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a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784318 << ah damn, sir. Why are you playing with knives here. It was obvious a long time ago that mircea_popescu just wanted you to submit. You can't block the king from intervening in lordly affairs in his own kingdom. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you plan to rent boxes when we get them racked, or possibly colocate?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
trinque: mircea_popescu: cool
mod6: mircea_popescu: that is being discussed, yes.
asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu , having sold his stake, and not even yet a subscriber, wishes to decree re what is done at bisp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu you are not a party to bisp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is apparently determined to maliciously run s.nsa into the ground, and pin the corpse on asciilifeform . ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants them at his house to use as boat anchor -- oughta specify this. they dun do much good here on desk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: transport has been arranged. what remains is 1) mircea_popescu wants'em in ? if so, how many (1,2,3?) 2) what type of disks he wants in #2 and #3 ( also remains option to outfit with disks at later time, after installation )
asciilifeform: oh while mircea_popescu is tuned in: bisp ( of which asciilifeform is 50% in ) awaits instructions re disposition of the 3 mircea_popescu boxen
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, sure. I have a lot of things going on tho lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: negrate, whatchawaiting for ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, never the less, I'm still very much behind the utility of ffa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to find which chips one is condemned to use egyptian innerloop MUL-substitute on.
asciilifeform: oh hey it's mircea_popescu
deedbot: ben_vulpes paid mircea_popescu 0.8
ben_vulpes: !!pay mircea_popescu 0.8
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, let me take care of that. 0.8 it was?
mod6: mircea_popescu!
shinohai: o hai mircea_popescu !
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you ordered these boxes from asciilifeform and then threw hands up over the whole thing; still want them disked and racked any preference on which?
ben_vulpes: well you've got the 1 machine that's ready to ship right now, dulap yhes? and then of the 2 remaining diskless gotta a) get disk in 'em and b) get mircea_popescu to okay their installation
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:49 mircea_popescu: yet i can't tell him from adam.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783483 << the correct approach is to make up for lost time by helping us become familiar with you (in the sense of your history -- there is no other you than what you do).
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was the thought behind suggesting ben_vulpes for that role here, after the results of send a Librarian to South America... some decisions probably gotta get more conservative http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783781 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 15:16 mircea_popescu: i'll be here an hour later. so will be here the fact the latter approach is well known and THOROUGHLY documented to cause shocking failure in otherwise well meaning, intelligent and respectable kids. that's ~the whole history of early bitcoin.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:13 mircea_popescu: or in more pointed terms, we've been running a http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ except for brains. the reaction in the population has been comparable. it turns out about as many people have brains as girls have tits. and they're about as intellectually useful, too!
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783842 << BingoBoingo needs supervision and tasking at a (micro-)scale that mircea_popescu understandably has zero interest in providing. now this may be a case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783173, but if building an isp for tmsr isn't worth bleeding for i don't know what is and so this is the breach into which i intend to step. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 if you'd rather pay cash, that's also fine. !!pay mircea_popescu .8 at your leisure
mod6: mircea_popescu: I'd like to see S.NSA's equipment come down to .uy and be also a customer.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:18 mircea_popescu: that aside, i don't necessarily want to be paid cash or anything ; carry the same http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-11#1783243 on the books alongside whatever you're adding via the foundation and it'll be fine.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:15 mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm not against you taking over ; but mind that as you also mention, BingoBoingo 's problem wasn't lack of access to capital (i dunno why this keeps being the expectation, as it's scarcely yet been the case, we're drastically overcapitalized is the entire fucking problem to begin with). BingoBoingo 's problem was lack of access to middle management, and it nigh on killed him. so for this to work, that's the key element.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since you mentioned it -- what exactly is a 'bytem' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:11 mircea_popescu: which brings the following point home : it's not at all http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783553 ; it's very much that the republic doesn't actually have the intellectual capacity to handle the needs of its immense capital, as of yet.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783585 << continuing on this discussion (not so as to improperly call asciilifeform 's usual dithery blather such ; but for the record, that a discussion was at least ~attempted~) : s.mg boardroom eventually decided yesterday to employ a format for the pre-padded rsa messages. it will consist of [F][random bits][message].
a111: Logged on 2018-02-12 16:42 mircea_popescu: "if mp built his back-to-back toilet, how could you ~using software only, mind!~ ensure the piss of his slavegirls doesn't mix ?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, not perfect but servicable. Cuning enough to extract a decent living here outta the orcs while waiting to return to the Dental profession.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how you hodling up ? << I guess the other big lesson is that in a bit more than two months, this weekend has shown that I made at least one servicable friend here
a111: Logged on 2014-04-16 02:39 mircea_popescu: ;;rate TomServo 1 New blood.
asciilifeform: this particular observation ( mircea_popescu had a 'liars can't invent' article ) i found fascinating and tried several times to write a piece in application re particular historic charlatans , but failed to say anyffingnew
BingoBoingo: But with the IspWish... With a mircea_popescu venture I had a good idea I was playing with a knife. I have a lot of uncertainty what a mod6, ben_vulpes, alf coalition offers that mircea_popescu didn't other than padding and yet to be determined quality of middle management. If they present an escape plan it would provide a lot of comfort.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: One day at a time. This has been good for my AA basics even if the local AA seems more cargo cult as my spanish improves.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wb btw. i for one thought that mircea_popescu was tired of teaching his kindergarten..
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 13:57 mircea_popescu: alternatively, i have no problem taking say 1.5 worth of absolutely senior convertible equity in your continuant venture, however you call it.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 22:44 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes speaking of house, the BEST THING father can do for his daughter, aged 9 to 19, is make sure she has abundant, clean protein available. no meal without salmon, fine beef, shrimp, pump her full of 100g of protein a day.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 17:25 mircea_popescu: hmm, where the hell is the place where i say the father's responsibility to his daughter is to shove a pound of raw prime beef down her throat every day and naught else ?
asciilifeform: who knows, 20y from nao , a different asciilifeform will meet a different mircea_popescu and they will look for a sane numeric lib and ~find~ one, instead of sitting for 4y without...
asciilifeform: somebody plox wake up mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ( since mircea_popescu seems to be sleeping i'ma have to run the emulator : 'it's because they are part of my Adult World, not this stinking kindergarten' )
ben_vulpes: aaand that assumes that the 5 slots mircea_popescu wants don't overlap with s.nsa
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783475 << this is not that clear to me. what i've penciled out is that there are some ~1.8kusd monthly of rack rental buy side floating around, and mircea_popescu's plan as i understand it was to build and rent vpsen to get to breakeven, which still needs someone in teh forums hawking vps ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 23:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782932 << the only point to my eyes is that someone fucked in the head enough to run something they call "datacenter" without one ton of spare racks laying about is not distinguishable from three twelve year old white boys in a "tree fort" running a "porn business" through taking complicatedly filtered ipad shots of their own palms.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, reality can only be elided at significant personal sacrifice and over short intervals. so, to repeat it : there is no future for the republic without an isp.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 14:00 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what your lack of experience isn't informing you is that you have a very significant advantage. your ~7k per annum cost compares very VERY favorable to what empire pays to hire a walmart drone (25k or so base + 20k or so in overload). the walmart drone costs 6x what you do, and i daresay they do not do 1/6th of what you do. just because you came out short of lordship in the field does not now mean the baseline of
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo soo, you're buying your ticket wednesday or what was it ? << I was planning on picking it up Thursday if there has been no interest through Wednesday in channel on a takeover mission for this venture. I can extend the timeline a bit, if it is prudent to do so.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, reality can only be elided at significant personal sacrifice and over short intervals. so, to repeat it : there is no future for the republic without an isp.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-14 01:40 mircea_popescu: funny how nobody in france and generally in the "nordic model" train of euro-socialistoid train wants to remember how, by and large, french society was either supportive or indifferent of the nazis, and how "la resistance" maps almost exactly on what today would be "extreme righyt wing extremism", and how de gaulle, the exact equivalent of say arafat, got to re-write history into some delusional "all france stood behin
a111: Logged on 2018-02-12 19:36 mircea_popescu: in spite of all overwhelming evidence. because who knows, right ? science hasn't discovered everything, and it has all the time in the world!
asciilifeform: somehow i knew mircea_popescu would say this!
asciilifeform: seems to me like mircea_popescu described an ideal miser, who hoards forever 'for later' and dies on a mattress fulla benjies, rather than 'neet' redditus
asciilifeform: but contrary to mircea_popescu's intuitions, the cpu slicing is not the hardest puzzle piece.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i've deployed it in past life.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'd have to be xen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'useful' output is 'i dun have this money'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo , et al : have i missed anything obvious here ? << The deal with mircea_popescu was mircea_popescu bankrolls BingoBoingo builds isp for BingoBoingo with mircea_popescu as honored investor. For asciilifeform or whoever else may take an interest in taking over, the deal that interests me is BingoBoingo remains in Montevideo to help asciilifeform/alfteam/etc build themselves an isp taking clear
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: of the 400 that it costs among sane people, or the 6000 that it costs in monkeylandia, is the (potential) problem
a111: Logged on 2018-02-12 15:57 mircea_popescu: but if you notice memory is 60% of the price and ~nobody knows wtf is going on... you get taxed on a third at most.
asciilifeform: briefly upstack to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-12#1783327 : it matters 'a third' ~of what~ . if it's of the 15k list price of the box when it was new ( asciilifeform would be using the type of machines previously prepared for mircea_popescu , they are THE most economical in re bux:horsepower ) then it comes to quite a sum ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo , et al : have i missed anything obvious here ?
asciilifeform: right, mircea_popescu even already commissioned 3, they are right here
asciilifeform: let's suppose for gedankenexperiment that i could borrow mircea_popescu's nazi submarine and ship'em in duty-free. that still leaves 12*1600 == 19200 heathenbuxxorz for basic vps ( rented, presumably , to heathens, who will somehow agree to part with coin? but this is separate thread..)
asciilifeform: now the cost of filling 12 rack slots with as much cpu horse as they can hold, (using asciilifeform's method, rather than mircea_popescu's, if not clear from context) would be such : 32 cores of opteron @ 3GHz, 256GB ram, 1TB durable ssd, comes to 1600 per 1U machine; no more than 4 machines can travel in a cargo carried by a 1300 two-way ticket
shinohai: morning mircea_popescu, mod6
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:47 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:01 mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: .2 + (2 + 6/2) / 8.268 = 0.8047411707789065
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8270.0, vol: 14372.29401855 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8267.5, vol: 65591.17821759 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8275.9, vol: 10439.5034439 | Volume-weighted last average: 8268.86746123
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu is appears to be increasingly tired of propping up on his own.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: more generally : i do not perceive any sort of future for the republic without an isp.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:48 mircea_popescu: i did try throughout, up to and including yesterday, to somehow compensate for the various issues, but eventually the time comes for the observation that the situation you created for yourself there is not actually tenable. spend your remaining cash on your plane ticket out, we're putting an end here to this well meaning but ultimately ineffectual effort.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 15:18 asciilifeform: iirc idea was , when originally proposed by mircea_popescu , for it to be +ev in ~year
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not opposed to taking alfdebt in favor of mircea_popescu debt minding that the mircea_popescu debt comes first unless alf makes other arrangements with mircea_popescu. And also that a substantial part of the +EV involves BingoBoingo does things alf will find very disgusting to a few boxes in order to sell shared hosting. Think of how alf directed venture with PCengines 8 to the 1U as opposed to VPS for small
asciilifeform: i'ma back tomorrow; still in the process of last iteration of 'do what mircea_popescu told'
asciilifeform: iirc idea was , when originally proposed by mircea_popescu , for it to be +ev in ~year ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might you consider selling ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Understood. The closest thing to rescuing the situation here is appearing to be take on substantially more debt from mircea_popescu while working with the local mud, and insufficient assurance the mud can be made baked into bricks. I am willing to take on the debt, but I am now grossly aware I was unprepared intellectually and otherwise. I also see no reason for mircea_popescu to bleed cash feeding Uruguayos when the
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> eam of reports from there, and would have already been late in the 2nd week. << I came to realize the grave neglect in not doing this exercise upon arrival rather early in the day's exercise.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ct16g3r186dm specifically. it's not simply "ddr 3". it's actually 1866, these things matter. << Lists updated headed out the door in a few minutes http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/bbisp-shopping-and-shops-list-for-exploring/
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> leaving aside we don't even know what disks we're buying. eg, the rosewill chassis only usefully takes 3.5 inch ones. << 2.5 to 3.5 shims are on the list
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: c13
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BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6TNbp/?raw=true The whole email thread from this morning through their suggesting desktop power supplies to go with rackmount cases to my polite suggestion the numbers and timeline aren't acceptable. Fuck me, and fuck these monkeys with their SHHHH SHHH sounds. Fucking monkeys just have turned operation "Make BingoBoingo rich 2018" into a clusterfuck by entertaining the "Let's
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> get the everloving fuck out of this planed, what the fuck is this. << It's seeming a lot like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779313 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre their derpy tax for mounts ? << Before the 22% VAT no less
ben_vulpes: exactly the "get another car" thing mircea_popescu described