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mircea_popescu: i like the laser pumping people.

mircea_popescu: ie, not high temperature, cold. but the meaning contemplated in the expression is, i suspect, quite, "+ev, ie cold"

mircea_popescu: i think that's what the "cold" part is trying to suggest.

mircea_popescu: but i know people who put satellites in orbit ; i know no one who made the answer to the tree question.

asciilifeform: i can't personally, with own hands, put a satellite in orbit, either.

mircea_popescu: now, granted, in re the trees, while it stands that you can't do it, i suspect you're right in suspecting it CAN be done.

mircea_popescu: o, it is ? maybe when i'm having a good day.

asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu misunderstood, i have no intention of pretending that the inexpressable distinction does not exist. merely stating that i am not equipped to deal in it.

asciilifeform: actually i have a suitably grim picture of the capacities.

mircea_popescu: so basically this discussion just became 'explain this to me, and if you do i'll just pretend the explanation doesn't exist"

asciilifeform: i can arrange this but the answer will be a few MB long.

mircea_popescu: and i presume "everything" doesn't suit you.

asciilifeform: i'm stuck with expressable.

asciilifeform: remember, i don't deal in inexpressables. or i'd be hanging at the dirigible club with mircea_popescu, and not here in this ditch

asciilifeform: but i was asking, what they do differently.

asciilifeform: actually rms is the most consistently and accurately long-term doom prophet i'm personally aware of.

mircea_popescu: well wtf, i get the same results from my dog. i don't make the dog a strategist. FOR THIS REASON.

kakobrekla: if i had to guess mps argument here; 'shit doesnt know/care about itself bathing in shit, only actual person does'

asciilifeform: but i suspect that mircea_popescu is operating on the 'spoon of shit in barrel of wine' theorem

asciilifeform: rms, as i understand, goes to all kinds of crud ('phreeee palestine!1111') to play at relevancy

mircea_popescu: and i sold them no such license.

mircea_popescu: and i do mean street urchins quite literally, the sort of mostly-nude eastern flesh that'd follow europeans begging for candy, either as a freebie or in trade for butthole.

mircea_popescu: stallman has reduced himself to the position where street urchins are pulling the "i'm paying you, stand up to attention" trick on him

mircea_popescu: anyway, the ridiculousness of form aside, i can readily see the twin point that rms is catastrophically blind and strategically worthless.

asciilifeform: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed ... '

assbot: Part I. Philosopher ... ( http://bit.ly/1Uupylz )

asciilifeform: He can be convinced. Eventually. It took the SC over a year to explain and demonstrate that Java bytecode could not easily be used to subvert the GPL, therefore permitting GCJ to be checked in to the official repository was okay. I'm sure that someday we'll be using C++ in core code. Just not anytime soon.'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see the 'no inclination towards work' thing

asciilifeform: i do not know where it went, but afaik he still lives in a repurposed closet at mit.

asciilifeform: as i recall, the original plan was to use some bsd variant

asciilifeform: so at this point i'm satisfied that rms either 1) does not actually use an x60 machine with 'libreboot' ~~or~~ does not program. ☟︎☟︎☟︎

assbot: Barney - I Love You (Extended Play 15 times back-to-back!!) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RfEi2m )

phf: not to mention that freetype pulls in the whole dodgy freedesktop stack. why do i need 5 different libraries to support arabic ligatures?

phf: his (and mine) pet peve at the time was mandatory freetype (i think that linux's dodgy hinting and antialiasing are worse then running it aliased and at the time i wanted bitmap fonts everywhere)

asciilifeform: or nm, i think this is in the logz.

asciilifeform: because, among other things, i mistakenly blamed openbsd for this.

asciilifeform: i am seriously fucking pissed

phf: i think emacs has dbus support to do fluff like message notification, last time i built it on linux it built without dbus just fine, but i prefer xlib/athena widgets (i know ascii hates them), since i basically disable menu/scrollbar/etc. not sure if maybe gtk widgets now have dbus hardwired

mircea_popescu: i must have misplaced my copy of the agreement.

assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 13:35:07; asciilifeform: 'Do I really have to be forced to use accessibility if I want just the gtk gui? I don't have the time needed to learn to modify ebuild, and keep a separate overlay... I want to use Gentoo, not keep building it forever. Do I really have to accomodate for remote seat to be able to use Gentoo? '

mircea_popescu: i do not believe anyone alive today can answer this question cogently.

PeterL: I guess my question is: where does NY city pull it's drinking water from? Is it at all connected to the Hudson River?

PeterL: yeah, I know about MI water, but NY is leaking into their river, are they taking river water into their drinking water?

PeterL: trinque: I wonder if we ever get gossipd to replace freenode, will we still have these sorts of connection problems?

asciilifeform: caffeine etc. users are not typically faced with a mircea_popescutronic choice of 'should i dope or should i sleep how much i want and bathe in virgin tears.' more often, it is a 'i WILL get 4 hrs. of sleep and there is nothing to be done about it. will it be 4 hr and then i fall asleep at my desk and get sacked or 4 hr of being reasonably awake.'

assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 06:37:37; phf: it was mostly a rhetorical question, i just think that once you cross certain line with a substance, perhaps it's worthwhile to try something different. but since coffee guzzling is mostly done from lack of attention, perhaps it's not a good idea

assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 07:22:50; ben_vulpes: phf: i humbly bring lolz: http://www.everetthousehealingcenter.com/

asciilifeform: 'Do I really have to be forced to use accessibility if I want just the gtk gui? I don't have the time needed to learn to modify ebuild, and keep a separate overlay... I want to use Gentoo, not keep building it forever. Do I really have to accomodate for remote seat to be able to use Gentoo? ' ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'Most of those are conditional dependencies (useflag ? ...), and I checked and all of those with dbus ? sys-apps/dbus) have -dbus or no dbus at all in the output of emerge -p. But if I try and check dependencies on those that do depend on dbus...: ...it appears that if gtk+ with useflag X can't work without accessibility/at-spi2-atk ...'

eth2: i guess you've had quite a lot of visitors today haha

ben_vulpes: phf: i humbly bring lolz: http://www.everetthousehealingcenter.com/ ☟︎

b6: Oh my, i have voice

phf: but i'm going to drop the subject, i'm being tedious and i need to pass out anyway

phf: BingoBoingo: oh i wasn't saying it's harmful, i was saying that when coffee stops working, perhaps it's time to take amphetamines, since it's a cleaner and longer productive high. of course with a history of substance abuse of any kind it is perhaps not a good idea (same people who drink coffee by the litre, start eating amphetamines, etc.)

BingoBoingo wonders what could be so harmful about drinking less coffee con a daily basis than I often did vodka

phf: it was mostly a rhetorical question, i just think that once you cross certain line with a substance, perhaps it's worthwhile to try something different. but since coffee guzzling is mostly done from lack of attention, perhaps it's not a good idea ☟︎

BingoBoingo: How would I know if I did have a history of that?

phf: i thought aa mostly object to other substances only as much as they trigger alcohol abuse. unless you have a history of mixing alcohol and speed, there shouldn't be any crossover

phf: i don't mind the idea, but, if you need this much coffee, why not just take amphetamines?

mircea_popescu: nah, i drink a pot of coffee in like a month

phf: that evokes images of a decisive cup, rationed coffee as a boost for man's will in harsh conditions. most of the coffee experience i'm surrounded with is not like that at all. office workers on a litre a day, hipsters with artisanal pourovers, three jobs just to keep up crowd on a dunken donuts extra large. not much keeping up with nature

phf: i'm always reminded of that movie where i guy was living among wolves, every morning he'd drink a lot of coffee and make rounds

BingoBoingo: I go out front to see what the fuss is and the cat shoots out of the tree and under a car while the fox shoots off into a the park

asciilifeform: 'Basically I've accepted a life without physical friends, except family.'

asciilifeform: namely, that they do not actually use linux (i.e. gentoo) on their boxes

phf: i see

phf: well, yeah, all those hoops i jumped through, compiling anything non-trivial would kick in fans at 60000

phf: maybe i can get away with running 10.9 for the next five years at which point b-a will have its own scheme-81 clean room, yeah?

asciilifeform: i draw the line at 'randomly crashes during compiles'

phf: i have a borrowed carbon x1 that i'm hoping to make use of. guy was running ubuntu on it, and clean slackware install at the very least doesn't exhibit particularly aberrant behaviors

asciilifeform: at some point (not any time soon, i've elementarily no time) i will replace the thermal paste in the x60 with industrial diamond

phf: i'd probably persevere but it was interfering with my work, only so much you can do with cli emacs, without a proper browser

asciilifeform: i would have said 'there is a less atrocious machine, the legendary x60' but now i WON'T ...

phf: i gave up because integrated intel card and ati card combination required some fancy grub PEEK/POKE combination, and i didn't want to do grub

phf: well, that's why i'm back on mac os x in defeat

phf: most of the time i spent setting up linux on macbook pro was tracing and eliminating overheating problems

mircea_popescu: maybe i'm thick, but...

asciilifeform: and i own an ir thermometer.

asciilifeform: but yes, i use it.

asciilifeform: i threw the intel wifi in the trash and installed atheros.

DicePower: Ahh okay, thought I had to decode that hash thing.

asciilifeform: https://www.mail-archive.com/trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info/msg46322.html << aaaaaaaand apparently i am not the only one to notice.

asciilifeform: i am no longer sure that this is true.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pete_dushenski: i suspect that it is a js thing << look at the page source. no js, just a href anchors.

asciilifeform: i recently built what i believe is an exact replica of rms's laptop

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i suspect that it is a js thing

mircea_popescu: course i'm not installing fucking zorin or w/e the thing is called

mircea_popescu: i don't care. if it doesn't select correctly on a href anchor it's so broken it wouldn't qualify as a browser in 1995.

asciilifeform: srsly i have six boxes here with 6 browsers and not one.

mircea_popescu: i never heard of such thing in lyfe.

assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 01:07:38; mod6: i dunno where that other version came from.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1417816 << now i ~really~ would like to know where hdbuck got it. ☝︎

mod6: i'll check back in later all! <3

mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417559 << we're gonna need a whole lot of procedures. I'm excited to see all of your submissions. ☝︎

mod6: in scheme news, i learned how to read a file and print it out the screen. lol

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> breaks do a body good. << yeah for sure. and i think it totally helps to step back and see the entire forest through the trees.

mod6: i'll dig it up, but none the less, everyone should be using v99995 now

mod6: i dunno where that other version came from. ☟︎

mod6: asciilifeform: re yesterday (line 47) of some version of the V99997 build script.... I took a look at the one that was deedbot'd and that line was correct.

botneko-chan: ah, ok. I'm non native speaker, shortened eng sometimes hard for me