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mp_en_viaje: but the fact that the man selling you a job is using some "unrelated" accolytes to collect the cost of job, and the fact man selling you job pretends he's collecting "rent" which is totally no cost of job makes no fucking difference. and the fact man selling you job tries to pretend you gotta buy it, to "have status", much like engagement ring salesmen try to pretend, also make no difference.

mp_en_viaje: like a pair of shoes, which is WHAT THEY ARE. a job isn't who the fuck you are, a job is ~something you bought~. like a tv set or a couch.

mp_en_viaje: if you lived off photosynthesis, the scamjob still stays a scamjob. because whether job is scam or not ~is about the job~. NOT about you, in any capacity.

mp_en_viaje: i pointed out to you that this is not a valid response, you ~moved on to attacking me~. guess what, wehther i'm rich or poor, happy or unhappy, tall or short, it is STILL not valid to go into a discussion of 1+2 when i point out to you you did something stupid.

mp_en_viaje: this, IN TURN, is not a valid response.

mp_en_viaje: you intervened to point out that you live in a scamhouse.

mp_en_viaje: i was explaining to the inquiring mind how to price a supposed job : take an actual house, see what it costs, see how it figures against the supposed job. the process will illuminate whether it's a real job or a scam job.

mp_en_viaje: we were discussing a thing. you came up with some cuntlogic.

mp_en_viaje: now stop squirming about. there's no squirming about. you made a claim, which is false.

mp_en_viaje: then everyone else : "so get a bunch of choppers, if one lifts a little a lot will lift a lot" alf : "oh noes, only can exist one, my toy chopper is magical"

mp_en_viaje: this sort of idiocy has been the stock in trade of your non-technical contribution for the past ... soon to be a decade, holy shit!

mp_en_viaje: mno. a : "here is job". b : "this job does not pay enough to buy house" ; a. "but shoebox also house" b : "your scamhouse doesn't make your scamjob a job"

mp_en_viaje: yes.but cost ~of one of the actual houses~. NOT ~of such a hole as plebes might inhabit~

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: given example was specifically a ratio of 'cost' / 'budget' tho

mp_en_viaje: t'd take to buy a respective portion of the finite turkeys of the land.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 22:24 asciilifeform: incidentally fwiw the shack asciilifeform lives in , would cost ~2y of his pay to buy. but i ~dun want~ to buy it, why would i want to buy a decaying cardboard-an'-siding thing.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914454 << talking to you is often enough an exercise in "let's see what this intelligent but illiterate kid deliberately failed to notice in the source material / replaced with constructed story from head". house there linked built ~century ago, brick. specificaly because is not a matter of "what'd it take to buy rabbit-dwelling shoebox in which subjective rabbit lives". it's a matter of what i ☝︎

trinque: I'd love to see a trb ebuild come of this mod6

mod6: Anyway, I'm gonna grab some food here. I'll work on a write up this weekend among other things. o7

mod6: That seemed to resolve the problem. Let me do a wotpaste of the vpatch so you can see what I've done.

mod6: I ran into some trouble with BDB along the way because of a relocation record. '.rodata.values.2406'

mod6: I used diana_coman's vtron build with the same. Pressed the (yet unverified by lord keccak vpatch bundle that I created in January) keccak tree, made the changes in the makefiles, etc. Have a vpatch.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 15:52 asciilifeform: paulgraham -- before turning into the infamous huckster -- had a piece where 'which biznis should you get into if you LUVV gardening?' '...recovering data from damaged hard disks!'

asciilifeform: trinque: i once attended a gathering of 'writers'. one unusually introspective type uttered phrase 'do you all understand that we're competing for each other's beer money' ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914449 << i know a whole platoon of folx , in meatspace, in deeper holes ( e.g. mortgageisms, alimonies, childrenz, 'student loans', drink. ) but there is ~always~ somewhere a deeper hole to be found than whichever . ☝︎

asciilifeform: incidentally fwiw the shack asciilifeform lives in , would cost ~2y of his pay to buy. but i ~dun want~ to buy it, why would i want to buy a decaying cardboard-an'-siding thing. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 21:04 mp_en_viaje: you then put the 898`00 into http://www.interest.com/mortgage/calculators/mortgage-calculator/ to find out that over 10 years fixed 5% interest rate you have to pay 9,524.68 monthly (funny how they quote the rates in monthly and the salaries in yeary, huh), which comes to 114296.16, which is 14701.16 a year MORE than what the Representative of the Director General to the United Nations, who provides leadership and professional d

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914445 << pretty lulzy detail in there : >> 'a tax-free annual net base salary' . wonder how this worx. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: therefore such a person can't afford to live in queens.

mp_en_viaje: you then put the 898`00 into http://www.interest.com/mortgage/calculators/mortgage-calculator/ to find out that over 10 years fixed 5% interest rate you have to pay 9,524.68 monthly (funny how they quote the rates in monthly and the salaries in yeary, huh), which comes to 114296.16, which is 14701.16 a year MORE than what the Representative of the Director General to the United Nations, who provides leadership and professional d ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: whaack: alright ty. I will drop the nyc linkedin plan then << nyc is a terrible place to stay in any case. if you're not making bank on wallstreet, you have no excuse to be there ; and even then, it's an excuse. if you're gonna linkedin, do a basic "what job pays - what single family ~house~ costs to buy in location.". if job doesn't pay over what loan would cost you, it is not a job, whatever they call it.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 17:22 asciilifeform: 'Roll the five dice ten times on a flat, even surface, writing down...'

BingoBoingo: Ah. Anyways, I know a good hostel, which in Uruguay still means you'll be in a foreign language space most of the time.

whaack: I wasn't implying that I would test drive Uruguay for a year. I would try it for 1-2 months first of course.

BingoBoingo: whaack: I'd recommend if you come to Uruguay you don't spend the whole year test driving the country without a solid job offer when there's other parts of LATAM to explore.

asciilifeform: whaack: if yer making piles and piles o'dough in reich, and ~very~ disciplined, it can theoretically be a thing to do, save it up an' buy a block of flats in BingoBoingostan or similar. but i hesitate to recommend to anyone to sit in reich a single day longer than can be helped

whaack: But I’m not quite sure what I should do with my life. I am considering one of the following: staying in NYC and getting a “linkedin” job for 1-2 years, creating a base in some cheap rural surf part of CR, or moving to a Spanish speaking city.

whaack: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913067 << I am considering making a trip down to Uruguay some time in October. By that time I should have some fiat saved up to live frugally for a ~year, and I'll be done with current work/family obligations. ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'Roll the five dice ten times on a flat, even surface, writing down...' ☟︎

asciilifeform: fella defo lurked for a good while, and attentively.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 13:14 stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913902 << if anyone is interested, i also worked through verifying the deed: http://edgecase.net/articles/verifying_a_signed_deed_of_the_gpg_1410_source_code

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 13:06 stjohn_piano_2: this led to: multi-author, every article is signed (optionally by the author as well), articles are in a linear order (hence "103"), unalterability means that additional authors can trust that the owner can't sabotage their work / code.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 13:05 stjohn_piano_2: perhaps it's worth mentioning that, at every point when building edgecase, i asked myself "what should a reputable publishing system in the age of cryptography look like?".

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914363 << if you haven't already read, you may be interested in ben_vulpes' classic likbez on v ☝︎☟︎

diana_coman: sure; onth look at the rather long-list of people that seemed to manage to do it for a while but only for a while.

diana_coman: I guess part of his problem is being in the UK+cambridge area really - prices&salaries are so inflated that he probably needs a salt-mine-irl place just to make ends meat and that makes it then very hard to have any time/brain left to actually do the meaningful learning he still has to do

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914368 << consider ada. ( ffa series imho makes a decent ada tutorial, and so does diana_coman's series ) ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 12:54 stjohn_piano_2: example: 1) numbered image files containing schematics 2) text files containing transcribed text 3) notes files containing the text on the schematics, with a reference to the corresponding image file.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914373 << i thought it was obv from the www, but must note that fg was sold out year+ ago . at some point we'll make the third gen. board , but not any time soon. danielpbarron however has a dealership and iirc still has a few in stock. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 12:58 stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913861 << i was not contemplating doing the bulk of the typing myself. my preferred approach would be to find a russian speaker, get them to make a GPG key, do the bulk work, and send it to me for correction.

stjohn_piano_2: a small village near newmarket, in suffolk.

stjohn_piano_2: re how/why: due to rsi (repetitive strain injury), i currently run at 40-50% text production capacity, if i type slowly and steadily, with breaks. this is up from 0.1% capacity two years ago. trying to respond in real-time, as i did yesterday, is too high a rate for me to keep up.

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914325 << a distinction of sorts, i guess. "one body at a time, minefield is cleared". ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 20:17 diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: re programming otherwise, there's eulora with a shit-ton of interesting stuff to do but there like ~anywhere, it's always about digging deeper rather than looking wider as it were

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914167 << i have no doubt that there are interesting problems in eulora, else you and mircea popescu would not spend so much time on it. unfortunately, i have to prioritise looking for paid work / finding a job. ☝︎

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913902 << if anyone is interested, i also worked through verifying the deed: http://edgecase.net/articles/verifying_a_signed_deed_of_the_gpg_1410_source_code ☝︎☟︎

stjohn_piano_2: this led to: multi-author, every article is signed (optionally by the author as well), articles are in a linear order (hence "103"), unalterability means that additional authors can trust that the owner can't sabotage their work / code. ☟︎

stjohn_piano_2: perhaps it's worth mentioning that, at every point when building edgecase, i asked myself "what should a reputable publishing system in the age of cryptography look like?". ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:48 mp_en_viaje: rom all the pomp of "datafeed article 103," etc. it just clunks up your thought process. i know you don' tthink so, familiarity breeds a feeling of safety etc. but it's absolutely never worth it to have more shit than you need.

stjohn_piano_2: i studied some russian once upon a time, i could almost certainly correct it, with a little practice.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:48 asciilifeform: i dare say this is not the 1st line of work i'd picture a fella with broken hands going into..

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913861 << i was not contemplating doing the bulk of the typing myself. my preferred approach would be to find a russian speaker, get them to make a GPG key, do the bulk work, and send it to me for correction. ☝︎☟︎

stjohn_piano_2: example: 1) numbered image files containing schematics 2) text files containing transcribed text 3) notes files containing the text on the schematics, with a reference to the corresponding image file. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:46 asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: if you're a serious meat-ocr, asciilifeform has a tough cookie, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909563 , would defo pay for quality hand-entry of it

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913854 << i've had a look through these. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:34 mp_en_viaje: all sorts of unexpected things improve productivity, and the thing with improved productivity is that it's a very hard exponential -- cutting yet another 1% dead weight produces massive gains because it lowers effort under pleasure threshold.

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913740 << an error, which i will have to go and fix. checkpoint 8 has been held back from "published" status, because there is a little bitcoin in the address derived from the checkpoint. ☝︎

stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913698 << i also completely forgot that GPG encrypts to a subkey, not to the primary, so of course the key ID would be different. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: it's transparently a slot for us to humiliate itself, which it won't do, so...

asciilifeform: in other ~recent lulz, 'Mar 9, 2019 - US citizens travelling to Europe will need to obtain a visa from 2021, the European Union (EU) has said.'

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 18:22 asciilifeform: Key ID - 0x889ACC4FC8EFFF13 is defo not any of his subs ~or~ the primary. trinque ^ prolly worth a look

mp_en_viaje: both tor-likes and linkedin-likes are ~same vintage and ~same flavour for a reason.

asciilifeform: iirc we had coupla thrds re whether they even still ~have~ a 'core of productive' somewhere.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall coupla yrs ago an nsa flunkie reportedly ate a bullet in afghan. was novel enuff that was newsworthy.

asciilifeform: upstack : asciilifeform at one time learned that nsa has an unofficial exemption from 'discrimination laws', they dun hire ru folx -- but china a+++ a-ok

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: entertainingly, some yrs ago i had to write a 'decompiler' for these, to pull out ie 'sploits etc

asciilifeform: 'var Fingerprinting={sendFingerprint:function(b,d,e){var a=Fingerprinting.getFingerprintData(),c=new XMLHttpRequest;a["x-f-uc"]=e;a.csrf_token=d;c.open("POST",b);c.setRequestHeader("Content-type","application/json");c.send(JSON.stringify(a))},collectInitialFingerprint:function(b,d,e,a){setTimeout(function(){Fingerprinting.sendFingerprint(b,d,e)},a)}...' lol

asciilifeform: otoh the other kind, where you sit for 6mo and then 'we have a great honour for you...' trickier

asciilifeform: Mocky: the ones where already gotta be a eunuch right off the door, pretty easy to avoid

asciilifeform: Mocky: i left a slave galley at one time when they presented me with a fully-filled set of forms and 'we shall do you great honour, mr. d, already paid for, nao please sign here to take holy orders'

asciilifeform: Mocky: for extra lulz, i still get megatonnes of recruiter spam, 'dear sir, if you have 'top seekrit clearance', we have a ... opening'

Mocky: I used a few different sites, but nsa or anything with 'clearance'... not *that* hungry

mp_en_viaje: actually, for a decade or so it has a real nsa and the traditional nsa. on top of ^

mp_en_viaje: such a lizzard, that octopus.

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, great way to earn a living from eg albanian secret service. "oh look, i have connection!!!"

asciilifeform: nicoleci: iirc this was a usg.valley play at 'arsebook, but for work, make it so that plebe can't find work if we kick him off site'

nicoleci: asciilifeform, lol. you get the special privilege of getting the FULL linkedin approved names of whose viewed your profile instead of just the job titles, plus all the other hr bullshit like being able to post a job add

asciilifeform: sounds like typical india. betcha there's a 1000-tall pile of if-thens in there.

asciilifeform: a

asciilifeform: iirc we saw a thing like this at one pt

mp_en_viaje: ie, if obfuscator of pathway A results in unloadable page, there's also pathway B.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's a pretty standard, as they go, 'indian code'

mp_en_viaje: i'd expect. item leaks like a sieve.

diana_coman: possibly they "cleaned" her account for herself since it can't possibly be that she wrote such a thing there !!

asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje wrote a pretty good sifter for it, so if lemon had juice yet, would presumably still give juice

asciilifeform: thought so, given as not mentioned in log for a while nao

mp_en_viaje: anyway, i dunno imperial "platforms" have much utility beyond this derivative comedy value, of making a laughingstock of the empire and it's inept movements.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511945 and all that. socialism has a grand total of exactly 1 strategies. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: nah, prolly stays for a while, is deleted again, then "please verify acct", then "here's an imaginary someone else by your name", then etc.

asciilifeform: re wai took >6mo?! aint cunt supposed to be a nonmaskable-interrupt