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trinque: I don't think all the reasons for "why do I hate" can be represented usefully as a machine-grokkable header
trinque: I have an easier time seeing the benefit of a single bit of tarnish + description why
asciilifeform: right now i am stuck simply ~refusing to sign~ as a means of expressing disapproval
asciilifeform: and decide that it is a work of evil
asciilifeform: trinque: consider a scenario where i review, e.g., glibc
trinque: why index and machine-process what should be read and considered by a brain?
trinque: a descriptive comment can explain why I signed just fine
trinque: that trends towards either enumerate-all-the-feelings or simply a wad of freeform text
trinque: I'm open to something like that; I've been doing a lot of work on deedbot lately
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ? << This could work -- it's in the vein of the 'BUTTSECKS' flag. Which seems simple enough. And the given topic-'tag' is a decent idea, i.e. 'OOM' or 'Cramer-Shoup' or 'keccak'
asciilifeform: (pops up a spam with 'your browser is infected!111 call this toll free number!11 complete with faux 'bsod' with vague mac theme, etc)
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 13:48:22; shinohai: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntubsd-first-release <<< I think I threw up a little when I read this.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437115 << folks with a crapple box are in for a treat when viewing this link ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "way down deep in the middle of the jungle a hippo humped a manatee and spawned a scary daughter - i know, we'll call her ubuntu!"
mircea_popescu: actually ubuntu sounds like a pretty decent name for the chicks BingoBoingo links.
shinohai: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntubsd-first-release <<< I think I threw up a little when I read this. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They are having a hard time hiding the recycling nowadays
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437065 << usaschwitz contains an africa : vast expanse of martian wasteland ~nobody gives half a shit about. it also contains a westerneurope: buncha decayed overcivilized folk with excess money that 'has to be harvested back from them or hyperinflation comes'. each of these prison zones gets abysmal net pipe for own reason. ☝︎
asciilifeform: a hundy or so gets you a dozen kinds iirc
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 07:43:11; mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ?
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: gribble seems a bit under the weather today
BingoBoingo: Also in the latest qntra the Union flag as ether rag is apparently a srs thing, except they call it the "American" flag
assbot: Woe: Getting Business Internet A Challenge In Heart Of Silicon Valley | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/22rwiGN )
BingoBoingo: lol be praised http://qntra.net/2016/03/woe-getting-business-internet-a-challenge-in-heart-of-silicon-valley/#comment-49211
mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
hanbot: mod6 index idea could work, obvs hinges on whether i manage to organize something more precise/inclusive than a keyword grep'd put out. i'll look at it tomorrow/tues and report back.
zdm: Been reading a lot of loper-os.org posts
asciilifeform: let's try a test: mirceа_popеscu
mircea_popescu: so basically, you're going to dump garbage at me because you have a strange passion for nubbins` ? you imagine this is a way to behave or something ?
nubbins`: but i do suspect on a ~10% probability that he's satoshi
asciilifeform: i did not say he was drooling in a ditch penniless, did i.
nubbins`: vexual once signed a ~1k btc address for me, hey?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: mcafee and vexual are drooling in a ditch, but mircea_popescu throws garbage trucks !
nubbins`: asciilifeform iirc i offered you some a while back but we decided you wouldn't take it
nubbins`: alf is in a weird spot where he obviously feels that mp is hallucinating but doesn't want to press the issue
nubbins`: ^ you didn't put it in a TPS report, in other words
mircea_popescu: there isn't available this "exit by reservation". it's a personal pretense, nothing more.
mircea_popescu: understand how matters of fact work. judge sits down, lets the witness in. witness tells a story. bystanders ask whatever the fuck questions they want. witness answers if he feels like it, and remembers, and has anything to say. at the end of the day, bystanders can as pompously as they wish declare they're not coinvinced. matters not one iota. either better theory is formed, or the thing stands.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and you see a problem with that ?
nubbins`: the noise is my doing by calling mp a scammer? yes, fair enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i asked 'why is miner collusion a necessary hypothesis to explain the bbet reactor melt' i got argumentum ad dirigible.
nubbins`: hey, i walked into a conversation already happening
nubbins`: or was she just reminding them that bullshit has a specific taste?
nubbins`: asciilifeform: did mpoe-pr "give a fuck" about the scammers she skewered on the forums?
nubbins`: 10 words a minute is excited now |0|
nubbins`: but what else do you expect from someone whose only skills are being a loudmouth and losing money
asciilifeform: nubbins`: for a fella who gave his last fuck, you seem pretty excited
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 23:50:19; mircea_popescu: looky, that nonsense isn't going to snivel into factuality just because butthurt. chinese miner conspiracy is a fact, undisputed and accepted as such.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 00:21:18; nubbins`: if i had a satoshi for every time mp said "looky" when he'd lost an argument, i'd be able to donate a tx fee to bitbet
assbot: 6 results for 'looky from:nubbins`' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=looky+from%3Anubbins%60
kakobrekla: if nothing else it brings about a bad set of incentives.
mircea_popescu: looky, that nonsense isn't going to snivel into factuality just because butthurt. chinese miner conspiracy is a fact, undisputed and accepted as such. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 23:21:15; kakobrekla: hanbot to quote you: The k factor comes from the specified nature of the business (ie, BTC business). In order to be able to offer BTC business you must at a minimum be able to correctly and safely handle payments.
nubbins`: altho i guess it's mostly a show for folks that don't go back and read the logs
nubbins`: you need to take a course in basic logic
kakobrekla: or maybe mp can go "i, mp, have through a series of mistakes made a double payment and will now pretend it was a chinese conspiracy, say publicly i did it masochistically but actually bill it sadistically to the company as a made up war expense"
nubbins`: so, no, he didn't turn a situation from that into anything.
nubbins`: that's a fiction
hanbot: nah, take responsibility for the following thing: "i, kakobrekla, turned the situation where the shareholders owed 17 btc and had credit to repay it in the future, into a situation where the shareholders have nothing, and the bettors owe at least 13 btc, if not more. this is the best i could do, hire me and i'll do the same for you."
asciilifeform: ^ a 'gribble'-like animal in ada.
kakobrekla: hanbot to quote you: The k factor comes from the specified nature of the business (ie, BTC business). In order to be able to offer BTC business you must at a minimum be able to correctly and safely handle payments. ☟︎
hanbot: kakobrekla from the outside, all that's seen is you going gotta protect the shareholders!!1 and a week later the shareholders are fucked...and the customers are boiling. not that i expect you to take responsibility rather than talk about it, but you've fucked up.
asciilifeform: programmer has uniquely unpleasant profession, in the sense that even coal miner enters into a kind of numb routine, but with computer you can be gangbanged into a different orifice that you never knew you had, every day
mircea_popescu: have a stern talk with the notion of computing, rather.
asciilifeform: just pointing out, mircea_popescu ought have a stern talk with his supplier.
mircea_popescu: apparently identical is not a thing.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform we discussed various models of bitbet operations, one of mps suggestions was that i hold the btc and flush the deposits over to him occasionally or somesuch which i refused and suggested he gives me a huge list of his address which i will be handing out
assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MVvoFd )
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unfortunately i haven't found a way to truncate this log
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Царь справедливый и тиран. Не одинаковы бывают. Так хлебопашец и кабан. По-разному поля взрыхляют.' << i found in yellowed vintage volume of transl. of persian poetry to ru, as a kid
mircea_popescu: abomination of mistaken history, fuck the consumer with a rusty nail plank.
hanbot: kakobrekla so in the process of protecting the shareholders from a 17 btc bill, you managed to destroy all their holdings and stick the bettors with a 13 btc or w/e it's going to end up. pretty sucky, innit?
asciilifeform: 'i put in a coin in the coke machine and nothing came out.' ' mircea_popescu: let them go to mechanic school, learn to fix machines...'
thestringpuller: it worked just find connecting to ~your~ node for the last month and a half
asciilifeform: (it also results in a nearly useless node because nothing can ever connect to it)
mircea_popescu: it occurs rto me - someone should get google to make googlebot author a collection of jokes.
asciilifeform: i wouldn't dream of using it for a project tho
asciilifeform: looks like a heathen gnumake ?
asciilifeform: eclipse is not a compiler
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between sfortunati and disgratiati.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uneven ? bordered by some concrete margin of no apparent utility than to ensure it turns into a river if it rains ?
assbot: Povestea celor trei imparati smecheri si a celor trei negustori fraieri - fabula in versuri ilustrata on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/25dHZjf )
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which, http://trilema.com/2011/povestea-celor-trei-imparati-smecheri-si-a-celor-trei-negustori-fraieri-fabula-in-versuri-ilustrata/ << about the most insulting to romanian sensibilities thing out there.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 21:09:58; mircea_popescu: anyway. by and large, the "cleanning out corruption" narrative is what happens to a colonized place, ie, after the top leadership was defeated.
mircea_popescu: no wonder and no explanation needed that darwin became such a religious lightning rod. theory of... "evolution". there's no evolution involved in darwinism, per se. a wasp today has "evolved" just as much and for just as long as jane austin "evolved".
mircea_popescu: reading dickens, just as good as having a life. reading age of exploration crud, just as good as having travelled.
deedbot-: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The Brothers Grimsby - http://www.contravex.com/2016/03/20/the-brothers-grimsby/
asciilifeform: but this is a half-truth.
phf: very little thinking is going on, most of so called thinking is integration and regurgitation of past thinking, that trickles from occasional pockets where thinking happened. by the time one integrates that thinking one is disinclined to further think (for one is a ph.d. or whatever at that point). but any question can be grothendieck-ed if you're so inclined, to reveal and remove your systemd's and kdbus's
phf: i have a hunch that this is not a conspiracy of incompetents, but rather an aspect of the whole knowing the unknown in relation to yourhead. i.e. stupid is not obscurantist for your benefit, but for own
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: incidentally, this edges into the definition of 'random', as per the 1,001 threads on subj. specifically, solving a problem ~you already know the solution to~ is O(1) in all cases!111
asciilifeform: this is actually much harder than it appears, because there must also be a proof that the PARTICULAR INSTANCES of the problem you make use of are ~likewise~ of the worst AVERAGE CASE complexity
mircea_popescu: in other news, i had never discussed theology on a blog before. dat republic!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << undisclosed addresses? unprincipled-exception from 'no such thing as taint' ?!! << very principled. "no such thing as taint" means that i do not recognize the concept, or any reasoning that relies on it. it very pointedly does not mean i will behave in such a manner as to protect the taint assumptions of third parties but just the opposite.
asciilifeform: soo it goes in the kbd. luckily ps/2 is very simple to talk in, you can use , e.g., a 16f84
mircea_popescu: THAT was a priority.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:31:18; phf: there's a very vocal minority trying to get it into emacs as a replacement for elisp, you'll have an elisp emulation layer, but you can also have javascript emulation layer!!1
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436666 << elisp , and emacs as a whole , suck donkey balls. it is in many ways a microscopic model of how linux sucks, a turd for which NO replacement is available, so it is kept on life support at all costs . ☝︎
asciilifeform: needs a pill