asciilifeform: cut old liver ~when new one is sitting on the table, steaming, ready to transplant~

asciilifeform: but it is strange to begin with removing old one.

asciilifeform: give, give

asciilifeform: and cutting out the old one , does not add up to even 0.1% of the work.

asciilifeform: davout: it would. but we haven't one yet.

asciilifeform: and should not turn on at all.

asciilifeform: but coffin on wheels.

asciilifeform: davout: my point was solely that a car sans-brakes is not a car

asciilifeform: infinite 'dust' fragging

asciilifeform: davout: this is theoretically possible. in practice it seems like the direct opposite happens ?

asciilifeform: nao i'm curious

asciilifeform: now why would it decrease ?

asciilifeform: nor is there any promise from any god that it will stay below 2GB, or 20, or 20,000, it is doomed to increase

asciilifeform: davout: afaik we do not have this cache.

asciilifeform: davout: if you're happy to wait for 30 min to an hour every time you unsheath the 'launch codes' -- then yes.

asciilifeform: i.e. half hour or so (and destined to linearly increase forever) per shot.

asciilifeform: otherwise you get it in O(N).

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you want it in O(1) , yes

asciilifeform: trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608149 ☝︎

asciilifeform: prior to a replacement being ready.

asciilifeform: but not only will i not sign such a thing, i question the sanity of anyone who would.

asciilifeform: trinque: that part is quite obvious and goes without saying

asciilifeform: snipping old wallet is a trivial patch, i suspect that any and each of trb folx could re-create it in half hour

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: why not throw out all of bitcoin ? oh we'll make new one next year.

asciilifeform: why not also cut out mempool ? 'oh we'll make new one LATERZ!!!! PROMISE!'

asciilifeform: tell me why a cut should be so much as considered for ten seconds without a ready, tested replacement.

asciilifeform: davout: you just said that you have not yet produced a replacement ?

asciilifeform: if , using your trb, i cannot transact ?

asciilifeform: what are the knobs, davout , if you remove the wallet and offer no equivalent replacement ?

asciilifeform: davout: pretty much everyone tuned in has experienced firsthand the retardation of the old walletron.

asciilifeform: but to remove vital organs and replace them with 'promise to give new liver later!!!' is lunacy.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a pretty good imho description of the necessary cutting-apart of trb

asciilifeform: in order to do this, it must WORK

asciilifeform: davout: it defines ~what bitcoin is~

asciilifeform: it'd be one thing if davout proposed the cut ~in tandem with~ a standalone walletron. even if it were made entirely out of the old one. ☟︎

asciilifeform: and not 'working but you gotta go to some unspecified junkyard and glue a new liver for it out of ??? first'

asciilifeform: it means, first and foremost, WORKING bitcointron

asciilifeform: it's the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of a reference client.

asciilifeform: which means 100% of necessary function to set up bitcoin on alpha centauri. no exceptions.

asciilifeform: i'm with ben_vulpes . it's a motherfucking REFERENCE CLIENT

asciilifeform: (i would certainly not use a walletron based on openssl that DOES NOT PRE-DATE VALUABLEBTC forfuckssake)

asciilifeform: davout: we don't even have a suitable bignumatron yet

asciilifeform: 'i'ma snip out this cirrhotic liver and some time later i'll maybe find a new one' ?

asciilifeform: or is the plan to create (why???) a quite-useless castrato-trb.

asciilifeform: davout: have you written this external proggy ?

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu is there a translation of http://trilema.com/2011/oul-morganatic/ ?

asciilifeform: and in a lulzy continuation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-25#1606755 >> in the fishwrap: http://archive.is/wnygX ☝︎

asciilifeform: the sheer multilayer butthurt..

asciilifeform: 'Reached by phone Wednesday, O’Grady, 33, said she has struggled to plug the stream of hateful messages that have inundated her Twitter feed and Facebook page since Tuesday morning, leaving her “defeated and dejected.”'

asciilifeform: but in latest lulz, http://archive.is/8G35m >> 'O’Grady was mistakenly identified this week as a Secret Service agent (also named Kerry O’Grady) who is under investigation for posting a statement on Facebook that appeared to indicate she preferred jail over being shot and killed for President Trump.' ☟︎

asciilifeform: slooooow

asciilifeform: archive.today under ddos?

asciilifeform: bureaucrat 'resistance'.

asciilifeform: Many of the accounts use the official logos of the departments they claim to represent, like the Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, or various regional park services.'

asciilifeform: in quite other lulz, http://archive.is/v8l8N >> 'The @AltNatParkSer account was quickly followed by dozens more. There are now at least 50 "unofficial" or "alternative" accounts purporting to represent the views of government staffers or agencies.

asciilifeform: also apparently you can (sorta) get these off the shelf, e.g., https://www.controlanything.com/Relay/Device/USBFOI

asciilifeform: http://www.vlf.it/smith1/opticalink.html << rare instance of useful, sane work published on www.

asciilifeform sings, 'незримого фронта солдаты...'

asciilifeform: and this counts only ~official~ agencies (rather than, e.g., 'palantir')

asciilifeform: i shit thee not.

asciilifeform: 16! apparently, by latest count.

asciilifeform: 11.

asciilifeform: in hope of getting at least 1 functional piece.

asciilifeform: they are , as i understand it, going for the classical kgb/gru split.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this re the nsa/cybercom split..?

asciilifeform: and what to iraq with.

asciilifeform: aha, left what to blow idiot 'dotcom' bubble with.

asciilifeform: (rather than , as one could naively suppose ) starvation, or 'honest work'

asciilifeform: result was, typically, mass migration into 'contract' sector.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: similar thing happened under clinton, 'brac'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite so

asciilifeform: or just snoring on the job?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608078 << i take it that fr police are not equipped with heavy machinegun like in usa ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608062 << that looks like an ordinary unix diff ☝︎

asciilifeform: we had detailed thread re subj not so long ago

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608058 << hard part is not removing, but building new one as standalone proggy ☝︎

asciilifeform: and betcha chinese classics are rich in anthill literature.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608079 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-17#511591 << https://archive.is/PtzJd ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: in very other lulz, https://media.guim.co.uk/4a2b95b94d8e10acc053c5a61f2f0c317ca6bd91/0_266_4096_2462/4096.jpg

asciilifeform: https://opencores.org/project,uart_fiber << published schematics.

asciilifeform: because nobody cancelled green's theorem.

asciilifeform: i actually painted my 'model f' with conductive paint, 5 coats. it still radiates, from the cable.

asciilifeform: instead of wankage.

asciilifeform: i will add, it is more interesting than it seems, because optical interconnect would make shielding, e.g., keyboards, ~meaningful~

asciilifeform: (to be believeable.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they aint even tryin' any moar

asciilifeform: (copper wire is ~orders of magnitude~ costlier than even the finest glass fiber.)

asciilifeform: other than this.

asciilifeform: there is 0 reason why the cable to your lcd is not a fiber.

asciilifeform: who refused -- i presume -- Had Problems. ☟︎

asciilifeform: usg proclaimed, Thou Shalt Radiate For Us

asciilifeform: (rs232 to costly glass fiber IS available, for many hundreds of usd AT EACH PLUG END)

asciilifeform: it is MOST peculiar that -- afaik -- NOWHERE can you buy a rs232-to-toslink converter.

asciilifeform: now in some cheap gear there IS light leakage at the connector. but nothing black varnish wouldn't solve.

asciilifeform: a few $ each.

asciilifeform: and the transceivers are still made by toshiba and quite well-built (conductive plastic shield, for instance.)

asciilifeform: 0 electrical conduction.

asciilifeform: imho could easily live a new life as non-radiating ('tempest') connector between crypto gear.

asciilifeform: it is an ancient (iirc 1980) and cheapo (plentiful, pre-crimped fibers in various lengths , for pennies) cable standard, at one point was used for high-end speakers