asciilifeform: (chukchas and many neighbouring tribes had an entire thing where they would lower deer into a swamp, and dig him up months, sometimes years, later, and eat. apparently putrefaction toxins can be 'trained for', from childhood even. rather like strychnine.)

asciilifeform: no doubt

asciilifeform: you will have more luck recycling a rotting deer carcass in the road.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595417 << firefox, if you have not had the misfortune to look at the internals, is quite like other 'open sores' in that it is ~impossible to meaningfully recycle any part of it in 'other' (supposedly they are in fact ~other~, and not minor variations on the original) projects ☝︎

asciilifeform: expand

asciilifeform: as it is, no one who understands the actual purpose of tor could possibly suffer illusions re firefox, or vice-versa

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595397 << the various leprosoria ~could~ have an actual sporting shot! at maintaining successful pretense of independence , if they were to not do this kind of obvious 'we all pull shitpatches from one another' circus ☝︎

asciilifeform: none of these observations disprove a scenario where both are fingerpuppets.

asciilifeform: a 'hello' for mircea_popescu et al.

asciilifeform: either ineptly, or wanted to leak a bit.

asciilifeform: ( not hard to ~release from buffer~ ~simultaneously )

asciilifeform: either that, and/or the cartel hidden block buffer is 2+ long

asciilifeform: ('we switch off if you switch off & share')

asciilifeform: am i the only one who recalls the fanfare re ru supposedly selling s400 rocket system to s.a. ? if true, possibly they also want in on the spoils

asciilifeform: difference (at least afaik, from armchair) is that ru would have to actually fight, but usg would only need to press a few buttons and turn off the (u.s.-made) air defense systems of s.a.

asciilifeform: lulzy.

asciilifeform: e well before then. It might as well be the Americans: they started this shambolic desert kingdom; they might as well be the ones to put it out of its misery.'

asciilifeform: 'If Trump doesn’t crack open the chocolate egg that is Saudi Arabia and run off with the toy inside, then somebody else will. Saudi Arabia’s days are numbered. For now, it is still rich in money, oil, sand and imbeciles, but it is burning through the first two faster and faster. Just wait a decade or so, and the sand and the imbeciles will be all that’s left. Somebody will try to get to them and snatch what’s left of the priz

asciilifeform: (tldr : d00d seems to think that saudi a. will be plundered next.)

asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the dept. of orlols, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/01/how-to-make-america-great-again-with.html >> '...This was the last time the Americans were able to run off with a fantastic amount of other people’s money, giving the US yet another temporary lease on life.'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595391 << quite interesting www -- do you know this d00d? ☝︎

asciilifeform: ✠.

asciilifeform: trinque: mircea_popescu had a thing a while ago about towers, of different heights.

asciilifeform: trinque: iirc he stuffed ecl in there

asciilifeform: trinque: it is why you make the student write, eventually, the compiler

asciilifeform: and student knows asm because started there

asciilifeform: teach c machine as sane people were taught: 'here's some c, here's what compiler emitted , in asm, now say why'

asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu with his cement mixer is just as 'dirty empiricist' as d00d who writes 'while (1) {.......}' without having written a c compiler and ability to explain what {} 'do' rigorously

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-02#1595305 << last iirc, the exact chemical mechanism of cement curing was not fully known ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-02#1595293 << would you prefer ada's 'begin foo' / 'end foo' ? ☝︎

asciilifeform bbl

asciilifeform: (and if you think you can answer how the fuck , e.g., flaps, work, see the von karman parable!)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-02#1595276 << i am now picturing mircea_popescu's 'well-balanced being' asking 'why' of the controls of 'airbus' ☝︎

asciilifeform: (which is separate headache, such as to be left in a desert to die is quite different experience than to be lowered into pit of weevils)

asciilifeform: not c

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-02#1595266 << plox to reread naggum , this and the other pieces were about cpp ☝︎

asciilifeform: from c2

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-02#1595115 << champagne ☝︎

asciilifeform: thing oughta only ~shed~ dependencies, not grow new ones.

asciilifeform: and no, turning python into a trb dependency is not sane.

asciilifeform: but it is the ~reference~.

asciilifeform: and yes the built-in wallet is junk.

asciilifeform: and possibly elsewhere.

asciilifeform: aaand again, later, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-14#1343043 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-01#1595076 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-03#1003700 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform bbl.

asciilifeform: 'not worth bullet'

asciilifeform: perhaps asciilifeform , ben_vulpes , other usaschwitz inmates, left alive as a kind of insult.

asciilifeform: iirc this is in the logz somewhere, and uninspiring

asciilifeform: nobody answered, number belonged to some photography co

asciilifeform: why, i asked then, the clownade, why not just the wagen.

asciilifeform: nono, was land line , asked by name, and in a place where there was no official record of my being inside

asciilifeform: snore

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it was a disconnected phone ringing

asciilifeform: a+++++ ☟︎

asciilifeform finally drank mircea_popescu's bottle

asciilifeform bbl -- meat.

asciilifeform: it was a perlism and i won't miss it.

asciilifeform looks forward to the demolition of koch-pgp.

asciilifeform: trinque: please do inspect mine or any other such key, also good habit.

asciilifeform developed through deliberate effort the habit of 'read whole thing before spewing chunks'

asciilifeform: just scrubbed the expiry, because i am tired of doing this every new year.

asciilifeform: pgpdump -i.

asciilifeform: holy fuck mircea_popescu , SAME MODULUS

asciilifeform: sha512:c3ae6fb22bdb8a60c55d14d04b9b0f5b10b808357df0046bcedaa2305232a5c48f36af48564de6ce55d9b99b0ca56482fc587e96f4d59f9911524bee7e749c04

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc has been updated.

asciilifeform: (same moduli)

asciilifeform: where to put it

asciilifeform: i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i have a refreshed (nonexpir) pubkey as of 5 min ago

asciilifeform: there are now 2 identical (though not, at this moment, synchronized) phuctrons

asciilifeform: (which is done)

asciilifeform: i read the whole thing , to date, while waiting for massive megaturd of phuctor to pump over to this half of the planet so i could rebuild working model of entire thing here in my torture room

asciilifeform: last 3

asciilifeform still boggled over the dog-woman in mircea_popescu's tale

asciilifeform: howthefuck would i know what is meaningful to sheep(le)

asciilifeform: this job needs cutting edge expert zoologist(zoophiliac?)

asciilifeform not about to change professions any time soon

asciilifeform: i'dve told'em 'next time it rains and soaks your undershirt, you should rain and soak ~its~ undershirt right back'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594814 << bernstein's algo does not use a running global product. see his 'finding the smooth parts of integers'. ☝︎

asciilifeform: (dupes ~mods~ in table. which should not be a thing.)

asciilifeform: next step is to find out how they got in.

asciilifeform: update re phuctor: i did finally turn up the dupes.

asciilifeform: (modern crapple is, under the cover, still largely nextstep)

asciilifeform: moar so than winblows, at any rate. 'nextstep' was, at any rate, architected from the ground

asciilifeform: recall the solrodar experiment.

asciilifeform: thing caught on not strictly because crapple et al pushed it, but because genuinely modular. even though it sucks in almost every other respect.

asciilifeform: i dun see this as a necessary hypothesis. i dare say that if i had to write a c compiler, it would end up looking somewhat more like llvm than gcc.

asciilifeform: phf: 'impoverished' os is a plus from this pov

asciilifeform: phf: correct, it does not. whereas win95 proggies typically still run

asciilifeform: noshit 'they knew', all compilers are built on roughly same scheme, just as all airplanes have wings, fuselage, etc

asciilifeform: regardless of whom -- expand on 'they knew'

asciilifeform: sponsored -- yes.

asciilifeform: llvm was not written at or by crapple

asciilifeform: then -- ditched

asciilifeform: crapple stole gcc while it made expedient sense, wholesale, raw

asciilifeform: i dunno that either fit anything at all in head

asciilifeform: but, notably, winblowz!! supports static exe.

asciilifeform: at any rate, i suppose it dun much matter how one links in monkeyland.

asciilifeform: notably the machine from this example is a mac with 100%-working gnat (on gcc 4.xx)

asciilifeform: aha, i recall, phf had a mac experiment