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mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 hey man do you have bouncer logs of historical b-a ? << sadly, no. :/
mircea_popescu: why even call this "an array". it's not an array ; it's a string.
mircea_popescu: or otherwise : why the fuck would i use anything but strings if the only way to access elements is through a n-th reference.
phf: An array is a superset of string
phf: A key value data store is a dictionary
mircea_popescu: a string ?
mircea_popescu: if an array is not a key-value datastore, wtf is it ?
phf: Nah, universally. A significant property of arrays shared across languages is that they give you some guarantees about access time, space utilization ☟︎
phf: You have to allocate underlying memory in which case a[n] is a claim about where in memory you are reading
phf: Well you can't do a[-1] because array indexing don't go that way. Can write two arrays a and b and make [n] access one or the other depending on the value
phf: Right now there's a nice property of clicking old links in log and being redirected to new logger
mircea_popescu: you mean implicit array such as nth element of A as opposed to A[-5] sorta references ?
mircea_popescu: there's a rule you can't index by negative numbers ?
phf: You get a lot of nice properties if all your data has a positive fixnum ids
mircea_popescu: mod6 hey man do you have bouncer logs of historical b-a ?
phf: I'm not sure of a reasonable way of integrating it though. Main issue, and general with canonical log approach taken so far is each entry has an id, starts at 1, and incremented by assbot database
mircea_popescu: but yes a proper bouncer log would be better, save you the gaps you know ?
phf: Unless somebody steps forward who had a bouncer instance running since the early days
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Chamicka, age 14, says she accepted Hot Pockets frozen toaster sandwiches for sex and would gladly do it again.Nicole, age 15, says her and her 14 year old sister had sex with a man for a double cheeseburger. Whether it was the cheeseburger meal, and if it was supersized, was not made clear. And Chiquanna, age 14, says she had sex for a lobster buffet dinner."
asciilifeform: lol im also konphyoosed, i'm in a room full of chinese
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform average whore still works 4 an hour for 6 hours. do i sign you up for 24 fucks a day ?
asciilifeform: 'erection is scarce' is a laugh
diana_coman: fwiw my understanding of that is simply that there are a whole lot of women around who can't get enough
asciilifeform: even a tard can muster erect
mircea_popescu: you get 9 tools type A to 10 tools type B ; all the B's work, about half the A's work and while Bs are always on As are on 1% of the time or so.
mircea_popescu: see alfie, erections are scarce now that they have a cure for it.
mircea_popescu: "The white men that were visible were all driving; either cop cars or luxury sedans and SUVs. One SUV-load of stoned and drunk white men were shadowing a group of three black girls, calling out the window asking about prices, assuming they were hookers. A young guy standing at the stop next to me yelled to the insane looking Eastern European drunk that was hanging out the window, “Yo fool, they either givin’ it away or ki
mircea_popescu: hey, if i didn't know better i'd think you're discussing a trilema article.
diana_coman: she's a beauty and he's a millionaire? lol
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, this theory that baltimore riots is directly resulting from john hopkins hospital/uni buying gangland, much like flooding of a spot of floor is directly resulting from broom pushing on the other side of puddle is rather interesting.
diana_coman: well, going back to the "interact with reality on different levels" thing might make it perhaps clearer: would this "millionaire vision" be basically a superior level of interaction?
diana_coman: mk, a state of vision so then what does this have to do with "being better" at all?
mircea_popescu: being "a millionaire" is much like "being really scary". it's not something the thing IS, it's something the subject perceives.
diana_coman: and my view of it as a stage basically
mircea_popescu: mno. at best it is a state of vision, and thus entirely unrelated to the object,
diana_coman: I suppose the difference comes at heart from defining millionaire as a state of being and thus an inevitable characteristic of the essence of a person (that's my understanding of your position)
mircea_popescu: in purely atomic terms they're incredibly mutable, and a rather good approximation of "random pile of carbon nuclei".
mircea_popescu: the whole point is that you can "be" a millionaire in the exact sense you can "be" a wife ; or a tree can "be" yours.
mircea_popescu: similarly a string doesn't "turn into anything". and main section stars don't turn into really large conglomeration of bathroom rubber duckies.
mircea_popescu: life isn't "whatever we make of it", but a rather well constrained biological process.
diana_coman: it's not about collective-bargaining, it's about the fact that all of a sudden it seems we are talking about different entities, so we need to set the definitions somehow
diana_coman: and if people don't change, then get yourself a newborn and tell me how is s/he the millionaire
diana_coman: hm: a. people change who they are all the time really (think dementia for a clear example, not that all are through illness or that radical)
mircea_popescu: well no. it's a matter of being what they are. hence the ancient "you can't just power cycle a box with no idea of what you are doing".
diana_coman: it's not a matter of doing X or Y, but rather HOW one does X or Y
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pete_dushenski: being the pig is also +ev until christmas. << he has a point. "renegotiable" when your side of the negotiation is pack it and leave and their side is "take it or leave it" is insanity on a stick.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski interesting! so one can either borrow at a low rate and expect no return, or borrow at a high rate and pray for a return?
phf: a side effect of all things being interconnected, http://glyf.org/tmp/all-one.png searching for bitcoind includes annotations, which in this case take you to correct follow ups
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: li battery recalls are a snore
phf: should probably call this search grep, and have that as first thing, eventually to be replaced by proper search-a-tron
phf: assbot: 1 results for 'meth lsd lisp' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meth+lsd+lisp
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ideally, they go in the form of renting time from a workshop wtf is this my garage is my workshop artisan thing. << Arises from the idea that public tools are icky
pete_dushenski: shinohai: we'll be consultants! like dogbert's bit wherein he sells $1k books on how to become a millionaire. inside book it suggests "sell 1k books for $1k!"
shinohai buys a boat and starts a bitcoin privateer business with pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: piracy is, after all, easier than bagging a lunch
asciilifeform: hell, if you can do remote, why even live on land and pay rent like an idiot. live on a motherfucking ship. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: it's no wonder everyone is screaming "canada has a housing bubble"
pete_dushenski: " With only 7% of Canadians having mortgage terms between six and 10 years, long terms are not a popular choice in Canada. They are even less popular amongst younger age groups at only 3% uptake in ages 18-34."
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: with 10-year MAX for mortgage rates in canada, even if amortization is 30 years, it's be a pig, buy house for cash, or rent.
BingoBoingo: <phf> proper way to deal with iowa is buy a house, get your 800$/mo satellite internet (not even checking what's available, why bother), and do your aerospace/banking/medical it consulting work remote << In Iowa you can probably get fiber internet unless you conciously decide to farm or hermit
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes it may well be that i hail from narnia, but yes, interest rates and house prices are inversely correlated. furthermore, and i forget sometimes that americans lock in rates for entire mortgages, but canadians typically renegotiate their rates every 5 years. longer terms are available, but it's been +ev to take shorter terms for so long that i don't know of a single homeowner who doesn't do 5-year term
asciilifeform: the third one is not a problem !
asciilifeform: if only tmsr had a thing that solves all 3... l0l
phf: two problems, fear, surprise and a most ruthless
phf: jurov: also i agree as far as swank being piece of shit, it's just that it supports a certain development style that you can't get anywhere else, except smalltalk
phf: really, asdf lets you do "load all my source" quite trivially as long as you packed it into a package ahead of time
trinque: for now I'll just turd out a save-lisp-and-die and go from there
pete_dushenski: ty cycle brought on by changes in engine programming may significantly reduce the time between major services for TDI engines coupled to a manual transmission." << /me falls off chair
pete_dushenski: "Drivers may notice a decrease in fuel efficiency of between 5 and 32 percent, depending on climate, engine model year, and driving habits. Some drivers may also notice a decrease in power under certain conditions, such as full-throttle driving or highway operation. In some tests, the power rating of the VW TDI engine was affected by as much as 26 percent during full-throttle operation in cold climates. Finally, the increas
phf: i played with swank on live webserver setup (back when marco's UnCommonWeb was a thing) and quickly gave up on it, when i was hit with a bug that 100+ people triggered
jurov: phf, as a lisp newbie i wondered why asdf is so consistently tagged "obsolete" everywhere
phf: trinque: so just deploy the way you would normally deploy and write a simple set of operator commands (or even a menu driven thing) for repl, that you can control things over. "press 1 to asdf reload :FOO package, press 2 to reinitilize data, etc."
phf: swank is pretty useless on prod, unless you jump through all hoops ahead of time and get it to a casual state. you want ssh files to work and trump is still slow for that, so you have to do fusefs
trinque: phf: hey how do you deploy a lisp thing?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/aKIww
PeterL: but nature abhors a vacuum, would be like inciting the wrath of God
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: consider, a litre of hydrogen lifts ~1 gram.
pete_dushenski: "The Local Dirigible Manufacturing requirement is expected to kickstart a nascent aerospace industry in Alberta, furthering government’s effort to diversify the economy. " << kek
asciilifeform: but roaches show up as quickly as they come to a newly-built block of flats in nyc
asciilifeform: which is one of the resons thinking folk so often succumb to the temptation of 'let's make a lang'
phf: from the world of lisp rot, asdf, the `make' of common lisp, has been gaining features for a while now to the point that it contains all kinds of crazy shit, like a fullblown cross-lisp compatibility layer for various file operations, etc. so i pulled version 1.369, last one before faré took over the operations, it is 75kb vs current 560k (which is itself packed from a large repo). not surprisingly it works, but when it doesn't it exposes cockroa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#comment-116904
trinque: asciilifeform: smells like a general trend of making companies get used to acting as part of law enforcement
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#selection-99.36-99.46 << but it any case / but ~in~ any case ?
asciilifeform: 'Social networking forum reddit on Thursday removed a section from its site used to tacitly inform users it had never received a certain type of U.S. government surveillance request, suggesting the platform is now being asked to hand over customer data under a secretive law enforcement authority.'
phf: (Erm `room' on a lisp says how much you're using rather than how much is left)
phf: Room on a running cmu instance gives 168mb. Peanuts
phf: I think joins and quits add a lot of extra noise
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't like space as a tokenizer he has other issues.
phf: oddest things using #'= in a search across numeric vectors instead of #'eql slows things down by 1.3 seconds...
phf: so a grep through an entire log takes 1.5s (testing with grep lsd), same thing done in a log thingy takes 3s
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/#comment-116902 << mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: the white people like it because it certifies their interesting-ness, just like a neglected housewife is flattered by the attention of pubescent makes. the government engages in the behaviour because it is a pubescent male. win-win as they say.
mircea_popescu: what, there's a relation between knowledge and action now ?
mircea_popescu: why can't it ask them ? ha! because it's made up of pasty white boys. it can't ask them for the same reasonh the pasty ass white boys individually can't ask the cashiers for a blowjob.
mircea_popescu: "The NEWS will depict this violence as a protest gone out of control. However, as of 11:00 a.m. black female cashiers at the Shoppers supermarket at Mondawmin mall knew through social media that riots were being planned by high school students—an attack from students at one school [Frederick Douglas high School] on the very shopping center their parent's patronized." << this actuallyt is very illustrative of the whole "spyi
asciilifeform: l0l we just had a man publicly quit in disgust
asciilifeform: srsly they never even so much as said a rude word.
mircea_popescu: "I’m over six miles from the city line, among townhomes that go for 400K, walking through a park that is a slice of solitude during the day and a gauntlet at night; a park where I have seen two gangs parley in a formal manner as I pretended to be some homeless slob on the next bench, and where, this time last year, I saw a white stoner in his 20s trying to talk his girl into getting into a van full of black guys as she crie
mircea_popescu: this is really not a bad idea