979; panicked, etc. Then I cooled it for a second and continued reading, came across http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-19#1914702 and realized that me running to xyz without any idea of what I'd *do* is not any better than what I'm doing now.

lobbes: Whether I like it or not, I am currently in a http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-19#1914704 situation. Problem is that while I have been measuring, I have not been stealing enough nor have I set any time horizon for escape. It is now clear to me that I must remedy this before I can really do anything else. ☝︎

lobbes: (i.e. the approach vs flee dilemma of problem solving) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:10 Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform

lobbes: Long-story short, I woke up one morning and came to the realization that I have not been saving and am headed towards ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1875979; panicked, etc. Then I cooled it for a second and continued reading, came across http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-19#1914702 and realized that me running to xyz without any idea of what I'd *do* is not any better than what I'm doing now. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-19#1914718 << I will definitely read, and am still interested in eventually visiting. Though I will say after reading the various threads re:escape from last week I have a lot more clarity on wtf I should be doing in the shorter-term. I may have to wait a bit before a Uruguay trip ☝︎

asciilifeform: variety of offered answers was astonishing. but i dun think i met 1 who was honest and replied 'my hands grow from arse'

asciilifeform: thinking about it, i dun think i ever met what could be described as a thinking fella, who didn't write at least into a desk

asciilifeform: schwartz ? i think he took up... whiskey

asciilifeform: if they're art experts, i'ma have to take mp_en_viaje's word, asciilifeform is not equipped to evaluate 'world class'

mp_en_viaje: i know a bunch.

mp_en_viaje: i'd say which is chance. step 1 of the markov process, even balanced, why not. for all the diff it makes, might as well be.

diana_coman: ultimately everything is chance I suppose so in this sense yes

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i'm saying that the guy who is within the top 1% mathematicians could also have been within the top 0.5-2% historians, dancers or public women, and that what exact words you use don't matter, because much before any substantial skill or craft there's the 5yo's set of choices.

mp_en_viaje: i have like dozen+ articles dealing with the converse strategy, all them fetlife lulz etc, you know. i'm fair and balanced!

mp_en_viaje: no, i meant factually.

diana_coman: I do agree though that past behaviour is very indicative of future behaviour for people in general so in this sense yes, predictive.

diana_coman files this under the "I don't yet know what it is; work in progress."

mp_en_viaje: i am well persuaded it's a matter of chance.

diana_coman: myeah, but that was I thought the starting point of the "differences" precisely that the requirements on the subject's mind are different i.e. that it's not just a matter of overall flexibility of the mind or whatevers but rather some more specific characteristics

asciilifeform: ( there was a fascinating film clip i once saw, where raccoon was shot in the spine, in such a way that only bottom half paralyzed; and he happily attempted to eat own spilled guts. i could not help but remember rms and his 'toe jam'... )

diana_coman: hm, you are basically saying that there is only a... quality/speed of learning of the individual that applies equally to any choice they make i.e. there is no difference more specific than that?

asciilifeform: incidentally the smarts and persistence of raccoon , i suspect , are much overblown. at 1 time i had two traps set next to 1 another, and 4 out of 5 specimens ended up springing ~both~, 1 with each hand

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, the "personality/intelligence" part was to my mind related to *how much better does one get at x strategy if they pick it once vs at y strategy if they pick it once" i.e. sure, everyone gets better at whatever they pick but not at the same rate

mp_en_viaje: i somehow fail to see the problem.

diana_coman: I suppose I don't grok what the equivalent of the heliocentric system is here, precisely.

feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/i-give-you-something-new/ << Trilema -- I give you... Something New!

mp_en_viaje: i dunno it gets mired in anything ; obviously if one uses copernican model to discuss ptolemaic astronomy one will end up with a lot of ptolemaic astronomy discussion. doesn't invalidate the heliocentric system tho.

diana_coman: it seems to me that it all gets mired into the current use of "personality" and "stem" and "introvert" to mean nothing at all/anything that is convenient; essentially I don't think they are what is currently claimed (intelligent -> stem!!! or whatever other nonsense) but I don't think that there is nothing real otherwise, either (rather: I don't know).

mp_en_viaje: i didn't parse that!

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i just mean "comes natural to x".

diana_coman: among other piles of nonsense, I've heard this one too, yess

diana_coman: uhm; why is one un-natural, I don't get it.

diana_coman: quite; part of why I don't get it: the former examtake so it's not like they are actually any more reality-anchored as far as I can see

diana_coman: i.e. this bunch will do as told, this bunch won't do as told? are they manageable or aren't they?

diana_coman: I don't quite grasp this invulnerability divide; to me it looks equally well "doesn't give a damn if gets killed" i.e. not "thinks himself invulnerable" but "thinks himself disposable"

mp_en_viaje: if there is, i don't see how it'd be defined outside of the invulnerability divide.

diana_coman: I suspect there is, but - as usual, I should say - not what it's nowadays "meant" by the terms; pretty much the usual capture-words-and-rend-them-meaningless as with love and everything else; a misnomer at best.

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i did say " there's no such thing as "introvert" or "extrovert"" as my only reference to the terms.

diana_coman: fine but I don't see what that has to do with introvert vs extrovert

mp_en_viaje: i don't define, it's human behaviour, what define.

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915018 -> uhm, how do you define introvert/extrovert? possibly I'm too dumb to be afraid, dunno. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: i'm not, after all, saying whether the invulnerability delusion's reality-adequate or reality-inadequate. like all illusions, it proceeds irrespective of such considerations.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:23 stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1914979 << i am not self-supporting. live with parents, focus on recovery and retraining self.

asciilifeform: i suspect a simpler http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-18#1615386 mechanism ☝︎

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i vaguely suspect that at this point, the other haroldmartins, entirely aware of the yellow dots, have burned their piles

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1914947 << amusingly enough, trilema deals with a commentary flow i'd say about the square of the people trying to solve the problem of dealing with comment flow, and yet i dun have their problems. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: admits gradations. e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/fb/godsurge.png , might appear at nuremberg. martin's pile , went with him to crematorium, and i can't picture how this was surprise to him

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1914979 << i am not self-supporting. live with parents, focus on recovery and retraining self. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i.e. d00d was piling it up to show at nuremberg ? conceivable

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 11:37 stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914400 << yes, tied to the UK. I'm currently looking for python dev work in Cambridge/Suffolk area.

mp_en_viaje: no, apparently i gotta http://trilema.com/2011/cornul-abundentei-sau-ma-rog/ all over again. because nothing improved in a decade

stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: this is not deliberately a spam trap. i had a choice while working: to build an open-access-point to the wider internet, or not to do so. i chose - not.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 11:34 stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914395 << from logs + mocky's "why ada", i understand some of the technical merits of ada. however, my perception of the current job market is that trying to make a living at ada leads directly to a hardware sharashka.

mp_en_viaje: THEN!!! i end up having all of fucking central europe scoured by my mounted slutlegions, which produces "masculan XXL", a german brand.

stjohn_piano_2: ah, wait. so far, none, because i never permitted it.

stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: i did consider both. ultimately, i decided to stay with identity-based commenting rather than take a sift-the-noise approach.

stjohn_piano_2: in future, this will become easier for established identities, as i work out how to automate parts of the process.

stjohn_piano_2: 1) until recently, no comment system existed. it is still experimental and manually driven. i am unsure about its final structure.

stjohn_piano_2: there's several threads here. i'll go through them.

stjohn_piano_2: your comment has been published. i'm pleased that the comment system worked. yours is the first external comment.

stjohn_piano_2: i understand your point. i've thought about this quite a bit.

diana_coman: and note that I would certainly NOT go about providing signed comments wtf

diana_coman: well yes, but think of it: you are effectively making it *hard* for people (with established identities so those you say you do want to hear from) to provide feedback to you on the grounds that you don't want to bother with everyone; i.e. you are effectively unloading your work onto those who may be able to/willing to help you; doesn't seem a winning strategy to me.

stjohn_piano_2: it's certainly public-facing, but i have little interest in interaction with speech that does not come from an established identity of some sort.

diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: but why such high-bar for what is meant as a public-facing i.e. by definition wider-public-interaction thing anyway?

stjohn_piano_2: i add comments manually to the data at present. in future, i may construct an automated system that can accept signed comments.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 13:09 diana_coman: anyway, since I'm not going to jump through those silly hooks now, I'll leave it here: you can message deedbot/any user privately directly, you don't need to join some channel first; and re newcomers, it's usually safer for themselves to join one of the lords' channels first, really (e.g. #asciilifeform, #trinque, #eulora)

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1914934 << aha. yes, for the moment, this is how i can handle comments from people in the forum. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 12:51 diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: re ^ , an OTP challenge is a way to check one's identity; hence, deedbot will not send an OTP in response to !!register but WILL send an OTP in response to ~any other command (technically to any command that is a request of *someone* i.e. that requires an identity)

diana_coman: anyway, since I'm not going to jump through those silly hooks now, I'll leave it here: you can message deedbot/any user privately directly, you don't need to join some channel first; and re newcomers, it's usually safer for themselves to join one of the lords' channels first, really (e.g. #asciilifeform, #trinque, #eulora) ☟︎

diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: re ^ , an OTP challenge is a way to check one's identity; hence, deedbot will not send an OTP in response to !!register but WILL send an OTP in response to ~any other command (technically to any command that is a request of *someone* i.e. that requires an identity) ☟︎

stjohn_piano_2: i logged and summarised my experience of joining the web of trust (probably of interest mostly to noobs): http://edgecase.net/articles/joining_the_web_of_trust

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 22:33 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914441 << this is good q imho. the only reason i can think of for 'throw dice on flat table', is to avoid 'came to rest sharp edge up', which can introduce 'must either throw again, or pick between numbers by hand ' etc

stjohn_piano_2: i'm now trying to restructure myself into a dev in a field in which remote work can become a viable option.

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914408 << yes, exactly. sadly, small business was not the right path. i've observed firsthand the final stages of the integration of small businesses into the gov. the regulatory overhead is enormous and ever-growing. ☝︎

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914400 << yes, tied to the UK. I'm currently looking for python dev work in Cambridge/Suffolk area. ☝︎☟︎

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914395 << from logs + mocky's "why ada", i understand some of the technical merits of ada. however, my perception of the current job market is that trying to make a living at ada leads directly to a hardware sharashka. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 14:30 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914356 << plz don't bother unless you have one lined up already; i will prolly do it with own hands sooner

hanbot: "However, I must add that you have willfully chosen not to incorporate the dynamic nature of polity during the era in discuss."