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a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 21:56 mircea_popescu: then in the unwarranted assumption that mp actually needs the piddly 1k btc held for bitbet, they tried to use whatever loose assemblage of assets to force mp to recant de facto. which idem backfired spectacularly when mp not only failed to recant as intended, but pissed with
a large arch on the whole proposition, and cut out with hot irons anything that may even remotely resemble.
mats: mircea_popescu: nm, off to see
a show
mircea_popescu: for the record : during the duration of that account, you deposited 20.02 btc, and withdrew : 670.37 btc. "your" btc is
a misnomer at best.
mircea_popescu: then in the unwarranted assumption that mp actually needs the piddly 1k btc held for bitbet, they tried to use whatever loose assemblage of assets to force mp to recant de facto. which idem backfired spectacularly when mp not only failed to recant as intended, but pissed with
a large arch on the whole proposition, and cut out with hot irons anything that may even remotely resemble.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform look at the events. in the unwarranted assumption that mp will be impressed with
a show of miner strength, they proceeded to mess with bitbet payments. this backfired spectacularly when mp was not only not impressed, but actually went public with it, live.
kakobrekla: hi. my mpex account has been inaccessible roughly since the time of the final bbet settlement -
a bug or
a feature?
trinque: she looks like she wants to be
a dystopian manga character
shinohai: Gavin has been rather quite for
a few days.
mircea_popescu: take my advice boys and girls : have soup at least 4-5 times
a week.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, damn soup is
a wonderful invention.
dignork: Thanks BingoBoingo glad to see you guys, but I'm just lurking after
a long time out, haven't read the logs yet.
mircea_popescu: that also ; though wikipedia does have
a buggy, unspecified, half-baked wot implementation
mircea_popescu: in the parts where it actually does something, what it does is collect derpy dribbles on irrelevant topics. yeah, it's the first place to have
a discussion of the nth episode of the mth reboot of some tired us franchise.
mircea_popescu: it'd be interesting as
a wikipedia-conversion-to-sanity project, but it'd be predicated on the project ditching all the undesirables barnacled to it. and seeing that the whole thing is mostly barnacle by mass, i dun see it happening.
hanbot: Pity they don't have
a bio article.
mats: whole thing is ripe for 0days, i expect, half
a dozen incompatible ipc mechanisms loosely scattered across multiple layers
mats: xpc seems like it has
a lot of bugs
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: shithouse has
a certain...aesthetic.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: that's more
a baseline requirement
mircea_popescu: Framedragger was mostly confirming your assumption. yes, if the motherfucker goes to indochina i want
a nigger there hiding in
a bowl of rice ready to suck its pubkey down.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well. i guess the spider could could include
a ipv6 address crawler to populate
a ipv6 address list. but beyond that?
Framedragger is
a non-bullshit wwwtronicist, depending on definition. are you folks looking for some clean www read-only interface to
a db? sorry for much interjection
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah. so are we looking for
a wwwtronicist at this spot ?
mircea_popescu: that;s
a call up to you as
a putative eventual lord of teh republic neh ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger many thousands read teh logs ; not everyone speaks, or directly. the republic shades
a much larger area than meets teh eye. nothing wrong with that either.
mircea_popescu: honestly asciilifeform i'd much rather if phuctor held
a table consisting of e,N,comment,pgp_crud1,pgp_crud2,etc. should be indexed by hash of first three fields. should not depend on the trailing fields existing
mircea_popescu: ok im well confused. so jurov : you have
a thing that takes ssh keys, spits them out as e,N,comment lines in
a csv. that right ?
jurov: certificate is usually
a public key + self+signature
Framedragger: oh maybe rfc4880 in itself does not include
a whole certificate bloat thing. ok
Framedragger: i suppose i should search logs for previous discussions? unless anyone wants to give
a more particular summary? spider as many keys from as many hosts running ssh as possible?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the task is 1) create
a spider that connects to all servers/routers/anything that takes
a ssh connection, and asks for key. there's an example given in the logs coupla weeks ago that prolly can be taken verbatim and improved as needed.
Framedragger: "also, anyone want to run
a ssh server key spider ?" << heh, k, i'm up for this, might as well be useful while i brood
☟︎ mircea_popescu: wtf is in that key,
a date, an email,
a name and
a comment
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1001 ways ? at some point it keeps numbers in
a db or no ?
mircea_popescu: well... i guess you make
a tmsr - to - rfc 448866221133massachussetts convertor.
Framedragger: hahah. oh i *bet* that wears you off after
a while!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well they did send children on
a crusade once...
mircea_popescu: alrighty, so it's basically
a durnish laivas that thinks itself the capital [of the world].
Framedragger: can't think of
a specific word - there's
a notion "idiots' ship" - durnių laivas - and also: the whole word "village" (kaimas) has very clear connotations of idiocy, in and of itself, and is used thusly sometimes
Framedragger: it's nice to hear that argentina is
a livable place, then. i enjoyed the pix on trilema fwiw
Framedragger: yeah glasgow is
a student population to
a degree, quite so, and that is indeed nice
mircea_popescu: anyway - yeah i suppose locals are fugly, but then again glasgow gets
a lot of foreign students/tourists.
mircea_popescu: i only make fun of the london people. the scots are
a sort of lithuania :D
Framedragger: so i heard! and tbh i would indeed like that, at least for
a time!
mircea_popescu: you'd love argentina then. ALL they do is stop and chat in the streets ; half hour at
a time, people who don't know each other.
Framedragger: i'm too young to hold
a decent convo, seemingly. owell. glasgow, uk. it's alright. you'll make fun of uk tho, and that's only fair. i'll move at some point
Framedragger: it's too cold, folks don't talk much in streets, though you can bump into an old guy who invites you to chess for
a beer (and by god he needs that beer), he does well, you're in
a very cheap shitty bar and you realize it's now closed and the bar is serving vodka to the regulars who're now around you, sometimes succeeding in discussing something interesting
Framedragger: i don't know what to think of that country. i mean, it's shit, but this is sorta
a priori
Framedragger: lots of nice booty (for real though, not
a joke)
mircea_popescu: there's nothing substantially wrong with freenode. they're
a merchant of faeces infested water, as good as any other merchant of "water" in marakesh.
Framedragger: i suppose there's no true need, but have you considered moving to
a new/different irc network? or can that wait till gossipd saves the internet?
mircea_popescu: it's reasonable to deem they're under
a gag order and actively diddled.
mircea_popescu: you know, they announced
a major bug which looked just like
a nsa plant ; promised
a full investigation to soon follow ; haven't spoken
a word since.
mircea_popescu: this protects from session hijacking, which is
a major concern, especially since freenode's rape-and-gag adventure last year.
mircea_popescu: if you're unvoiced it can voice you, for
a token. that's all it does.
mircea_popescu: (the split occured because he was in [unannounced] vacation while gribble went down ; after not being reacheable for
a few days it looked like we're under attack and
a new bot was made ; and properly this time. then nanotube came back, explained he was taking
a vacation [all this being right around xmas] and well... no hard feelings, but also no readily available cure.)
Framedragger: noob question but by god am i confused. is deedbot's WoT
a different WoT from that which is serviced by gribble?
mircea_popescu: ah yeah. i think we'll need to make
a "min 4gb ram for new boxes" tmsr standard ; so people can run general purpose + trb on them
trinque: need to spin up
a separate box for the node
mircea_popescu: there is
a wiki, would benefit from more maintainer effort.
Framedragger: have you folks considered making
a god damn wiki of all these funky letters, or is that too socialist of an effort? :)
mircea_popescu: kinda why "make
a new html" comes in. there's really no reason to support the bullshit. correct move would have been to make
a new ssh.
mircea_popescu: they've not really had time to do much at any rate ; how long ago did they split,
a year ?
Framedragger: i mean it's
a largish codebase, but in terms of general approach / effort. borne out of anger towards openssl, all that
mircea_popescu: well since phuctor has
a bunch of rsa work already done ; converting github rsa keys to
a usable format and checking them by the same process isn't that tall
a step.
Framedragger: oh i have some of those there.. but they're not important keys anyway. hey that sounds like
a nice project
Framedragger: re. github, just fyi github is less.. hegemonic these days. gitlab is doing well, and that one's
a bit less shit etc. this may sound like
a partial solution to
a fundamental problem, sure, but mh i dunno.
mircea_popescu: in historical terms, "all good things come to the port city", yes. until the port gets
a sand bar.
Framedragger: yeah fair enough, regarding numbers, of course that makes sense. but social networks have this nagging thing of critical mass, sometimes. i know this is
a naive viewpoint, but with e.g. networks which are for meets-and-greets, you know, location-based circles whatnot, it does require some amount of people for there to be more people. then again, maybe there are more smart folk around than i presume. though that's
a dangerous assumption i