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BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Apologies for the startling
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it's entirely possible he didn't know.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:30 mircea_popescu: spyked is evidently trying, hence feedbot, but evidently having trouble reconciling saeculum, which i'm going to let stand as such on the grounds that he's new -- even though experience shows that as a dubious idea [for all the eg one could possibly need witness how asciilifeform 's still in the swamp, so many years later].
mod6: Hola mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: congrats diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 15:19 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886075 -> on additional digging, static lib apparently does have libnameinit so yest I was looking for the wrong thing
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.05780660 << S.MG rental server
BingoBoingo: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.05780660 S.MG rental server
a111: Logged on 2019-01-08 17:10 mircea_popescu: (that article, btw, remarkable because i told ro bezos "Si, draga Varanule, nu-i clar ca mai ai cinci ani" ie, "dear reptile, it's not clear you have five years left" in 2012 -- by 2014 he was in jail. because hey, mp is right now and again accidentally which is to say 1024/1024 occurences on his blog etc etc)
asciilifeform: hrm, could've sworn there was a moar recent mircea_popescu thread re same
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 17:48 asciilifeform: ( re 'how many witnesses', see diana_coman's article, it reviews the necessary maffs, i.e. P(yer prime aint a prime and you die) == (1/4)^n, where n is # of witness )
asciilifeform: and ftr i'm surely doomed to run into diana_coman's puzzler myself, when i go to write a threaded proggy (e.g. adaized trb) ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plz dun see the orig statement as ' asciilifeform presumes that diana_coman is dummkopf and problem is trivial, asciilifeform can do it with 1 hand '. i simply dun like to see people sitting stuck, is all.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 16:49 asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you're utterly stumped, i can allocate some cycles to the problem tomorrow -- with mircea_popescu's permission ( i swore to him that i will not embroil meself in matters euloric , recall )
asciilifeform: ( re 'how many witnesses', see diana_coman's article, it reviews the necessary maffs, i.e. P(yer prime aint a prime and you die) == (1/4)^n, where n is # of witness ) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: take for example diana_coman's system , where 16 witnesses are used. ( i'd use moar, but let's go with the example. ) so if we're generating 2048b primes (for 4096b rsa mod), per ch.14b timings on asciilifeform's iron this costs ~2.9s per modexp, and thereby ~93sec per m-r procedure.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly: diana_coman , were you ( or anyone else... ) ever able to derive a bound for 's' in m-r ? ( http://ossasepia.com/2017/12/28/eucrypt-chapter-3-miller-rabin-implementation/#selection-125.2765-125.2766 )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you're utterly stumped, i can allocate some cycles to the problem tomorrow -- with mircea_popescu's permission ( i swore to him that i will not embroil meself in matters euloric , recall ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what i meant was, my proggy has no elaborator, and yours -- has, so i am not qualified to say 'here's how to fix elaborator in static lib' of yet.
asciilifeform: but i cannot yet say conclusively. diana_coman is at the bleeding edge of this q.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if your 'main' is a c/cpp proggy , you gotta trigger the elaborator 'by hand', regardless of which type of lib your ada coad is in, afaik.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 14:14 diana_coman: my trajectory in hitting walls on this was precisely that: make it static -> surprise, no adainit exported/included, checked the .a file and everything, went nuts; make it dynamic -> ugh, need -lgnat and whatnot; rtfm again and again, there is this calo-magar
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc gcd(0,0) is permitted in your sys also
asciilifeform: diana_coman: indeed gcd aint ever legitimately 0.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: correct. but i also did not 'ha! let's make it eggog cuz nobody did' ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: near as i can tell, nobody ever does tho
asciilifeform: diana_coman: correct
asciilifeform: diana_coman ( and mircea_popescu , when he wakes up ) -- do you have a position on http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2963#selection-2087.0-2115.72 ?
asciilifeform: ^ mircea_popescu , diana_coman , et al ^
Mocky: mircea_popescu sure, no problem. I'll fire it up tomorrow, make sure I'm good to go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm what made you remember that d00d existed ?
asciilifeform: this means not only slightly slower gcd than the draft posted earlier (it'll need a mux) but it also means that e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch14/fz_qshft__adb.htm#111_14 was in fact leaking, albeit undetectable on the tests given in ch14, and will need mandatory HaveBarrelShifter = 0 (i.e. 5% or so penalty)
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says -- i'll believe
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does it work in that 'it worx, and 7 others previously barfed' or 'it was 1st i happened to try and it seems to work' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read the link from earlier, made sense
asciilifeform: there are so many and I'm only one << i admit that i'm a little curious why diana_coman & mircea_popescu dun enlist Mocky to carry on client dev -- but it's not my biz , if they dun feel like going into subj, i won't cry
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 15:36 asciilifeform: last night i re-read diana_coman's piece on m-r , it is interesting just how much sweat diana_coman had to put in simply on account of koch gnarl
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what is 'jam' ?
ave1: diana_coman, look into https://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/ada/gnat/html/gnat_ugn_5.html#SEC73
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 17:06 mircea_popescu: "But the type conversion rules for pointers are not so easily duped; there are no "classwide pointers" (thought perhaps life would be different if there were!). " << motherfucker on a stick, i want "classwide pointers" ie, "this door ambiguously links to any of the mcdonalds not any specific one" as i want to wake up to being assfucked by chtulhu.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i suspect 'greybeard'. prolly he also had a 200kloc (or 2e6...) that had to be dealt with as-is, pointerola & all.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 23:38 asciilifeform: typical, http://adagin.blogspot.com/2013/12/ada-2005-access-types-part-i.html , lively : type Hooker_Array is array (Positive range <>) of Hooker_Class_Ptr; procedure Violate_Bodies (x : Hooker_Array); ... 'We want to track all our victims, presumably in some sort of set or container, so that we might disinter them later as needed. Similarly, we might also want to do strange, awful things with the dead bodies of the hookers.'
asciilifeform has not studied mircea_popescu's proggy, of yet, doesn't dare to comment in detail
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect that even if you get the thing to properly link, you will discover new headaches on acct of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885177 . really imho proggy that has ada tasks oughta have ada main , and (if must) call static cpp turdola, not vice-versa ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 15:10 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886065 << hmm diana_coman , what piece in your proggy actually uses elaboration ? ( is it the tasking ? )
asciilifeform: last night i re-read diana_coman's piece on m-r , it is interesting just how much sweat diana_coman had to put in simply on account of koch gnarl ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/i-think-it-might-be-the-case-im-becoming-pretentious/#comment-127374
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 14:07 diana_coman: can't make it static because then it doesn't link in the adainit, adafinal
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 14:08 diana_coman: (those are needed to do the elaboration in ada so can't do without them either)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886065 << hmm diana_coman , what piece in your proggy actually uses elaboration ? ( is it the tasking ? ) ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, no, it's an ada thing, nothing to do with cpp precisely
lobbes: trinque: I agree that I could use a more substantive grasp on the script as a whole (and will indeed study moar), however I want to say I'm at least understanding the bit in "create_user.sh" where it calls useradd and passwd, and then adds the $USER to etc/sudoers. I'm just missing -why- the user/password I set through useradd/passwd wasn't working when trying to login. Probably something elementary
mod6: Thanks mircea_popescu, I appreciate that.
asciilifeform: mod6: at the risk of sounding like mircea_popescu in earlier thread -- why is this a mega-project ? i reground ffa to keccak in about 10minute (after getting hold of a working keccak-vtron)
asciilifeform: tho not only ( also talked to ben_vulpes and other folx who tuned in prior to asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: ( i find what e.g. mircea_popescu said in 2014 , interesting, but not xyzputin3333 )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i not only gotta write proggy, but to make sure that it makes sense to people
asciilifeform: let's spell out the algo. 1. reg := read_from_fg(2048bits). 2. l = gcd(reg, primorial) 3. if l != 1, goto 1 4. mr = m-r(reg, shots) 5. if mr != true, goto 1. 6. reg is probabilistically-prime .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu diana_coman et al ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, ~whole thing is diagrams
mircea_popescu: let's then put the more useful part in teh archive hopper : https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_burroughsBkComputerSystemOrganizationTheB5700B6700_10821314/Organick_Computer_System_Organization_The_B5700_B6700_Series_1973_djvu.txt
a111: Logged on 2019-01-08 17:26 mircea_popescu: every night spent in the cold to "save fuel" by whole neighbourhoods, the inaccessible meat or bananas or whatever -- ALL OF IT!!! went into one "humongous" pile of "the people's wealth" that was, looking in own pockets, not retrospectively that worth the mention ?
asciilifeform: ( and for all i know, ro actually involved moar 'turkeydollar', as by mircea_popescu's and other accts was 'tighter ship' ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was that the ro berezovsky or who
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure most of their dough comes from bezos
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they have this custom, iirc you can donate 1 orcbuck and still show up on 'list of donor'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo are these tynisha ysais relatives ? any bits missing ? << Apparently they are just dead sex workers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja reply 'perfect, you look exactly like goat
asciilifeform: ( i'll observe, mircea_popescu's ship has diesels, rather than oars, last i knew )
asciilifeform upturned a stack of papers with elbow last night, a mircea_popescu card came flying out
a111: Logged on 2019-01-08 00:43 mircea_popescu: even the handcuffs are now zip ties.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:12 mircea_popescu: stipendi peccatus mors est.
asciilifeform: a:'hey mircea_popescu , i saw kangaroo in a zoo once' m:'yer delusional , there aint no such animal, fuckin' brits lied about it' a:'looked quite like the drawing' m:'destructive fantasy, and at terrible cost, you saw mutilated donkey' a:'...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was in re hypothetical 'what if republic worked as closed sys'
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 20:24 asciilifeform: the tailor who made mircea_popescu's shirt is also not (afaik) in wot yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly, all i know re subj is 3-4 yrs old
a111: Logged on 2018-11-25 06:49 mircea_popescu: oh, and in other lulz http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/ : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_Extremism_Project
a111: Logged on 2016-09-23 23:22 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, http://www.trackingterrorism.org/search/apachesolr_search/bitcoin
a111: Logged on 2014-07-30 13:57 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-08 00:13 mircea_popescu: maybe i'm naive, but i'm satisfied with the extant methods as they stand.
asciilifeform: ( for aficionados of earlier subj -- http://xahlee.info/kbd/itac_mouse-trak_trackball.html compares a coupla similars )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 19:16 mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, there is not the object contemplated in the reich : a thinker so valuable in his thinking, usgistic socialism gives him a berth.
asciilifeform: the tailor who made mircea_popescu's shirt is also not (afaik) in wot yet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho 30y+ ago they still made occasional object ( in mircea_popescu's sense )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are public fools, who spam impotently; and there are other folx, whose existence, however wretched/inca-besotten, is silent . i see the latter as less loathesome. this may be an ideological diff, i have nfi.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-19 23:49 mircea_popescu: the result being that behaviour in the walrus gif
a111: Logged on 2018-12-31 03:56 mircea_popescu: Mocky if this may help you take heart, ~everyone's employability is ~epsilon in the us. "jobs" work as alt-welfare conduits, no genuine productivity is present or contemplated.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu is aristotelically determined not to see a diff when it dun suit him, i got nuffin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: diff is that the latter goes around begging, whereas the former has some hole he drilled into fed pipe and drinks from it (while green comes out)
a111: Logged on 2015-04-26 03:24 mircea_popescu: i see nobody wishes to engage the cunt problem. but yes, IT DOES RUN ON PERL.
asciilifeform: m mircea_popescu's olympus they are indistinguishable, the way untrained human cannot distinguish 2 types of wasp necessarily, will think 'wasp'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, pray tell, who is the 'hr mamie' when 1 d00d runs 'owner-operator' co ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the small shitholes, 'mamie' comes mainly in the form of ruinous taxations ( erry d00d is taxes as 'businessman' , ~2x the usual rate )
asciilifeform: i admit it's how i picture the joint where ben_vulpes and trinque live
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik, to the extent anyffin resembling engineering still happens in current usa -- it happens in places like that. four greybeards in a barn.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, also in zoology, but somewhat diff faces, witness http://www.fishcamp.com/photo_gallery.html
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno re 'select'. recall the shithub experiment ? good % of the pages had 'brickface' on'em iirc
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 16:04 mircea_popescu: nes, #Malware #cybersecurity Specialist and Author at @Hacker_Combat * Real-Life News Reader" << https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/958699043579871232/ntdF9E5X.jpg perfectly punchable amir taaki face) and so well... it's either his irl gf or his online fursona, whichever.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, quite; I read it as "tripping over oneself in desperation to signalsignalsignal agreement^n"