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phf: oh i remembered what the flags are http://glyf.org/h/b-a?no-spacing&nick=asciilifeform
phf: have newer version that has fancy features, but i couldn't really roll it out for myself, since "download logs over http from kako's server" is not best strategy
phf: there are flags that it takes that disables the behavior, and yeah "large chunks of space" is annoying and log would've been better if i wanted to go and fix it
asciilifeform: i'd at least make the white intervals logarithmic
phf: asciilifeform: it's an older version that i wrote a while ago and been using for reading
asciilifeform: phf: i see b-a log with buncha white space
phf: the reader is idiosyncratic, so i'll have to make it more palatable for general consumption
phf: trinque: yes! that would be handy. i just audited that postgresql common lisp driver (not the popular one, but the pure network pg one)
mircea_popescu: but for the other thing, and more important i guess : it's strictly impossible by now to distinguish teenager daughter from wife in a film. not only because the fucking actresses represented as sexually powerful are so fucking neotenuous it's uncanny ; but also because of the retarded habit of giving women the same age all the fucking roles. they're all "29" ; and finally because fucking hell family relations in anglosphere...
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the enviroderps don't even realise just how tediously insufferable their propaganda is, i suspect. fucking jehova witnesses already.
mircea_popescu: so i tried to watch "the ballad of jack and rose".
trinque: phf: if you've got a log viewer nearly complete, do you want a postgresql db connection from me for it? I'll be collecting logs with the new deedbot.
shinohai: I last looked at logs this morning, so oh well.
asciilifeform: shinohai must be reading a very different log than i
shinohai: You aren't pete_dushenski. It's witch-hunt city over there and I want no part of it.
pete_dushenski: i will say that it's on the quiet side in #trilema atm, but after glancing at the #b-a logs for 15 seconds, the noise gave me such a headache that i quickly forgave the selective speech and appreciated the tranquility here. i doubt i'm alone in this either.
phf: asciilifeform: you keep saying "this like spanish revolution" but i don't think anyone actually groks what that means, because so far #b-a is like a sociological study of mutiny
asciilifeform: taiwan is a dr.mengele creation of usg, just as, e.g., israel, and i can't fathom how it could outlast the creator
mircea_popescu: in line with what appears to be the xi policy. he's gutted the bureaucracy, which obviously pissed off all the wanna-be 14%, as what he aims is very much in line with the mp definition of government ("may exist for as long as i don't see it")
mircea_popescu: by and large from what i'm seeing china's plan is to simply use its gravitational pull.
asciilifeform: i used to work with a fella from there
mircea_popescu: anyway, afaik i'm one of the very few if not the only irc user that actually only uses one channel - and even i use two these days, this and #eulora
mircea_popescu: hopefully facebook isn't actually next, woe unto me i'll be assaulted by the internet's entire firehose.
mircea_popescu: a. s'okay, i only read one so won't likely be confused.
PeterL: well, in #b-a not long ago I said somebody was going to reply in the wrong chan, confuse everybody, couple hours later asciilifeform does
mircea_popescu: yes you. "see, x" generally implies a "i believe y", not clear what that y'd be here.
mircea_popescu: i dun see teh problem, mike_c can run his thing whatever way he likes.
asciilifeform: fwiw i believe that he did the things he said he did.
PeterL: I have not yet been convinced there is a need to leave it
trinque: if they're RSS can jam in the old deedbot- for now; if not I'll have to write something for the new one.
PeterL: I meant for S.MPOE trades etc
pete_dushenski: i think it'd be sweet to have a repository for viewing the latter
shinohai: I wanted something a little nicer to look at that listed solely trb nodes. I know it is on wiki but ...
shinohai: hey pete_dushenski i havent done much to it unfortunately, just still running my vanilla trb node
mircea_popescu: i'd say about a day ?
BingoBoingo: Ah, I forget you two are neighbors
trinque: one sec and I'll re-register his nick so he'll stay voiced
mircea_popescu: i know i've more than once, while sitting by idly watching unbridled tits bounce, considered adding some cogs.
phf: it could make for a nice backup in a joey hess style household. guy lives off the grid, hacks by candlelight with his low power netbook, sometimes "i'll be out for the next few days, it's been gray out, so not enough juice in batteries", etc.
mircea_popescu: more than that even. i've personally climbed the stairwell going from valley of kings over the mountain into the queen's. took a few hours, but it's a good 150-200meters tall. that's a good 30-40 kwh
mircea_popescu: eh, derps take the time to explain why they named their thing whatever they named it, but i see no equations anywhere. pass.
mircea_popescu: i don't get the "we use no consumables" claim if it uses springs. what are the springs ?
asciilifeform: i thought the main diff was that the real brainz of the nazi machine got cia jobs
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the curious student of political history, i'd gladly read a piece explaining the differences between the "denazification" as carried out by the allied control council from 1946 onwards ; and the various internal troubles of the eastern socialist party, whether you pick dekulakization, or de-trotskyfication, or great leap forward or w/e.
mircea_popescu: i c!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I may need one of those weathervanes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have nfi. i hope somebody gets some use out of it, because ftr i don't, i find it == as interesting as the sports crud.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> urgh, i scroll between two chans, and one is full of american election and the other - ThickAsThieves << I think something about the details of the process contains electrolytes mircea_popescu needs to mix up his hatorade
mircea_popescu: i am impressed with your negotiatiory skillz.
asciilifeform: y'know, as a boy, i was playing with other boyz in the yard and mentioned съезд кпсс , and they laughed. i learned lesson - for life. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is the wasp pretense. to my eyes a direct equivalent to nixon's delusioned in place "silent electorate". i don't think it ever held any water.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall the specifics there, but wasn't it the case that leader of gop house sold out to obama, and for cheap, the gop trioed to throw him out, and failed, guy came back even to ensure his chosen successor stays ?
PeterL: yeah, the people making these rules can do whatever they want, but I assume there are some reasonable people mixed in with the crazies who would stop such things
mircea_popescu: phf no idea what opposition would be. lemme dig up the comment i guess.
asciilifeform: phf: the last thing i recall TaT doing is, mircea_popescu offered him a co-authorship on something or other, and TaT refused because afraid of gassing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno they were questionable, he said i dun recall what on trilema, i asked him quo warranto, he made himself scarce.
asciilifeform: lives, iirc, under the heel of his wife (i could be mistaken, but did get this impression from the 4-5 h we spent together) ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: i actually met TaT in meatspace, at mircea_popescu's c2. we sat in the airport together in the end. i got the impression that he was 'ok guy' but somewhat lacked... courage.
phf: guy come strutting after his opponent leaves and starts talking tough? i don't know him, but that just spells loser ☟︎
PeterL: I wonder who else will return?
asciilifeform: i find it odd that he returns immediately when mircea_popescu leaves
asciilifeform: urgh, i scroll between two chans, and one is full of american election and the other - ThickAsThieves
BingoBoingo: I don't keep track because of how many rules typically change just to smooth things out. See Thomson's "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail"
mircea_popescu: but i mean, what was changed specifically ?
PeterL: I don't see how the specific rules helped Trump
danielpbarron: will have to fix that, later; i gtg for now
danielpbarron: i guess it doesn't like me naming it assassin-0
mircea_popescu: ftr if i click the pic i get a "page not found". is this intentional ?
mircea_popescu: i've like... totally lost contact with teh kids today. I AM OLD NOW
danielpbarron: it may have happened but I haven't heard of it
danielpbarron: if i was that much of a drinker
danielpbarron: i could just bring my own or get it free from friends
danielpbarron: i wouldn't know, I never got a vip pass because who cares anyway
danielpbarron: maxint i guess, or free
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean frothwater/selzer ; i mean the genuine article)
PeterL: I suppose detail will go up on trilema at some point?
mircea_popescu: i can readily understand that fiatism has been for all and sundry the unique way of life, since "forever" ; i can see how the shit is well ensconced and difficult to wash off. nevertheless, loyalty to a group, as opposed to the individual, is still socialism, as much so as either GOP or NSDAP ever were. preserve that and you preserve it all.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no place in the future, or among civilised people, for this "hi i r zuckerberg and i ~created~ facebook" thing. i can see how it continues the "oh, mp is raining money, let me not get in his way" thing from before, but consistency in poltroonism does not enact poltroonism as an acceptable life philosophy.
mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on the contrary, i view further involvement with the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable thing to do altogether. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'For open source code, you read the code, line by line, verify that it is in fact safe to run. You then issue a PGP-signed certificate which pretty much says "I the X of Y have reviewed the below code and judged it safe in accordance with Z".'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do not have parrots, but most days now I do have titmice flutting about outside
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/Q8Oofs3.jpg << 'bitcoin atm'. first time i ever even saw such a thing.
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/XSjyCZm.jpg << sakuras in bloom, from rowboat, partial pet on right hand.
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/vqBBXFm.jpg << the one on my hdd. i still have not identified the species.
asciilifeform: fuckdamnit i can almost TASTE these parrots.
assbot: I have a deram ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLtRT2 )
asciilifeform: http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/52779/I << dug out of vintage trilema. immortal.
BingoBoingo: crap I forgot a link
BingoBoingo: hearing this I am disappointed more is not made of the innuendo possible from playing with the idea of big tools
jurov: lmao i saw even one proclaimed "a lumberjack" cuz of the axe
BingoBoingo: I'm just kind of surprised this sort of overtooling isn't a big thing in bear pin up art.
asciilifeform: 'The benefits he has derived from his collegiate experience have been strictly formal, and of no further substance.' << i thought mircea_popescu knew that the usaschwitz 'college racket' has ~0 to do with education, but rather is the only usg-permitted iq test (roughly what grade school was once used for)
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall a dark age jvm backend for gcc, perhaps it turned into this.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes et al: believe, if i had another, tastier antidote, i would say. but until then, we will drink this castor.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's a misery, i must warn.
asciilifeform: because items like 'no overflows, fuck off', 'standard and rationale books', 'i can compile this by hand', or 'i can saw the binary open in ida and it is pretty clear what chunk of asm corresponds to what line of src' are NOT NEGOTIABLE.
asciilifeform: i've been struggling with my gag reflex for > year now, the language is pascal-ugly. but ~there is no sane alternative~ known.
asciilifeform: (the other choice, if trying to escape from ada, is to ditch the c-machine silicon, but i just checked my sofa cushion and still did not find a spare $10m in it with which to do this.)
asciilifeform: (i considered and rejected ml and haskell for this reason. go and explain how they work! can spend a fucking career on that. ick)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i would rather feed racoon with own meat.